Will either of these graphics cards help me at all?

[Space Coward]

I'm using the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ integrated Q45/Q43 Express Chipset that gives me 128MB dedicated VRAM.

Will getting either of these help performance?
EVGA Geforce 8400 - 1GB RAM DDR3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049MPQA4/

MSI GeForce GT610 2GB DDR3
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-PCI-Express-N610GT-MD2GD3-LP/dp/B008AJKIN2/

Before you ask, it's not a laptop-- just a really, REALLY bad desktop.

[yberkurko]

What psu?
Is there pcie x16 slot on motherboard?

[Air]

For video playback and flash games? Probably. For current 3D games? Absolutely not.
Both of those are very low-end graphics cards that will not play current games well. You'll want to go for at least a GTX 750 or a R9 270.

Also, don't judge a graphics card solely on the amount of VRAM.

[Andrius227]

These cards are very outdated. 8400 gt is like 8 years old. Go for a gtx750 ti, it's very powerfull and very cheap.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GeForce-Graphics-GDDR5-PCI-Express/dp/B00ICUGOP0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421248374&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+750+ti

[_I_]

both of those will be wonders over the intel gma on the core2 chipsets

[Andrius227]

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both of those will be wonders over the intel igp on the core2 chipsets

Don't lie. I own a gt610 myself. Total trash, only as powerfull as intel hd 3000 integrated which is also terrible.


And if gtx 750 ti is too expensive for you, look at the cheaper 700 series cards. Like: gt 740, gt 730 or gt 720.

[_I_]

the intel gma series is worse than a 3year old coloring on the screen when it comes to gaming
gt610 and 8600 can atleast handle 10year old games

q45 is a gma x4500, not the intel hd igp series

[Andrius227]

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the intel gma series is worse than a 3year old coloring on the screen when it comes to gaming
gt610 and 8600 can atleast handle 10year old games

So you suggest upgrading from total rubbish, to another rubbish ? The 8000 series are so old they probably even cost more because of rarity... The gt610 he linked costs 60$. For the same price he can get a gt720 which is almost 3 times more powerfull and actually capable of modern gaming.

Here: http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-ZT-71202-20L/dp/B00MIYKRC2/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421249689&sr=1-3&keywords=gt+720&pebp=1421249866179&peasin=B00MIYKRC2

Or this one: http://www.amazon.com/Asus-GT720-2GD3-CSM-ASUS-Graphics-Cards/dp/B00MSOG762/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421249900&sr=1-1&keywords=gt+720&pebp=1421249940548&peasin=B00MSOG762

[_I_]

those are cheap, if he has one or can get one for free, use it

paying for one is a waste

i agree if he is going to spend money on a gpu, get a r7 or gt x40+ card
or r9 to gtx card
depending on his budget


if on a very small budget
PowerColor 5450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131338
its weak, but miles ahead of the intel igp
and $33 shipped with $15 rebate

got one a long time ago for free after rebate, $20/20rebate
was capable of games at 720p at lowest settings
unreal 2k4 ran great on it, and it was great for movies/videos

[Space Coward]

Quick note... you guys are acting like I can't run YouTube or something.

This thing's ALMOST able to run Warframe on the lowest options. It runs KF on normal graphics, 800x600 (60FPS plus playable on what I call "bad maps"), Medium on Red Alert 3... really, the issues only come in around 2012+ games.

The real reason I want it is support for MSAA+OpenGL. I'm reading through, though, and there are a few cards I think I'd take over the one I'd picked out. Thanks for saving me from a bad purchase.

[upcoast]

Take the $35-$60 and go buy a used card you'll be miles ahead of GT 610 and 8400gs.

6870, GTX560ti go for $40-50 used, personally I'd aim for an HD6950 2GB used cheapo card if your psu is remotely good enough.

8400,5450 and 610 are all flash game multimedia cards don't get suckered.