Decent Rig and every Game constantly stutters, and drops frames/MOBO processor swamp

[Bastid]

The jist of it. I had an AMD build and every game I own worked fine. no frame drops, no stuttering at all on Ultra Settings. Also was able to watch youtube videos in 1080p, and able to watch 2 twitch streams at the same time on source quality (better then High) with no problems.

Then I switched over to an intel build, same games, same youtube videos same twitch streams, but NOW, You tube videos had to be watched in 780p some times lower with some stuttering, and no way possible to watch two twitch streams at the same time on source with out constant stuttering and FPS drops. I only can watch 1 stream at a time on high or medium quality now and the stream wil still stutter a little bit. Games I own are now unplayable do to all the stuttering and FPS drops. I been dealing with constant tweaking for 3 weeks, so I am prettysure I tried every possible fix out there. But just in case.

AMD rig was:

2 ASUS 22 inch monitors ( 60 Hertz per allows 1920x 1080 gameplay)
Win 8.1 pro 64 bit
OLD - Giggabyte 970 Mobo (Board stopped working)
OLD - Processor AMD X Vishera 8350 4.0Ghz (Still Works)
GTX 970 gcard
32 gigs of RAM
1000 watt EVGA power supply
Creative Soundblaster ZX sound card (removed after build to test sound stuttering)
550 gig SSD (Drive error so removed before build)
2 Tb HDD

The "NEW" intel rig:

2 ASUS 22 inch monitors (60 Hertz per allows 1920x1080 gameplay)
Win 8.1 pro 64 bit
NEW - MSI H97 Gaming 3 Mobo
NEW - Intel (R) Core(TM) i7-4790K Processor 4.0Ghz
GTX 970
32 gigs of RAM
1000 watt EVGA power supply
Creative Soundblaster ZX sound card removed for testing Now on onboard sound
550 gig SSD replaced with 1 Tb HDD
2 Tb HDD

Troubleshoot:
Re-installed Win 8.1 pro 64 bit several times
Re-installed ALL latest drives several times
Re-installed Bridge drives for intel several times
Re-installed All games several times
Re-Installed Flash player for the videos with latest drives several times
Ran Dxdiag several times to look for errors ( Didn't find any)
Optimize, and defragged HDD's Several times
Ran the Nvidia game optimizer several times
Ran the Nvidia 3D excelator to make games a priorty several times
Changed Advance System Settings for best performance over Let windows choose what best for my computer
Checked Device Manager for any yellow " ! " found none

Now I am waiting on some NEW 4x8 gig memory sticks that I ordered. To see if that fixes these ongoing issues.

[Gen X]

Waste of money

Anyways your probably throttling

[Bastid]

I am going to try and answer all latest post at once:

Spooky and CJ: I set it to factory default. and two sticks of RAM. It is still the same symptoms. Last week I was at Bios 1.7 version. From that link I see I am at 1.8 version now. I will Flash the bios again to update it after my Defrag and run a virus scan. And as far as Killer goes, I am not fond of it, I tried to uninstall and not use. When I did, I lost my connection. So I reinstalled it and got my connection back.

Azza: I will check that info again. Since I will be at 1.8 BIOS version that stuff will most likely need updates aswell.

Bad Motha: Yep I don't trust the cd updates will go through and see what I need Spooky suggested it, there may be new ones, since last I checked.

Munithe EXT: already tested them I have MSI Afterburner and CPU-Z to monitor it. I am on the Corsair H100i Liquid cooler. At idle 25 - 40 degrees celcius. Under load 45-65 degrees celcius.

The Last Partisan: Not really a waste of money for me, I just want things to work like they should, after SPENDING that money. Looks like it might be throttling and the purpose is trying to fix it.

Zoombielord Ativan: There just maybe Gigabyte leftovers. I cleaned the Registry, so if there was, that might had got rid of some things, and there is no other way to check to make sure as far as I know. I got Sniper G.Skills which is compatible with my i7 The part number is F3-1600C9Q-32GSR. Meaning 1600 DDR3 4x 8 gigs. The sticks do show up on G Skills website as it being compatible with the H97 Gaming 3.

adding this older post as a possibility:
10upN2Down: I am on win 8.1 64 bit. I do not have MS Firewall. What options where they. I can check in my firewall?

[[☥] - CJ -]

Yeah, for Killer uninstall it and just use the stand alone Driver install so you dont have to deal with the Network Manager crap which may cause problems.

Other than the motherboard itself being a possible issue, or the Killer Network Manager being the problem, i'm out of ideas.

[Bastid]

CJ Killer might be a possibility, unfortunly under the driver selection here under the win 8.1 64bit tab

http://us.msi.com/support/mb/H97-GAMING-3.html#down-driver&Win8.1 64

There is no other LAN then Killer, unless I am missing something, which is a huge possibilty. There is Killer Driver, but it is still Killer. If that is it it should be renamed as standalone LAN, or something. I will try it to test it. Probably going to have to Flash it, it comes as a .zip


This info can also be what I have installed already. Like I mention I did remove Killer, and I instantly lost connection. So I had to reinstall it, to get my connection back.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Killer Network Driver (driver only) is the one i'm talking about

It only has the driver to make your internet work, it doesnt include the network manager crap which may block some internet data.

But yes sadly, that board only has a Killer NIC, not an Intel.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's not a matter of trusting the Driver CDs, but they will be quite old. Even when buying a newer motherboard right now, the discs will pretty much all contain same data from back whenever the board was originally released. The only real reason to use them is for Network Driver so u can get online. As that doesn't really matter since u can just update that driver later. Getting your fresh OS online and starting doing the Windows Updates is what's important. Then go get all the latest Drivers u'll need.

Yea use the Killer (Driver Only) as that is what MSI H97 Gaming 3 MB uses (Killer E2200)
But when u use (Driver Only) the driver need to be installed manually. If you do not understand how to do that via Device Manager, then get the full Killer Network installer suite. Then after running that install I think u can still choose not to install certain extras. Driver only would be preferred, less extra garbage and you can make whatever changes u need to the Adapter via the Adapter's Properties

[Bastid]

Bad-Motha: I can Flash the .zip(s) and run them through the BIOS. I have all of the KIller Network installed now. It is listed in my Programs and Features as; "Qualcomm Atheros Killer Performance Suite." But once I uninstall that I get no connection whatsoever.

Do I need some type of connection when updateing through my BIOS? Not to sure, some things I think you do need a connection to the internet.

Can I Flash just the driver, install it through my BIOS, and then go back and remove that, "Qualcomm Atheros Killer Performance Suite?" Will that also remove my Killer Driver that I just flashed and installed manually?

Or I can just uninstall the "Qualcomm Atheros Killer Performance Suite," and the reinstall it, and just check off what I want. Not sure whats the best route to take?

Still waiting on the Defrag, and once it is done, will run a virus scan, then update my BIOS first, since recently my version went from 1.7 to 1.8 in a week. Then update what I can.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If u can check off what u do not need during the Installer, then do that. Just install Driver Only. Cause that's all u'll need. Feel free to try their extra software, sure. But it's more bloatware than anything really.

No real reason to update the BIOS version, unless you have issues or the update addresses some major issues. Most times it is just to update the compatibility for CPUs and Memory. Unless u adding something to the system (like a brand new CPU model) that the BIOS is basically required before installing that.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Always download the files 1st before you start uninstalling the network drivers n such

[Bastid]

Ok going fot it. Defrag is done. Virus Scan done. Made a restore point, Just incase. I am going to run the flash .zip(s) and install through my BIOS.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

U still need to extract the .ROM file from the .ZIP before u can use it.
Then just put .ROM file on Flash Drive and BIOS should be able to see it.
You only need the most recent/latest BIOS update, not multiple ones.

[Bastid]

Sucess! CPU-Z shows I am now on BIOS 1.8 which is the latest. BIOS menu also shows 1.8 Now onto the other .zips

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Ok, double check BIOS settings though. Often times BIOS update may revert BIOS settings back to factory defaults.

[bmac1191]

So does it work?

If not, why don't use remove the 970 and run the intel intergrated? The mobo probably has hdmi out.

You're still using the hard drive right? Have you done a full scan for disk errors?

[Bastid]

bmac: Not yet still working on it. Not familliar with running any build with out a Gcard. I get Gcards to play huge games easier. I also use 2 monitors. The 970 can run 3 monitors, one in HDMI, and the MOBO does have an HDMI out. The gear is there, why not use it? Or fix issues so I can use it?

I did check for errors, optimized, Defaged, did a Registry cleaner, and a virus scan