Steve 2014 年 11 月 11 日 上午 11:42
Help with computer upgrade
I'm planning to get a new CPU.

Here are my specs

AMD R9 280x GPU
8G Ram
600W PSU
AMD Phenom II x6 1090t

I'm planning to get either GTX 980 or 970, along with a AMD FX-9590.


Will I be able to run both GPU and CPU with 600W PSU?

Will I be able to run the AMD FX-9590 along with the AMD R9 280x with 600W PSU?

Will my GPU run Assassins Creed Unity? If yes then I will just upgrade my CPU
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rotNdude 2014 年 11 月 11 日 上午 11:50 
What motherboard do you have? What is the make and model of PSU?
Rumpelcrutchskin 2014 年 11 月 11 日 上午 11:52 
FX-9590 is real fossil compared to new Intel CPU's, takes twice the power, overheats and performance is worse because per-core performance is weak compared to Intel.
I would get i5-4690K or i7-4790K if you want to also do some video/photo editing or stream your games and Z97 motherboard.
Plus the GTX 970 if you can afford it and sell your R9 280X. GTX 970 rivals R9 290X in many games. i5 or i7 and GTX 970 would run fine with 600W PSU.
Can also wait with getting new graphics card at first and see how the R9 280X performance is in AC Unity.
Steve 2014 年 11 月 11 日 上午 11:57 
引用自 rotNdude
What motherboard do you have? What is the make and model of PSU?

I got this info by typing wmic baseboard get product,Manufacturer,version,serialnumber in CMD

Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Product: Crosshair IV Formula
Serial #: MB-1234567890
Version: Rev 1.xx

PSU is ThermalTake Purepower RX 600W

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
FX-9590 is real fossil compared to new Intel CPU's, takes twice the power, overheats and performance is worse because per-core performance is weak compared to Intel.
I would get i5-4690K or i7-4790K if you want to also do some video/photo editing or stream your games and Z97 motherboard.
Plus the GTX 970 if you can afford it and sell your R9 280X. GTX 970 rivals R9 290X in many games. i5 or i7 and GTX 970 would run fine with 600W PSU.
Can also wait with getting new graphics card at first and see how the R9 280X performance is in AC Unity.

Ok. I'll get the i7-4790k, but what about the socket type? Will I be able to take out my Phenom and replace it without doing anything else?
最后由 Steve 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:02
Rumpelcrutchskin 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:03 
引用自 Steve

Ok. I'll get the i7-4790k, but what about the socket type? Will I be able to take out my Phenom and replace it without doing anything else?

No, you would need LGA 1150 socket motherboard, Z97 chipset works best with K-version CPU's.
最后由 Rumpelcrutchskin 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:05
_I_ 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:12 
your 1090t is about as good as the 8350

4690k/4790k would be a huge upgrade

any z97 board will be good
may need a new windows key if your old one cannot be transfered

also make sure your ram is 1.5v, or run it at 1.5v profile on the intel build
Rumpelcrutchskin 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:20 
Also I'm not quite sure if your current motherboard can even run FX-9590, it's AM3 socket and FX-9590 is AM3+, it's not on the motherboard officially supported CPU list but I think some of the motherboard manufactures made it work with BIOS update.
Not quite sure though, maybe someone with better knowledge in AMD CPU's can help.
Also I would not try to run FX-9590 on 600W Thermaltake PSU, it's not exactly high quality PSU.
最后由 Rumpelcrutchskin 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:20
mika 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:27 
Theres only about 3 motherboards that will run your 9590 correctly- 1st is crosshair formula-z which i owned for a while with my 9370, 2nd is sabertooth, 3rd is Asrock extreme 9, and maybe the Asus M5A99X pro but iam not even 100 postive it will run it- those Cpus are like Spaceheaters dude 4 real lol! Get urself a nice Z97 based system ull be much happier, or even a 6 core Fx aka 6300.Thats what I have/

In my opinion the Fx 9590 is an Awsome cpu but it schould cost $140 tops. I really cannot tell the diffrence between my old Fx 9370 and my currect Fx 6300- all my games play exactly the same. Even the A10 7850K 4 core felt the same.I think its time I made the switch to Intel myself. Ive been messing around with AMD for far too long.
最后由 rotNdude 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:39
Steve 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 5:06 
引用自 _I_
your 1090t is about as good as the 8350

4690k/4790k would be a huge upgrade

any z97 board will be good
may need a new windows key if your old one cannot be transfered

also make sure your ram is 1.5v, or run it at 1.5v profile on the intel build


引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
引用自 Steve

Ok. I'll get the i7-4790k, but what about the socket type? Will I be able to take out my Phenom and replace it without doing anything else?

No, you would need LGA 1150 socket motherboard, Z97 chipset works best with K-version CPU's.


What do you guys think? Should I keep my CPU and upgrade to an GTX 970?
Rumpelcrutchskin 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 5:58 
引用自 Steve

What do you guys think? Should I keep my CPU and upgrade to an GTX 970?

Your CPU would bottleneck about 15-20% of GTX 970 performance.
AC Unity has some really beefy requirements, recommended CPU is i7 and minimum requirement i5 or FX-8350, your current CPU is weaker then FX-8350.
Your current graphics card meets the minimum requirements, recommended is GTX 970 or R9 290X.
Steve 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 6:11 
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
引用自 Steve

What do you guys think? Should I keep my CPU and upgrade to an GTX 970?

Your CPU would bottleneck about 15-20% of GTX 970 performance.
AC Unity has some really beefy requirements, recommended CPU is i7 and minimum requirement i5 or FX-8350, your current CPU is weaker then FX-8350.
Your current graphics card meets the minimum requirements, recommended is GTX 970 or R9 290X.

So If I want to upgrade to the GTX 970, I would also need to upgrade my CPU? Will my 600W PSU handle it if I were to run i7 4790k and the GTX 970?
Rumpelcrutchskin 2014 年 11 月 11 日 下午 6:15 
引用自 Steve

So If I want to upgrade to the GTX 970, I would also need to upgrade my CPU? Will my 600W PSU handle it if I were to run i7 4790k and the GTX 970?

Yes, Intel CPUs dont take as much power as AMD CPUs and GTX 970 takes less power then R9 280X.
DeadPhoenix 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 2:48 
do you also have a budget in mind?
Steve 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 4:09 
引用自 DeadPhoenix
do you also have a budget in mind?

Yes, I'd prefer to upgrade either my GPU alone or my CPU and motherboard, since upgrading both cost around $800.
最后由 Steve 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 4:09
_I_ 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 4:36 
are you near a microcenter?
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/

if so, i5 4690k /w z97 board can cost around $300 after tax


ex.
Intel Core i5-4690K = $200
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0434177

MSI Z97 PC Mate $110 - $40 combo = $70 and $10 rebate
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0433127

Subtotal $269.98
Tax $19.65
Grand Total $289.63

upgrading from your r9 280x probably isnt worth it
but you could add a 2nd 280x, but the 600w psu will not be ehough
or maybe get a bigger power supply while at it


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DXzWyc
最后由 _I_ 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 4:49
Rove 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 6:15 
i5 isn't on the recommended specs for ACU. It's i7 or FX 8xxx recommended.

Personally I advise boycott that game till they post realistic specs and maybe even then do.

From the reviews players tend to agree with me. With specs like that it's obviously either still in development, lacking development which will never occur OR gods gift to gamers from on high. Guess what? I'm Atheist...

Here's some examples of what graphics cards are actually capable of if used properly. You know that new resolution, 4K, that has everyone on the internet writing about it? All the people saying "you need a R9 295x2 or a GTX Titan Z to game in 4K?" well maybe if the games are really poorly made.

Lets take the actual cold mathematical facts though:
4K=3840*2160 pixels = 8294400 pixels. 4K @ 60 Hz / FPS = 8294400*60=497664000 pixels per second or 497.664 MP/s (Mega Pixels per second).

Even a cheap $25~ HD 5450 can do 2.6 GP/s which is over 5 times more than needed to run 4K at 60 Hz. Of course that card is not even listed as having 4K support which is funny. Maybe because 4K was not out at the time it was released?

Your R9 280X can do 27.2 GP/s which is over 50 times more than needed simply to run 4K at 60 Hz or 25 times more than needed for 4K at 120 Hz which is something I have not even seen available currently. R9 280X is at least listed as 4K support.

Anyhow if the hardware is used correctly by the program that should certainly bust the myth about 4K requiring $1000+ in graphics cards.

What is high pixel fillrate good for? Multiple monitors, video editing, streaming and maybe more.

Now texel fillrate, that does 3D rendering, that you do need a OK graphics card for. Still your R9 280X is not top but it hasn't been doubled by any other single GPU card out yet though the GTX 780 ti does come close.

GFLOPS are also important as they show GPGPU computing power which can be used for all sorts of things like 3D geometry again for rendering or physics calculations.

Anyways this goes a little off topic but what I'm saying is you've already got a sweet system and so far I'm not that impressed with what I've seen out of the games that are requiring such high requirements like Assassin's Creed Unity. It just doesn't make sense.

Also read the ACU reviews, so far mostly negative.
最后由 Rove 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 12 日 上午 6:21
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