would a core i3 4130 dual core be better then my athlon x4 750k quad core?

[Danny_Daniel]

Both at same clock speeds (3.4Ghz) But I do know that the i3 dual core but has hyper threading and consumes a lot less power and not as hot. I love the Athlon 750k but when the time comes when I feel I want to upgrade I would like to go intel

[Danny_Daniel]

well I would like to see the facts on that statement, and dont put a link for a youtube get me actual real facts and no yahoo answers or tomshardware, I want real facts

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

crappy amd board can start on fire, intels dont

[_I_]

dannydaniel eredeti hozzászólása:

well I would like to see the facts on that statement, and dont put a link for a youtube get me actual real facts and no yahoo answers or tomshardware, I want real facts

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

crappy amd board can start on fire, intels dont

enjoy
http://www.overclock.net/a/database-of-motherboard-vrm-failure-incidents

[Danny_Daniel]

well good thing my motherboard is NOT on there. A cheap motherboard is a cheap motherboard. A good motherboard is a good motherboard

[Rove]

Most or all of those are failures due to overclocking for a long time.

I'd like to point out that Intel's $1000 i7-3960X is on the list, there is just more AMD CPUs cause for overclocking they are cheaper & more common. Most AMD CPUs overclock, most Intel CPUs do not overclock. Thus more silly people fry their VRM on a AMD.

[upcoast]

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

dannydaniel eredeti hozzászólása:

well I would like to see the facts on that statement, and dont put a link for a youtube get me actual real facts and no yahoo answers or tomshardware, I want real facts

enjoy
http://www.overclock.net/a/database-of-motherboard-vrm-failure-incidents

More fear mongering ^.

When anything is used correctly it should not burst into flames ie, using a crappy msi 870- g45 for 3 years and it has not burned my house down, shouldn't it have by your standards.

[_I_]

is it still fear mongering if msi puts warnings on their site not to stress mobos with high wattage cpus?

http://us.msi.com/product/mb/760GMP23_FX.html#hero-overview

http://us.msi.com/pic/image/icons/icon_20111208113417.gif
http://us.msi.com/pic/image/icons/icon_20111208113403.gif

[Rove]

Hey look there are 3 reasons I'd consider a AM3+ motherboard with less than 5 heatsinked VRM or a FM2/FM2+ motherboard with less than 5 unheatsinked VRM.

1. I'm on a extreme budget, won't overclock, have made the choice to get a better CPU and this rather than a better motherboard & crappy CPU & may try to undervolt it to reduce load.

2. I'm building a basic PC with a locked APU & thus can't overclock & high performance or overclocking are not the intended purpose or future.

3. I want to run a amateur server like for games or something with a AMD FX since I can't afford the equivalent Opteron. I will underclock the CPU and undervolt the CPU with the goal of tuning it down to the same speeds and power use as a Opteron just in a AM3+ socket. Could build a whole micro-server for the price of the equivalent Opteron alone. The reason those boards are good for a amateur micro-server is cause they have integrated graphics, crappy but functional enough for a server that only uses CPU.

Example:
Complete amateur 6 core micro-server versus professional Opteron CPU:

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
Biostar A960D+ Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard
PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
G.Skill Phoenix III 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Raidmax Cobra 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HFfHJx
Base Total: $397.60
Promo Discounts: -$5.99
Mail-in Rebates: -$25.00
Total: $366.61
Then you undervolt & underclock the FX 6300 as much as possible and try and get it running super low power, even less than the 6 core Opteron would and your board will probably be very safe. It's a different socket but it's almost exactly the same CPU. The Opteron however cause of the different socket gets better motherboards with access to more memory than a mere 16GB or 32GB like these cheap AM3+ boards would have.

Versus
AMD Opteron 4340 Seoul 3.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache Socket C32 95W Server Processor OS4340WLU6KHKWOF
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113322
$357.99