Is the AMD APU good for gaming?

[David Wolfe]

So I was looking through the website for my local store and spotted the best non-gaming gaming (it isn't advertised as a gaming pc, but according to game debate, it is) computer ever.

Here are the specs:

Processor: AMD A10-6800K
GPU: Radeon HD 8670D Shared graphics
Ram: 8GB (I assume DDR3, doesn't tell me the type of DDR)
OS: Windows 7 Premium (64-bit)
Storage: 2TB HDD
All that for £324.99 ($520)

Now, I mentioned that I tested this PC out at gamedebate, I'm not a huge pc gamer so it'll work fine for me.

From my research at game debate, this pc can run all Call of Duty games recommended req up until Black Ops 2, it meets Black Ops 2 Minimal Requirements however Ghost & Advanced Warfare does NOT work (Fine by me, Call of Duty Ghost was dead anyway...that's why it's called Ghost! Hahahah...the franchise is dead...so...Call of Duty...GHOST....)
What really surprises me is that it can run Battlefield 3 Minimal setting, as well 4 and hardline.
This can run Arma 2: OA and Arma 3.

Now you may all say "BUILD YOUR OWN PC" but I just can't...I don't want to go into details of why but I just can't, and considering the price is below the cost of a PS4 (at least in the UK), this is perfect for me.

What's your opinion on this?

[mika]

I Had both the 6800k and the new 7850k they can play some of the games you mentioned just fine but you need Fast ram 2133mhz or higher 8gb plus you need to cut some visual settings a tad and youll end-up getting a steady 30fps with that system. I was really impressed what the Amd Apus can do considering theres no dedicated graphics card at work!

I say go for it but keep in mind about the ramm, you can always add a better Gpu down the line if you decide you want more power, I love the 7850k id go for that one if you can swing it/ ?

MicroCenter recent;y changed the prices A10 7850K use to be $140 now its $119.99 .....The 6800k use to be $119.99 now its $99.99 grab em while there hot lol/

Your going to have some problems with Arma 2 and 3 I tested part 2 myself this game requires strongs Cpu so Amd struggles a little bit in this area, So dont expect to run it smoothly unless you cut-down the resolution a little bit and run at medium maybe?

[David Wolfe]

MiddleFinger77님이 먼저 게시:

I Had both the 6800k and the new 7850k they can play some of the games you mentioned just fine but you need Fast ram 2133mhz or higher 8gb plus you need to cut some visual settings a tad and youll end-up getting a steady 30fps with that system. I was really impressed what the Amd Apus can do considering theres no dedicated graphics card at work!

I say go for it but keep in mind about the ramm, you can always add a better Gpu down the line if you decide you want more power, I love the 7850k id go for that one if you can swing it/ ?

MicroCenter recent;y changed the prices A10 7850K use to be $140 now its $119.99 .....The 6800k use to be $119.99 now its $99.99 grab em while there hot lol/

Thank you for the info, I may upgrade to a newer ram in the future to 16gb.

MiddleFinger77님이 먼저 게시:

Your going to have some problems with Arma 2 and 3 I tested part 2 myself this game requires strongs Cpu so Amd struggles a little bit in this area, So dont expect to run it smoothly unless you cut-down the resolution a little bit and run at medium maybe?

I really don't mind playing games at low, my 2008 windows xp 1GB integrated graphics can play Arma 2 at 20fps low (480p) (and Arma 2: OA at 12fps low 480p)

My moniter is 1280x1024 and I don't think 720p will be that bad, I can live on 720p.

[_I_]

low - mid settings, itll be ok
higher settigns - no
you can put in a dedicated gpu, but you will still be left with a sub par cpu

for a gaming machine that cheap, you will be better off with a ps4/xbone
then the games will be designed to run good on the hardware

[HATTRİCK HKS CARAMEL® DELUXE]

No, I strongly recommend Intel(R).
Why? For example, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 has got 8 MB of cache rather than an AMD (4 MB).
Furthermore, the GHz computation works better for Intel(R) than AMD.
To be more explicit, Intel(R) gives extra-GHz when needed. Also, Intel(R) instructions are better than AMD's. AMD CPUs are always 70-80% in-use and can't handle many applications simultaneously.

Some of the people use to communicate while playing (Skype(TM)) and so on...

[ZigZach]

- (GFL) Hattrick HttrckCldHKS -님이 먼저 게시:

AMD CPUs are always 70-80% in-use and can't handle many applications simultaneously.

This is blatantly false information. I am using an FX-6200 and regularly have multiple applications and software running. A common combination for me is Arma 3, Mumble, Fraps, a few internet windows open, OBS(while streaming), Steam Client, and possibly music playing, and never have I had my CPU usage go over 70%, it usually sits right around 50%.

Your statement seems intentionally misleading, and I felt obligated to point out that the statement I quoted is not correct in regards to all AMD CPUs.

[HATTRİCK HKS CARAMEL® DELUXE]

i7 4790K should be 20% at most (@ 4.6 GHz).

[ZigZach]

- (GFL) Hattrick HttrckCldHKS -님이 먼저 게시:

i7 4790K should be 20% at most (@ 4.6 GHz).

So that justifies your false information? Also my FX 6200 runs at 3.6 GHz.

[HATTRİCK HKS CARAMEL® DELUXE]

ZigZach님이 먼저 게시:

- (GFL) Hattrick HttrckCldHKS -님이 먼저 게시:

i7 4790K should be 20% at most (@ 4.6 GHz).

So that justifies your false information?

It's my opinion, pal. I'm not Wikipedia. Thread's starter needs opinions, not true facts (which are already available on Wikipedia). What can you say about the price difference between Intel(R) and AMD, Inc.? Is the difference triggered by the location difference between the enterprises (Santa Clara, CA. - Sunnyvale, CA.) and only?

[ZigZach]

- (GFL) Hattrick HttrckCldHKS -님이 먼저 게시:

ZigZach님이 먼저 게시:

So that justifies your false information?

It's my opinion, pal. I'm not Wikipedia. Thread's starter needs opinions, not true facts (which are already available on Wikipedia). What can you say about the price difference between Intel(R) and AMD, Inc.? Is the difference triggered by the location difference between the enterprises (Santa Clara, CA. - Sunnyvale, CA.) and only?

The way you presented your opinion looked as though you were trying to provide facts. When you say "AMD CPUs are always 70-80% in-use and can't handle many applications simultaneously" it infers that you are providing facts. I would also say that facts are more important to the OP as they are asking a question about real performance, not what your opinion of the performance will be.

I'm not sure what your point about price differences and location are, as Santa Clara and Sunnyvale are right next to each other. I would say that price difference between Intel and AMD has more to do with efficiency and branding. Intel has more efficient single core performance, and a very well known name; while AMD is constantly trying to play catch up with the big boy(Intel) on the block.

[HATTRİCK HKS CARAMEL® DELUXE]

OK, I've got everything you've intended, also appreciating your opinion.
What I still have to say as a final conclusion it's comparing AMD ( http://www.cpuid.com/medias/images/a10-oc.png ) with Intel(R) ( http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/zu63s5.png ) highlighting the Cache Levels and Cores/ Threads ratio. Keep in mind that the Intel(R) CPU does not have to be 'X' version (Extream) to have that Intel(R) Smart Cache level and/ or cores/ threads ratio.

[ZigZach]

- (GFL) Hattrick HttrckCldHKS -님이 먼저 게시:

OK, I've got everything you've intended, also appreciating your opinion.
What I still have to say as a final conclusion it's comparing AMD ( http://www.cpuid.com/medias/images/a10-oc.png ) with Intel(R) ( http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/zu63s5.png ) highlighting the Cache Levels and Cores/ Threads ratio. Keep in mind that the Intel(R) CPU does not have to 'X' version (Extream) to have that Intel(R) Smart Cache level and/ or cores/ threads ratio.

Ok, I'm not sure if you intend those links for me, but regardless I'm not trying to argue that AMD is better than Intel or vice versa, simply that your statement I took issue with was misleading. No amount of benchamarks, screentshots, etc will make what you said any less false. I'm unsubscribing from this thread, so no need to respond to me with more shenanigans.

[funboy1 the cake is a lie]

ill have the amd a8 6600k 3,9 ghz quad core . if you wanne game with the integrated grafic chip you need alot ram that trows the fps alot up .its a very good cpu that you have but buy a grafic card the integrated grafic chip will not do it . i bought the nvidia gtx 750 ti for 175 euro ill play every game on high/ultra and i have a lower cpu than you . buy a grafic card and you have a very good game pc and buy a aftermarkt cooler they get very hot very fast my stock cooler whas going crazy . you can get crossair watercooler for 87 euro .

[HATTRİCK HKS CARAMEL® DELUXE]

funboy1님이 먼저 게시:

ill have the amd a8 6600k 3,9 ghz quad core . if you wanne game with the integrated grafic chip you need alot ram that trows the fps alot up .its a very good cpu that you have but buy a grafic card the integrated grafic chip will not do it . i bought the nvidia gtx 750 ti for 175 euro ill play every game on high/ultra and i have a lower cpu than you . buy a grafic card and you have a very good game pc and buy a aftermarkt cooler they get very hot very fast my stock cooler whas going crazy . you can get crossair watercooler for 87 euro .

Everyone can play his game on High/ Ultra while they already play it on Low.
Some features such Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropy Filtering will decrease the FPS ratio, even 2x.

Of course no one intends to play with an integrated video chip.

A quad core processor it's OK for gaming. Intel(R) is better because of the Hyper-Threading feature (2 threads per core).

And yes, if you can buy a Quad Core AMD (because no budget for i7), take it.

[funboy1 the cake is a lie]

yep intel is better there is no doubt about it they stay cooler are alot faster thats why every high and game pc has a intel amd is for a lower budged but still does the work. its like setting a bmw next to a ford you know .

[Alchemist79]

For another £35 this one comes with an r7 260,
http://www.ebuyer.com/666510-yoyotech-warbird-k-gaming-pc-eb1014k