Charlie 2014 年 10 月 14 日 下午 4:11
Razer Project 'Christine' What do you think?
For those who don't know Project Christine is Razer's vision for the future of desktop PCs, it's modular design would allow the user to change any component quickly and easily, each component is overclocked, water cooled and runs silently.

Official Site
http://www.razerzone.com/christine

YouTube Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FW78IAfybI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E61feV3zLAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOB57QP7Ao8

When this was first announced I never really payed much attention, but recently I have been very excited for this. So I pose the question, What do you think about Project Chistine and do you think this is the future of the Desktop PC? I personally love the idea, but I have doubts if we will ever see this come to market. But fingers crossed.

EDIT* Razer have said that they will allow other companies to make cases and components. And have partnered with several OEMs
最后由 Charlie 编辑于; 2014 年 10 月 15 日 上午 6:35
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Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:03 
引用自 Fork_Q2
The components inside the modules aren't likely the same you can buy off the shelf. That, and the business model appeared to be based on you buying the modules right from Razor who charged a massive mark-up on them.
Razer have said that they will allow other companies to make components and cases based of Project Christine so that wouldn't be an issue.
Fork_Q2 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:06 
引用自 GhostMotleyX
引用自 Fork_Q2
The components inside the modules aren't likely the same you can buy off the shelf. That, and the business model appeared to be based on you buying the modules right from Razor who charged a massive mark-up on them.
Razer have said that they will allow other companies to make components and cases based of Project Christine so that wouldn't be an issue.

Almost certainly licensed from Razor, so they still get a hefty cut from the extra costs of retail price. It'd only really be compelling if I could upgrade it by installing hardware I'd normally buy, but that's not (from what I understand) possible with it.
Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:12 
引用自 Fork_Q2
Almost certainly licensed from Razor, so they still get a hefty cut from the extra costs of retail price. It'd only really be compelling if I could upgrade it by installing hardware I'd normally buy, but that's not (from what I understand) possible with it.
Nope, no licensing fee or anything. Razer's CEO said that they are doing everything in their power to make this a reality, they will allow OEMs to make components and I guess you could call it a case? for no extra cost. If they did add a licensing fee it would be self defeating as their concept would never become as popular.
最后由 Charlie 编辑于; 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:13
Rove 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:18 
It's still going to cost more because volume and cause the design itself is more costly than regular OEM designs which gor for the cheapest way possible. At least I think it would cost more.
Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:20 
引用自 Rove
It's still going to cost more because volume and cause the design itself is more costly than regular OEM designs which gor for the cheapest way possible. At least I think it would cost more.
It would definitely cost more, but even if it was an extra £50 I would pay it, I am a suck up for design and this would solve my OCD dust problem. But if it became really popular, I mean REALLY popular it might only be an extra £10 or something and think off all the advantages something like this would bring.
Rove 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:24 
Ya you just gotta think though, pay for Christine with a i3 & GTX 750 ti or pay for a regular PC with i5 K-series or AMD FX 8 core and GTX 760 or R9 280?

Cause it's not going to make the i3 do crazy wonder tricks and turn it better than a overclockable i5 or FX 8 core for the same price with regular parts. Same thing with the GPUs.

Mineral oil isn't going to make cheaper parts that much better but it will make them more epxensive by just as much as it will increase the cost of more expensive parts.

Like I said, nice way to turn a PC into a Mac but I can think of smarter mainstream improvements to the current PC and ATX designs than this I think.
Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:28 
引用自 Rove
Ya you just gotta think though, pay for Christine with a i3 & GTX 750 ti or pay for a regular PC with i5 K-series or AMD FX 8 core and GTX 760 or R9 280?

Cause it's not going to make the i3 do crazy wonder tricks and turn it better than a overclockable i5 or FX 8 core for the same price with regular parts. Same thing with the GPUs.

Mineral oil isn't going to make cheaper parts that much better but it will make them more epxensive by just as much as it will increase the cost of more expensive parts.

Like I said, nice way to turn a PC into a Mac but I can think of smarter mainstream improvements to the current PC and ATX designs than this I think.
I don't think the pricing would be that steep. They could just use water instead of mineral oil and that would make it much cheaper. And I wouldn't say this is turning a PC into a Mac. It would allow PCs to run cooler, OC better (higher performance), easier to upgrade, easier to maintain, run silent and easier to build. I would be interested to hear about how you would change the current PC standards?
Rove 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:34 
Some smarter improvements that have made it into the PC mainstream:
*Bottom mounted PSUs
*Side mounted HDD
*Tooless installtion of drives
*Copper heatpipes
*Closed loop liquid cooling.

Christine is going to need a radiator or something somewhere so there is still aplace for dust to build up. I don't see how it improves a current liquid cooled PC with enough case fans to keep dust out of the interior and off the parts and motherboard? Except maybe in noise. But you could get silent fans, big and slow and noiseless. Christine will need cooling just like any other PC and that will take a radiator and fans and be prone to noise at least as much as anything else. If you want a silent PC it can already be done with conventional parts if you know what to use.
Fork_Q2 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:38 
引用自 GhostMotleyX
引用自 Fork_Q2
Almost certainly licensed from Razor, so they still get a hefty cut from the extra costs of retail price. It'd only really be compelling if I could upgrade it by installing hardware I'd normally buy, but that's not (from what I understand) possible with it.
Nope, no licensing fee or anything. Razer's CEO said that they are doing everything in their power to make this a reality, they will allow OEMs to make components and I guess you could call it a case? for no extra cost. If they did add a licensing fee it would be self defeating as their concept would never become as popular.

I don't think you actually read anything about the thing. The business plan is subscription based, you pay whatever amount they charge you, and you get hardware upgrades from them to plug in.

If they outright sold you the components instead, they of course would charge you far more what you can buy today. If they allowed anyone to make the modules, they wouldn't get their return.
Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:40 
引用自 Rove
Some smarter improvements that have made it into the PC mainstream:
*Bottom mounted PSUs
*Side mounted HDD
*Tooless installtion of drives
*Copper heatpipes
*Closed loop liquid cooling.

Christine is going to need a radiator or something somewhere so there is still aplace for dust to build up. I don't see how it improves a current liquid cooled PC with enough case fans to keep dust out of the interior and off the parts and motherboard? Except maybe in noise. But you could get silent fans, big and slow and noiseless. Christine will need cooling just like any other PC and that will take a radiator and fans and be prone to noise at least as much as anything else. If you want a silent PC it can already be done with conventional parts if you know what to use.
The problem with noise is that even this 'noise cancelling' fans you can still hear them and they are really expensive just for a fan. As for Christine it would need a fan but it wouldn't get as dusty as a regular PC. Even if you have dust filters in a clean environment with loads of fans it will still get dusty quite quick. All the components in Christine and enclosed so no dust could get inside the CPU, GPU etc... The only place dust could get is the fan, but that is easy to clean and then done.

引用自 Fork_Q2
I don't think you actually read anything about the thing. The business plan is subscription based, you pay whatever amount they charge you, and you get hardware upgrades from them to plug in.

If they outright sold you the components instead, they of course would charge you far more what you can buy today. If they allowed anyone to make the modules, they wouldn't get their return.
The subscription plan if something that they might do and it would be optional, still doesn't change the fact that they said they are going to let OEMs make components and cases. I don't think you've actually read anything about Project Christine.
最后由 rotNdude 编辑于; 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 11:44
TeKraken 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:45 
Must be an awesome pump if it's pumping oil through all those quick disconnects.
Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:46 
引用自 TeKraken
Must be an awesome pump if it's pumping oil through all those quick disconnects.
Yeah ''Razer Technology''
Fork_Q2 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:52 
引用自 GhostMotleyX
引用自 Fork_Q2
I don't think you actually read anything about the thing. The business plan is subscription based, you pay whatever amount they charge you, and you get hardware upgrades from them to plug in.

If they outright sold you the components instead, they of course would charge you far more what you can buy today. If they allowed anyone to make the modules, they wouldn't get their return.
The subscription plan if something that they might do and it would be optional, still doesn't change the fact that they said they are going to let OEMs make components and cases. I don't think you've actually read anything about Project Christine.

Letting third party companies make parts for it does not mean they won't charge the companies a licence fee to do so.

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all get a cut out of every third party controller or device made by MadCatz, Razor, Logitech and the like. Ultimately, it will be the customer still has to foot a portion of that bill, and that's why OEMs outright rejected it. Please read anything other then Razor's press release on this.
Charlie 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:54 
引用自 Fork_Q2
Letting third party companies make parts for it does not mean they won't charge the companies a licence fee to do so.

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all get a cut out of every third party controller or device made by MadCatz, Razor, Logitech and the like. Ultimately, it will be the customer still has to foot a portion of that bill, and that's why OEMs outright rejected it. Please read anything other then Razor's press release on this.
................... What I said in an earlier posr?

''Nope, no licensing fee or anything. Razer's CEO said that they are doing everything in their power to make this a reality, they will allow OEMs to make components and I guess you could call it a case? for no extra cost. If they did add a licensing fee it would be self defeating as their concept would never become as popular''
Fork_Q2 2014 年 10 月 20 日 上午 10:59 
引用自 GhostMotleyX
引用自 Fork_Q2
Letting third party companies make parts for it does not mean they won't charge the companies a licence fee to do so.

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all get a cut out of every third party controller or device made by MadCatz, Razor, Logitech and the like. Ultimately, it will be the customer still has to foot a portion of that bill, and that's why OEMs outright rejected it. Please read anything other then Razor's press release on this.
................... What I said in an earlier posr?

''Nope, no licensing fee or anything. Razer's CEO said that they are doing everything in their power to make this a reality, they will allow OEMs to make components and I guess you could call it a case? for no extra cost. If they did add a licensing fee it would be self defeating as their concept would never become as popular''

Which is nonsense, unless you think Razor is some sort of charity. They aren't in the market for making computer cases, Project Christine was always more than just the case.
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