Is This CPU Ok?

[AvoxJake]

Hello,

I'm building a budget gaming PC with my friend and I was just wondering if the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition - 4 Cores @ 3.4 Ghz CPU is any good?

How does it compare to the AMD Athlon II X3 440 too?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[_I_]

5 years ago the pii x4 965 was good
still as good as any current fx cpu for gaming

it beats the aii x3 all the way around

on a new build, look at the pentium g, i3, i5

[AvoxJake]

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

5 years ago the pii x4 965 was good
still as good as any current fx cpu for gaming

it beats the aii x3 all the way around

on a new build, look at the pentium g, i3, i5

Okay thanks, the PC is only aiming for around 60FPS on basic games (CS:GO, GMod, Borderlands 2 etc.) so I'm guessing this CPU should do just fine. I'm paring it up with a 750Ti just incase you're wondering :)

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Better off with this if you want cheap PC, the CPU will overclock to around 4.5 Ghz and R9 270 has better performance then GTX 750 Ti:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34hCVn

[Rove]

In a new build look at a FX 6300 6 core or if that costs too much then a Athlon II x4 860K 4 core is slightly cheaper.

If the CPU is used yes the Phenom II x4 965 is pretty good.

[upcoast]

Opprinnelig skrevet av AvoxJake:

Hello,

I'm building a budget gaming PC with my friend and I was just wondering if the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition - 4 Cores @ 3.4 Ghz CPU is any good?

How does it compare to the AMD Athlon II X3 440 too?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Do you already have these cpus or buying used?

If you're buying new the FX6300 is the better option.

[76561198169800449]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Rumpelcrutchskin:

Better off with this if you want cheap PC, the CPU will overclock to around 4.5 Ghz and R9 270 has better performance then GTX 750 Ti:

{LENKE FJERNET}http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34hCVn

Why not just go full size Motherboard?

[_I_]

if you are near a microcenter, you can get a g3258 and b85 board for around $100
then add a 212evo and 2x4g ram kit for under $80

for gaming it will run circles around the fx6 or pii x4

instead of the gtx750ti, get an r9 270
same price and better performance (if the power supply is 500+w)

[MrMcSwifty]

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

if you are near a microcenter, you can get a g3258 and b85 board for around $100
then add a 212evo and 2x4g ram kit for under $80

for gaming it will run circles around the fx6 or pii x4

I dunno... I feel like I've been saying this a lot lately, but I'll say it again... I don't think the G3258 is a very good recommendation over an FX.

There's no denying it offers incredible performance in older single-threaded programs (especially for the price), and it overclocks like a champ.

But the bottom line is it's still a budget dual-core CPU, and it's being rapidly left in the dust as more and more games are requiring multi-core support to even run.

For instance, it can't even run GTA V at 1080p/Very HIgh settings,[www.gamersnexus.net] yet an Athlon 760K handles it just fine.

So don't get me wrong... the G3258 is awesome for what you pay for it... but to claim it "runs circles" around the FX-series is being just a tad bit disingenuous.

[vadim]

Opprinnelig skrevet av McSwifty:

For instance, it can't even run GTA V at 1080p/Very HIgh settings,[www.gamersnexus.net] yet an Athlon 760K handles it just fine.

Wrong. I ran GTA V on dual-core (btw, Athlon 760K also has only 2 physical cores).

[MrMcSwifty]

Opprinnelig skrevet av vadim:

Wrong. I ran GTA V on dual-core (btw, Athlon 760K also has only 2 physical cores).

Yes, I know it does.

I think you missed my point.

I never said that GTA V won't run on a dual core CPU.

I said the 760K can run it better than the G3528 which supposedly "runs circles" around a FX.

[_I_]

if your going build a pc to play gta5, get an i5
why spend $60 on a game and $50-60 on a cpu to run it?

for older and last gen games g3258 overclocked to 4-4.5 will beat fx

[MrMcSwifty]

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

if your going build a pc to play gta5, get an i5
why spend $60 on a game and $50-60 on a cpu to run it?

for older and last gen games g3258 overclocked to 4-4.5 will beat fx

Thanks for the clarification.

Still seems to me like an odd recommendation to make.

Considering my Phenom II 965 runs older titles maxed at 60fps no problem.

And it can also run GTA V at High settings... (not well, but it's playable)

So what's the advantage of going for a G3258 that's strong in older titles but fails in newer ones?

[edit] Apart from the upgrade path, that is.... meaning you can easily replace it with the i5 you should have bought to begin with.

[_I_]

g3258 has 2 cores, but the core performance is double that of fx/pii

also much newer tech that can easily be upgraded to i5 4440-4790

[Steve]

If overclocked it can be

[vadim]

Opprinnelig skrevet av abedsbrother:

And this is against a Richland core, not even the Kaveri or the upcoming Excavator-based Godavari (launching in May-June, apparently[vr-zone.com]).

Does this matter that AMD was forced to leave gaming CPU market and, consequentally, there are not and most probably never will be FX CPUs based on Steamroller or Excavator microarchitecture? BTW, As far as I know, Excavator will not be any faster than previous series - its design oriented to be more energy efficient. And nothing more than that.
BTW, look at AMD Q1 financial results - its disastrous. As usual.