Fly Guy 21/abr./2015 às 10:01
Pure Gamers: Was the SSD Worth the Extra Cash Per GB?
HDD cost per GB is around $0.04 while SSD cost per GB is around $0.50. SSD boots Windows 8.1 faster than HDD by around 7 seconds but does nothing to improve gaming in terms of FPS or visual quality (GPU).

If you are a pure gamer would you suggest another pure gamer to buy an SSD although it will not benefit them in terms of gaming?

I wouldn't. If one has a limited budget to build a gaming PC then I would place the cash saved from buying a HDD and place that money into things that matter to the gamer: GPU and/or monitor.
Última edição por Fly Guy; 21/abr./2015 às 10:03
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Fly Guy 22/abr./2015 às 9:48 
Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
I will say again, read it carefully "If they can afford one" If you have the money an SSD is a worthwhile investment that is very future-proof.

You don't seem to understand how you've contradicted yourself. I'll quote you again:

Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
I recommend [EVERYONE] get a SSD as a boot drive if they can afford one, it makes a huge difference to PC performance

Here, you are saying "pure gamers (who can afford it)" should get an SSD. "Everyone," does not exclude anyone. It includes "pure gamers" who can aford an SSD. But yet later you followed up with this statement:

Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
I have said if ALL you care about is fps and image quality then don't get an SSD.

Now you say, pure gamers (people who only care about FPS and image quality) shouldn't get an SSD.

Not a contradiction?

Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
...so why getting a SSD is such a big deal I have no idea...

Any purchased product that does not serve the consumer's need is a waste of money.

Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
Also a quick look at your profile...

So you used the word, "quick" because you don't want to appear as though you've complimented me by visiting my profile because of your interest in gathering information about me or is it because you don't want to appear as though you are snooping around? Which is it?









Última edição por Fly Guy; 22/abr./2015 às 10:31
Fly Guy 22/abr./2015 às 9:52 
Escrito originalmente por ~Dirt Na$ty~™:
Wait, you asked if people thought it was worth it right? Then you bash...

You're another person who doesn't understand the purpose of the thread. Read it. It's about proving justifictions.

If you have read the entire post you would have seen that I have answered my own question by giving my own opinion/stance. If I answered my own question then the thread is obvioulsy not about if an SSD is recommendable or not but how can a "pure gamer" justify spending the extra cash on a product that does need meet his needs.
Última edição por Fly Guy; 22/abr./2015 às 10:04
Charlie 22/abr./2015 às 9:52 
Escrito originalmente por Genghis Khan:
SNIP for great justice
There is nothing contradictive about what I've said. My OPINION is that everyone should get an SSD if they have the money because they are a good investment that is future-proof. It is obviously your opinion that SSDs are pointless. You are suffering from personal incredulity, you because you cannot understand what I've written does not make my statement contradictive or wrong.

"So you used the word, "quick" because you don't want to appear as though you've complimented me by visiting my profile because of your interest in gathering information about me or is it because you don't want to appear as though you are snooping around? Which is it?"

I visited your profile, don't get excited.
Fly Guy 22/abr./2015 às 9:54 
Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:

I visited your profile, don't get excited.

Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
Also a quick look at your profile

Who said I was? Still, you didn't answer my question.

"So you've used the word, "quick" because:

1. You didn't want to appear as though you've complimented me by visiting my profile because of your interest in gathering information about me.

or

2. Because you don't want to appear as though you are snooping around, being a busybody.

Which is it?"

Última edição por Fly Guy; 22/abr./2015 às 10:30
Charlie 22/abr./2015 às 9:57 
Escrito originalmente por Genghis Khan:
SNIP
I visited your profile, don't get excited.
Fly Guy 22/abr./2015 às 9:57 
Escrito originalmente por You Know Nothing Jon Snow:
I visited your profile, don't get excited.

Who said I was?
Última edição por Fly Guy; 22/abr./2015 às 9:58
rotNdude 22/abr./2015 às 10:08 
If you buy a PC, then your overall experience isn't about strictly gaming. It's about doing many other things too. I game on my PC, but I also don't keep a ton of games loaded at a time. I also don't have massive storage requirements. Therefore, I don't need a lot of disk space. I enjoy having Windows boot fast and games loading fast. I run a 240GB SSD and never exceed about half of that as used space. I really enjoy the speed of the SSD compared to a traditional hard drive.

The SSD won't affect your FPS unless you run games that load things on the fly. It will improve load times for levels and I like that.

I'm not sure what this thread is actually providing for advice. Most gamers know if an SSD will help them and most gamers know that an SSD won't improve in-game performance unless the game needs to load things while on the move.
Fly Guy 22/abr./2015 às 10:21 
Escrito originalmente por rotNdude:
If you buy a PC, then your overall experience isn't about strictly gaming.

When I am on my PC, I spend 98% gaming, the other 2%, answering and writing emails. My PC is virtually a heavily improved gaming console of the 70s-80s.

Escrito originalmente por rotNdude:
I'm not sure what this thread is actually providing for advice.

I answered my own question, "Pure Gamers: Was the SSD Worth the Extra Cash Per GB?" by giving my on stance on SSD. The thread is about how does a "pure gamer" justify the extra money spent on an SSD if it doen't serve the "pure gamer's" need (improved FPS and image quality)?

Escrito originalmente por rotNdude:
Most gamers know if an SSD will help them and most gamers know that an SSD won't improve in-game performance unless the game needs to load things while on the move.

Is common sense universal? People do have their own ways to justify the things that don't seem justifiable. The thread isn't only the attempt for the "pure gamer" to find ways to justify spending cash on a product that doen't serve his needs but it's also about opening up one's mind to other people's ways of thinking. It may be worth implementing. The only way to find the truth is to put it to the test.

Última edição por Fly Guy; 22/abr./2015 às 10:25
˜lokkandload˜™ 22/abr./2015 às 10:50 
First of all if you are a pure gamer, why haven't you considered separating your OS on a different drive than your games? Doing that prevents OS task and processes from interfering with a game/program installed on a different drive altogether.

I think having the OS on an SSD and the games on another disk is a tremendous boost. The whole computer runs faster. The spinning platter disc is free of unneeded tasks, and is much faster reading game files, that and storage space is cheaper yes. The meager amount of space typical SSD hasn't been worth the trouble of putting games/programs on it alone. That's why I suggest the dual drive setup in the first place SSD for OS and traditional Hybrid or standard HDD for everything else. I use the Hybrid for everything else drive due to the 8Gb flash cache on the drive for opening programs and games faster and file transfer rates are insane.
Última edição por ˜lokkandload˜™; 22/abr./2015 às 10:51
vadim 22/abr./2015 às 10:59 
Escrito originalmente por ~Dirt Na$ty~™:
First of all if you are a pure gamer, why haven't you considered separating your OS on a different drive than your games?
Why should I? That has has very little effect on the disk subsystem performance.
About SHDD - I think that is mostly marketing hype. I tested NAND/SSD caching and noticed no any performance boost at all. More than that, I got about 1% IOPL decrease.
rotNdude 22/abr./2015 às 10:59 
Have you ever run a PC with an SSD? I justify the money I spend based on my satisfaction. I would never run a PC again without one.
˜lokkandload˜™ 22/abr./2015 às 11:12 
Tested as in you have a SSD and Hybrid drive now? If not, you have no idea how FKN fast they really are...it'll amaze you for sure.
vadim 22/abr./2015 às 11:21 
Escrito originalmente por rotNdude:
Have you ever run a PC with an SSD?
Who do you ask? As for me, both my desktop and laptop (gigabyte P34g) have SSD.
Maybe SSD can be useful for the laptop (although I did not notice that), but I do not see any benefit from it in my desktop.
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