Is 6800k last FM2 APU?

[RRW359]

I have a PC with an FM2 motherboard (not FM2+), and an A10 5800K. It is a decent APU, but I was thinking of upgrading it. I heard that the last APU for the FM2 socket was the 6800K, and I'm planning to get one, but I don't want to get it and then find out that there was another APU I could have gotten instead, or find out that AMD is still making FM2-compatable APU's and will release another one shortly after I get it. It's hard to find much information on the internet about it, and even though I believe from what I've read that AMD is done with the FM2 socket, I just want someone to confirm/refute it.

Remember:
1. I'm talking about the FM2 socket, not FM2+.
2. I'm asking about APU's, not CPU's.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

FM2+ and AM3+ both are already dead. No more CPUs for these. While some are still on market, finding anything not made older than FM2+ or AM3+ is quite hard to find any longer. APUs always were crap, not even as good of a processor as the AM3 Phenom II class. Only reason the APUs were any good at all, was due to having Onboard GPU more powerful and compatible what Intel was offering for Onboard GPU.

AMD is currently working on a new socket and 16-core APU lineup, due for 2016

[RRW359]

Publicado originalmente por Bad-Motha:

FM2+ and AM3+ both are already dead. No more CPUs for these. While some are still on market, finding anything not made older than FM2+ or AM3+ is quite hard to find any longer. APUs always were crap, not even as good of a processor as the AM3 Phenom II class. Only reason the APUs were any good at all, was due to having Onboard GPU more powerful and compatible what Intel was offering for Onboard GPU.

AMD is currently working on a new socket and 16-core APU lineup, due for 2016

I know, I just want to get as good a processor as possible for my PC (I have Windows 7 OEM, which I believe means that I need to get a new version if I upgrade my mobo). I am new to building/upgrading my PC, and I just wanted to make sure that I upgrade it as much as possible before needing to put out the money on a new MOBO, CPU, and OS at the same time.

[Space Coward]

Actually, as long as you keep your hard drive you should be able to re-use Windows 7. It's not like Win7 can't handle an FM2+ motherboard.

Before you upgrade your APU, though, make sure you've got a good graphics card if you switch to a CPU. Integrated graphics won't get you very far.

[RRW359]

Publicado originalmente por Kill-Cam Celebrity:

Actually, as long as you keep your hard drive you should be able to re-use Windows 7. It's not like Win7 can't handle an FM2+ motherboard.

Before you upgrade your APU, though, make sure you've got a good graphics card if you switch to a CPU. Integrated graphics won't get you very far.

I heard the activation key for Windows OEM only works on one PC, and that it conciders a new mobo to mean you have a new compuer.

Also, even not including Windows, upgrading the mobo is the most expensive part and I want to max out mine before I get a new one, and if I were to get an actual CPU, that would mean even more expences on top of the new mobo, and that I'd need to get a new GPU (I have a 6670 for dual graphics, but I doubt that it would be very good as a stand-alone card).

[vadim]

Publicado originalmente por RRW359:

Remember:
2. I'm asking about APU's, not CPU's.

So-called "APU" is marketing name for AMD CPUs. Thus, statement "I need APU, not CPU" is meaningless.

[RRW359]

Publicado originalmente por vadim:

Publicado originalmente por RRW359:

Remember:
2. I'm asking about APU's, not CPU's.

So-called "APU" is marketing name for AMD CPUs. Thus, statement "I need APU, not CPU" is meaningless.

I want a CPU with a built-in GPU that can fit in the FM2 socket, is capable of dual graphics, and is newer/better than the 5800K (and preferably in the same A10 series). Saying APU is easier.

Also, FM2 supports conventional CPU's without a GPU. Saying APU means that it has intigrated graphics.

[_I_]

dual graphics is pointless
the gpus that support dual graphics often give higher highs, but also lower lows in hybrid crossfire mode
any decet gpu will outperform it, r9 270+or gtx x60+

[RRW359]

Publicado originalmente por _I_:

dual graphics is pointless
the gpus that support dual graphics often give higher highs, but also lower lows in hybrid crossfire mode
any decet gpu will outperform it, r9 270+or gtx x60+

I said capable (as in if it makes the game better, I will enable it).

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

accordingto this wiki page, a10-6800k is the 'fastest' apu cpu in the fm2 socket, 4.1ghz up to 4.4ghz turbo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_(microarchitecture)

[RRW359]

Publicado originalmente por chiefputsi:

accordingto this wiki page, a10-6800k is the 'fastest' apu cpu in the fm2 socket, 4.1ghz up to 4.4ghz turbo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_(microarchitecture)

Thanks. I will probably get it, I just wasn't entirely sure when/if AMD stopped producing FM2 APU's (again, google didn't give me anything really coherent), and I wanted to make sure that the 6800k was best for my board.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Look at the comparisons; there is less than a 5% averaging difference performance-wise overall between stock speeds of A10-6800K -vs- A10-5800K, ranking around same as an FX-4 series or Phenom II 940/955 series. Quite poor for any real gaming what so ever.

Not even worth a few $$ to swap em. For price of a new, boxed 6800K you could get FX-8 series or a lower-budget Intel CPU. Either of which will out-perform anything from Phenom or APU class.

You want to upgrade, get a new Motherboard and CPU, such as Intel 1150 setup. They still use DDR3 RAM

[vadim]

Publicado originalmente por Kill-Cam Celebrity:

Just save up and get an FX 8350 with R9 270.

In the games FX-8350 has the same performance level CPU as i3, but its more expensive. Thus, no reasons to buy this obsolete CPU - It has low performance per $ value.

[Rove]

My suggestion to you is to get a good cooler and good motherboard if you don't have both already and then overclock your A10-5800K instead of upgrading it.

Yes the A10-6800K is the last (best) FM2 APU that is currently available. Others go to FM2+.

However you can get a new FM2+ motherboard and it will work with your FM2 A10-5800K. Some features requiring a FM2+ APU will be disabled like PCIe 3.0 which will only work as 2.0.

Do you have a good motherboard or cooler for overclocking already?

I bet with proper equipment and settings the A10-5800K can reach over 4.5 GHz, maybe over 5GHz if you are good with it. Also it's still a pretty nice APU even at stock speeds.

Seems like a waste to upgrade without getting the most out of it.

You can also overclock the graphics if that is your problem. However overclocking both CPU and iGPU will yield less benefit to each as they share power and thermals.

[upcoast]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67043-amd-a10-7800-kaveri-apu-review-11.html

A better gpu like 270x/280/ and even 285/960would get you miles ahead of a dual igp/low end gpu xfire abomination besides that the cpu alone would be minimal improvement.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2013/07/02/haswell-and-richland-gpu-testing/5

Bad idea in general ^.

Publicado originalmente por RRW359:

Publicado originalmente por vadim:

So-called "APU" is marketing name for AMD CPUs. Thus, statement "I need APU, not CPU" is meaningless.

I want a CPU with a built-in GPU that can fit in the FM2 socket, is capable of dual graphics, and is newer/better than the 5800K (and preferably in the same A10 series). Saying APU is easier.

Also, FM2 supports conventional CPU's without a GPU. Saying APU means that it has intigrated graphics.