PC has fairly good specs but get low fps in a lot of games

[Weh]

Knowledge level: I can plug a graphics card in and that's about it.

I've recently upgraded my graphics card, but despite that and decent CPU I'm not hitting fps I think I should.
E.g.-
- Dying Light 30 out 70 inside (vsync does nothing)
- AC:Black flag- 15 on ship/combat, 70 otherwise (know uplay are ♥♥♥♥ at optimising but even rogue is around 40 average)
- TF2 - 40-120 (huge jumps, doesn't matter what quality)
- Shadow of Mordor 40 mostly sometimes 60
It's never smooth/consistent.

Here's my specs:
AMD FX-6300 (6 CPUs), ~3.7GHz OC
8gb RAM (2x4gb Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3)
AMD Radeon R9 OC 4gb edn.
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
PSU: Corsair vs450
Use a Seagate 3tb expansion drive for games.
Have 1tb ssd for other ♥♥♥♥.

I just use a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ TV screen, looking to upgrade soon.
Will getting DDR5 RAM help? Know my motherboard and PSU aren't amazing either.
From reading other sources I think it might be a hard drive problem or something over other hardware but not sure.
Will increasing PSU help?

Thanks for help :)

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

what is recommended minimum psu wattage for "AMD Radeon R9 OC 4gb edn." ?
i think it is not enough to run on a 450w psu.

[Weh]

Yeah you're right! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell it says 500w min, yeah looks like it's time to get a new PSU then. Cheers bro

[_I_]

which r9 card do you have?

vs450 is good for around a 150w gpu in that system

the board/cpu is most likley holding it back

fx has poor core performance
most games do not need more than 4 cores
tf2 only uses 2 cores pentium g or i3 will be a huge improvemnt there

and the 760/710 chipset was designed to run aii/pii cpus and modded to run fx at nerfed specs

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Get rid of the OC too, that can easily be an issue since the older 7/8 series Chipsets can not effectively utilize FX CPUs. Most likely making your MB VRMs and Chipset run way too hot. You want to OC it, get a 990FX Motherboard.

[initiaLiSeD]

As above, PSU and Motherboards are too low for your system.

The huge jumps you are seeing are when the motherboard can't handle the CPUs power needs and drops it's core speed.

Get a 990FX board (ASUS Sabertooth is great), decent cooling and a decent 600W+ PSU and you should be able to tease an extra GHz out of that 6300.

[upcoast]

R9 4GB says r9 290 or above with a 450w psu you gotta be kidding?

If you're not kidding, being under powered even though it may run ( I'm surprised it does run ) it'll castrate your fps a fair chunk.

Ps, the board as most only takes ddr3 ram, there are the new intel x99 boards take ddr4 but ddr5 is still in the planning stages if at all.

[Weh]

_I_ : I have R9 270x (it says it's 4gb but actually more like 3.7gb)

Bad Motha: get rid of OC on CPU or GPU (tbh don't think possible on GPU, came like it) people I bought the rig off (custom build, got ripped off horribly) said that cpu was good to do OCs on for some reason, bastards just trying to rip people off.

initiaLiSeD: that makes sense.

Thank you for the recommendations, it's as I feared and I'm going to have to redo the whole thing once my exams are over. Think I'll go with corsair modular 750w and the 990fx board. Just need to save up £200ish :( oh well what are student loans for. Thanks guys!

[upcoast]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/69124-msi-970-gaming-amd-am3-motherboard-review.html

Go with that ^ instead of the overpriced sabertooth asus even the GA 990FXA-UD3 does a good job for less $$.

[initiaLiSeD]

The CPU is usually a great overclocker, the motherboard isn't.

A 970 board might take the 6300 up to 4.2-4.3GHz. A 990FX can get them close to 5GHz. Yes you can cheap out and get a Gigabyte board but in my experience (6 years building, testing and overclocking gaming PCs as a job) ASUS boards are the easiest and most consistent to work with.

[_I_]

a quality 970+ board with 4+1 or better vrm config with heatsinsks
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

msi makes many boards not capable of 125w cpus or overclocking

[Weh]

Don't worry not going back to gigabyte again lol. Got to say I'm stuck between a MSI 990fxa-gd65 which supports everything voltage wise (about £90) and the asus sabertooth (£130) which has the heat dissapation and TUF components plus dual gpu support.
I think I can fit the MSI in my current case but sabertooth would need new one (£40).
Choices, do I get the asus & new case then use old spare parts and old case and have 2 PCs or go with msi and fit it in my current rig (hopefully, need to do some measuring)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Nothing wrong with Gigabyte, just depends on model.
Every brand has their lower-end stuff too. Even MSI and ASUS.
MSI is one of the worst, unless u getting a nicer "Gaming / Dragon" series MSI board, avoid basically any AMD board below $100 or so range. But regardless of pricing range, look at the in-depth reviews from good techs.

What your issue really is here is the 7/8 series AMD boards, while some were updated to be able to accept the FX CPUs, due to the original chipset design, can not effectively output the CPU's full potential per-say. This is why the 9 series chipset board were released. 970 is the lower-end, and 990FX is the higher-end. FX4/6 are fine on a 970, but for any decent OC'ing or for FX8/9 usage, you want a 990FX chipset board.

Problem with changing an older AMD board for newer ones can be an issue if the newer board has UEFI BIOS. That MAY require OS reinstall. It should work if you change the UEFI setting in BIOS to Legacy Mode, but in my experience with various boards, this has not always worked. Especially when u might consider the differences between boards regarding SATA Mode (IDE vs AHCI) which can be another issue.

Best bet is if you going to simply do a swap upgrade between older AMD 7/8 series board and newer 9 series board, be ready to reinstall your OS fresh, which means do all your backups firstly, in-case you run into issues with the OS after the board swap and don't know how to get around that otherwise.

If you don't want to go over $150 USD or so ranges, then I would suggest these which are all still quite decent, but more mid-range. Not cheap junk, but not the best either.

- GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
- ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0
- ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer

[Weh]

Yeah think I'm gonna go for the asus sabertooth, I'd rather pay a bit more for the more quality components and go with the good reviews.
It does use EUFI BIOS so will have to reinstall windoes 7, does it mean I have to buy another license? Also when you said changing to legacy didn't work, meaning it wouldn't re-install it all together/PC generally didn't work or do you mean it meant you had to re-install the OS?

I'd take you all out for a beer if any of you lived anywhere near London lol, thanks for the advice

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well when changing boards with such differences, typically what u will have to do here is in the BIOS, there is a UEFI config, set this to Legacy and you should be ok.

Generally when you are upgrading and the old board still works, I would review current BIOS settings so you can effectively translate that when looking at the BIOS on your newer board. Can depend what was changed on the old board and such. Some older board had the default SATA Mode as IDE, where as newer boards default to AHCI, which can effect how the OS wants to load due to Registry & Driver differences.

ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 is one of the better board, no doubt.

Best bet still is backup whatever you need off your OS drive before switching boards. Unless u were planning a clean OS install anyways. Now u can reinstall OS without wiping the drive data, simply by booting to OS media and install to same drive. It will put the previous OS install in "Windows.old" and u can transfer your files that way.

Without any of that regarding Windows, I would first uninstall Motherboard Drivers via Control Panel > Programs and Features for your old board before you physically swap them. That should help avoid OS bootup issues on the new board for most part. Once new board is in and you've setup the BIOS and booted into Windows Desktop, just download all latest Drivers from AMD.com for the Chipset and then any extras you may need (such as USB 3.0 driver) from the support site for that board model.

[[541]Kaydn Burns]

M.Thatcher's Left Testicle původně napsal:

Knowledge level: I can plug a graphics card in and that's about it.

I've recently upgraded my graphics card, but despite that and decent CPU I'm not hitting fps I think I should.
E.g.-
- Dying Light 30 out 70 inside (vsync does nothing)
- AC:Black flag- 15 on ship/combat, 70 otherwise (know uplay are ♥♥♥♥ at optimising but even rogue is around 40 average)
- TF2 - 40-120 (huge jumps, doesn't matter what quality)
- Shadow of Mordor 40 mostly sometimes 60
It's never smooth/consistent.

Here's my specs:
AMD FX-6300 (6 CPUs), ~3.7GHz OC
8gb RAM (2x4gb Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3)
AMD Radeon R9 OC 4gb edn.
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
PSU: Corsair vs450
Use a Seagate 3tb expansion drive for games.
Have 1tb ssd for other ♥♥♥♥.

I just use a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ TV screen, looking to upgrade soon.
Will getting DDR5 RAM help? Know my motherboard and PSU aren't amazing either.
From reading other sources I think it might be a hard drive problem or something over other hardware but not sure.
Will increasing PSU help?

Thanks for help :)

Alot of people on this post dont know what they are talking about, your psu wont effect your FPS lmfao, if it was drawing too much power the pc would just shut off, second dying light does not run good on amd, in fact all the games you mentioned dont run good on AMD, you need to ditch AMD and get intel and nvidia, well actually you could stay with amd gpu but be aware that some games dont run well on amd, but definately ditch amd processors, they are old and obsolete