So I'm thinking of getting a prebuilt gaming PC
After doing a lot of research I know the best and cheapest option is to build your own. I'm not going that route though. I know I know. I'm thinking of using eCollegePC. They've got some pretty good pre-builts it seems. I'm not too PC knowledgeable and I wanted a few opinions. My price range is somewhere between 850 and 1100.

I'm looking for a decent system that will last me a few years and can play most stuff with relative ease. I'm not really looking to play high end games on ultra settings. Also sorry if this is in the wrong forum. This one seems to be nice from eCollege. I only tweaked the graphics card setting.

http://www.ecollegepc.com/Intel-core-i5-4590-cpu-gaming.html
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I think you could do better over at cyberpower.com.
For a pre-built, I'd check out the Alienware Alpha. Their actually very nice machines for the price. Small, Compact, and for the 849$ model you get an i7, 8GB RAM, and a GTX 860M.

People hate on alienware, but if pre-built is your only option, they have some solid options with their new steam boxes.

Just my 25 cents.
Asaggynoodle の投稿を引用:
People hate on alienware, but if pre-built is your only option, they have some solid options with their new steam boxes.

The only reason to buy Alienware is if you think Michael Dell deserves to be paid more.
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Asaggynoodle の投稿を引用:
People hate on alienware, but if pre-built is your only option, they have some solid options with their new steam boxes.

The only reason to buy Alienware is if you think Michael Dell deserves to be paid more.

If he's a hard worker then he deserves to get rewarded for it. You don't just get to be a CEO of a major company for being a slacker.
Forget the flaming...

If you think the Alpha is a "good buy" then u seriously should not give "build" advice.
It's "mobile" parts u can't change, wrapped up in tiny box. You either love it or hate it. But u can't upgrade it. And it is a very limited machine to say the least.

Alpha is something you would buy to put in another room for the purpose of streaming games from a host PC that can actually run them very well. The Alpha is not going to be running games on its own at 1080p nearly maxed out. Which you could do if you spent around the same amount, maybe slightly more and build your own PC. If you want it small, fine. Just be sure you know what all that means and what limitations it brings into focus.

$1100 u can do quite well. But $1100 towards anything from any OEM does not go far, at all. Plus if you buy from a pre-build OEM and do not buy extra warranty, then the entire product is fairly pointless and this is what most do not understand, this is where the brand makes it money and if u don't purchase the warranty at product purchase, you get the shaft and they make even more if u want to extend it later.

Build your own and get the full warranty of each product in the system.
Bad-Motha の投稿を引用:
Build your own and get the full warranty of each product in the system.

This is also true of Pre Built systems from the likes of Cyberpower (I used to work for their UK operation). You get their standard 1 year warranty but if your HDD manufacturer offers a 3 year warranty you'd also get that but would have to go through the HDD manufacturer rather than the reseller once you are outside the first year. There is a minor caveat that you may need to individually register each component with the manufacturer directly (as you would with a self build) in order to qualify.

The other point is that with companies like Cyberpower the price of the system is often competitive with self build as they can buy parts in bulk. On top of that you get to have someone on the end of the phone who knows their systems inside out should anything go wrong.

Having designed, built, tested and overclocked a range of small form factor systems (this for example: http://www.trustedreviews.com/cyberpower-infinity-game-qube-review ) I would recommend sticking to a modular system based on ITX or MATX and desktop grade components in a Shoebox or VCR style chassis rather than going for systems based on laptop parts.

Or you could learn how to build a PC, it really isn't too challenging, no harder than a Lego/Meccano set or Ikea furniture. But don't go small form factor for your first few builds.
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Cyberpower isn't an OEM, they are no different from people who build their own and resell them; to put it really mild, and short-and-sweet. Sure it goes beyond this, but not much. So again, they are a Reseller, not an OEM.

If you buy from a major OEM like Dell, HP, Lenovo, Gateway; all the hardware shipped within the system is registered through the OEM and thus so is any individual warranty that goes along with it. Let's say I buy a Dell or Alienware and it comes with a WD drive. If I only get standard 1 year warranty, that applies to all those parts within. So if that drive dies I can't go through WD for a replacement, you have to go through the OEM and the warranty length only through them, based on warranty plan.
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initiaLiSeD の投稿を引用:
But don't go small form factor for your first few builds.

Urgh. I hate small form factor. If you live in a place that gets really hot during the summer and your pc isn't in air conditioning...well, welcome to problems. I used to have a shuttle XPC. Never doing that again.
WHY...Ask yourself that question...WHY

Save money or better components when you build..
Thanks for all the responses so far. I'm still about 3 or 4 months away probably before I pull the trigger on the buy of anything.
Bad-Motha の投稿を引用:
Forget the flaming...

If you think the Alpha is a "good buy" then u seriously should not give "build" advice.
It's "mobile" parts u can't change, wrapped up in tiny box. You either love it or hate it. But u can't upgrade it. And it is a very limited machine to say the least.

Alpha is something you would buy to put in another room for the purpose of streaming games from a host PC that can actually run them very well. The Alpha is not going to be running games on its own at 1080p nearly maxed out. Which you could do if you spent around the same amount, maybe slightly more and build your own PC. If you want it small, fine. Just be sure you know what all that means and what limitations it brings into focus.

$1100 u can do quite well. But $1100 towards anything from any OEM does not go far, at all. Plus if you buy from a pre-build OEM and do not buy extra warranty, then the entire product is fairly pointless and this is what most do not understand, this is where the brand makes it money and if u don't purchase the warranty at product purchase, you get the shaft and they make even more if u want to extend it later.

Build your own and get the full warranty of each product in the system.

The OP clearly said Building wasn't an option, so for me to be one of the only people to give him an actually usable reccomendation then to say I have no place giving advise is highly ignorant of you. If you're looking for a Prebuilt in a living room form factor, I would say it's a good machine. No home made machines are going to get close to the form factor of the alpha.
Sure, there are HTPC cases, but you'd be stuck with the integrated graphics of either the AMD or Intel offerings. The GTX 860M is actually quite fast. Not to mention, overclocks like a beast.
While you guys knock the Alpha, you neglect to look into the details. 849.99 For a i7, 8GB RAM, and a GTX 860M is not a bad deal at all.
Every part of the alpha is upgradable except the GPU. It has an GTX 860M 2GB GDDR5.

What I don't understand is you guys have no problem reccomending CyberPowerPC systems, but not alienware? Being a computer enthusiast isn't about being ignorant and Bias, although that's how most of them are now adays, it's about finding the perfect solution for your needs. If that means spending an extra few hundred dollars on something that works better for you, who cares.

Asaggynoodle の投稿を引用:
Bad-Motha の投稿を引用:
Forget the flaming...

If you think the Alpha is a "good buy" then u seriously should not give "build" advice.
It's "mobile" parts u can't change, wrapped up in tiny box. You either love it or hate it. But u can't upgrade it. And it is a very limited machine to say the least.

Alpha is something you would buy to put in another room for the purpose of streaming games from a host PC that can actually run them very well. The Alpha is not going to be running games on its own at 1080p nearly maxed out. Which you could do if you spent around the same amount, maybe slightly more and build your own PC. If you want it small, fine. Just be sure you know what all that means and what limitations it brings into focus.

$1100 u can do quite well. But $1100 towards anything from any OEM does not go far, at all. Plus if you buy from a pre-build OEM and do not buy extra warranty, then the entire product is fairly pointless and this is what most do not understand, this is where the brand makes it money and if u don't purchase the warranty at product purchase, you get the shaft and they make even more if u want to extend it later.

Build your own and get the full warranty of each product in the system.

The OP clearly said Building wasn't an option, so for me to be one of the only people to give him an actually usable reccomendation then to say I have no place giving advise is highly ignorant of you. If you're looking for a Prebuilt in a living room form factor, I would say it's a good machine. No home made machines are going to get close to the form factor of the alpha.
Sure, there are HTPC cases, but you'd be stuck with the integrated graphics of either the AMD or Intel offerings. The GTX 860M is actually quite fast. Not to mention, overclocks like a beast.
While you guys knock the Alpha, you neglect to look into the details. 849.99 For a i7, 8GB RAM, and a GTX 860M is not a bad deal at all.
Every part of the alpha is upgradable except the GPU. It has an GTX 860M 2GB GDDR5.

What I don't understand is you guys have no problem reccomending CyberPowerPC systems, but not alienware? Being a computer enthusiast isn't about being ignorant and Bias, although that's how most of them are now adays, it's about finding the perfect solution for your needs. If that means spending an extra few hundred dollars on something that works better for you, who cares.

I don't find it fun spending extra money on something that's inferior to what else is available. While the i7-4765T that comes in the $850 Alpha isn't bad. The 860m - that's roughly a GTX 750Ti: a mid-ish end gaming card. Most newer games won't run max settings on 1080p at 30fps, you'll have to tweak the settings and expect to play most games on a medium to high mix.

Also, don't forget to mention that the Alienware Alpha is a Steambox system. There are thing this system can and cannot do while in Game mode or just can't do period. You can read more about the can and cannot do for the Alpha box here [venturebeat.com].

I personally wouldn't recommend this unless you're a casual PC gamer that uses Steam as their main gaming source.
If u want Mini Style WinOS Pre-Build; then I'd look at this.
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer-Revolt-Special
Thanks for that recommendation and opinions. Keep them coming anybody. I'm still all ears.
While what I posted was just me trying to suggest something decent and small that should hopefully meet your budget. Please take advantage of such sales/discounts if u can, it helps.

But also, whatever u buy, get something that uses parts u can change around, upgrade. The pre-build I suggested, if u want to later on you can put those parts in a different ATX case. And make changes if needed, such as CPU, RAM, GPU, PSU, Drives... etc.

Where as something like Alienware Alpha, you won't be able to upgrade it.
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