Good Video card for Amd A10 7850k?

[mika]

So this is the plan iam getting a high-end Gpu in about 2 months something like a 780ti, Gtx 970, 980 or a Radeon 290 or 290 x! But in the mean time iam having some problems with this Apu Iam thinking of picking-up a Radeon 7870 Ghz Edition for $120 to get me bye until I get my high-end gpu- Iam struggling in some games with this Apu I wont lie,And I wont even attempt to play any of the Metro games, So schould I do it or no>? Would it be faster then my i-gpu? I can get either the 7870 or a used Gtx 580 which i already owned in the past ( Decent card ) also for $120.


This is just a Temporary solution until my other Gpu arrives.

1) Amd A10 7850k-Stock clocks
2)Gigabyte A55 m Motherboard- Very cheep ( was free )
3) Stock heatsink- But I also have an Aftermarket I can install
4) Corsair Hx 850 watt Psu
5) Corsair Force Ssd
6) Wdd Black 1 tb Hardrive\
7) Asus 1920x1080 Monitor at 60hz max is 75hz.
8) Corsair Vengence 1600mhz 4 gb single stick

Now I know some of you will say go and buy some Faster Ramm and I would have to agree with you but id rather upgrade the Gpu 1st since with discrete cards Ramm dosent really matter that much anyway.Overall its a Nice gaming pc but iam kinda of a ♥♥♥♥♥ when it comes to Graphics, I like maxing things out *( lol)

[Rove]

RAM matters with discrete cards also. Discrete cards will share system RAM just like the APU does, they just come with a bit of their own at extra high bandwidth to keep them speedy.

Also RAM will matter for the APU's CPU and GPGPU computing abilities. This will increase your performance just from the APU even with a dedicated GPU.

Go buy faster RAM & more of it. 8GB minimum.

Two big problems with your system now:
1. you don't have enough RAM, 4 GB is low already and the APU eats it up also. For example I know the A10-6800K uses minimum 512MB system RAM and can use up to 4GB which would be all your RAM and none left for CPU.
2. Your RAM is very slow for the APU which needs DDR3-2133 at minimum. Further you only have 1 stick of RAM which will only run 1/2 the bandwidth it would if you meanwhile had 2. This is cause two sticks will run double effective speed. So 2*DDR3-2133 =1*DDR3-4266 which is so fast they don't even make a single stick that fast but 2 sticks will do it the same.

If you really are set on a temporary dedicated card (which is foolish) then I think you should snap up the cheapest R7 250X, R7 260 or R7 260X you can find for under $100 new.

List by price of all 3:
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=161,162,149&sort=a8

[mika]

10-4 I will check into the ramm ( u have my word) Iam kinda set on a gpu to be honest its only 100 bucks- Whats wrong with either a 7870 Ghz edition or a Nvidia Gtx 580? Wouldnt both of those be faster then my Apus I-gpu? Btw I have a 7850k not a 6800k anymore.

[Rove]

Yes both those cards would be fast BUT the problem you are having now probably is NOT your iGPU. It's probably too little & too slow RAM. Try it with fast RAM and it's probably fine.

If you still need performance from a temporary card after getting 2*4GB DDR3-2133 or faster RAM then you go and get a cheap R7 250X, R7 260 or R7 260X for like $70-$100.

Frankly after getting your RAM I don't think you will need a new card for Metro Last Light.

[mika]

Ok hows this- How many Fps would I pick-up using 2133mhz ramm vs my 1600mhz ramm? If I can squeeze out an Additional 15-20 Fps I might consider doing it. I dont think this Motherboard is good at all for Overcolocking Btw. I might have to pick-up a new board as well pretty soon.

What about dual-channel 16gb 2133 mhz ramm? Iam not even sure this board will run those speeds but according to the Manual It schould quote on quote even tough Iam having serious doubts.

[Rove]

No idea. I know though that Skyrim wouldn't run properly with only 4GB of RAM at all.

If the board says it will run it will. It's just a BIOS setting. Dual cahnnel 2*8GB DDR3-2133 would be great but it'd cost you more. Still it'd be a better investment than a new temporary GPU since then you'd have ample RAM for your permanent GPU later.

[mika]

Yeah I agree your 100% correct! Iam wondering if MicroCenter carrys 2133mhz ram? The top ive seen there is 1866mhz Amd Radeon Ramm and it costed over $200 dollars for the kit! I was hoping I can find something in the $75-$90 dollar range dont wanna spend any more then that on Ramm.

One more thing just popped in my mind - what about if I do that Dual-graphics thing? Hybrid Crossfire or whatever its called? I think I would need a Radeon R7 250 Correct DDr3 version worls best I read....... 1 gb or 2 gb or it dosent matter>?

[Rove]

I already linked you several $80-$85 DDR3-2133 2*4GB RAM kits in another thread. 2*8GB DDR3-2133 will cost you around $150-$160.

Why don't you use PC Part Picker to find your own?
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/

You can get a R7 260X for $10 more than a R7 250 and the R7 260X will perform better than dual graphics crossfire between the R7 250 & A10-7850K.

[_I_]

instead of spending $150+ on ram, get a $150 gpu
a gtx 750ti will beat any ram you put with the apu

for ram timings are as important as the speed
to compare
speed / cl = value (higher = better)

[Hatman]

Sorry but i can't agree with Rove here. The difference from using DDR3 1600 RAM compared to higher rated RAM is marginable at best. 1600 modules are completely fine, especially in combination with your current parts. And Corsair Veng. modules are quality parts too.

What you do need is
a) more RAM!
and
b) take advantage of dual channel mode.

The easiest solution would be to get another 4GB stick of same brand and model.

EDIT: Back on topic, those GPUs perform very similar. Question of taste really. And both kick the **** out of any integrated chip.

[rotNdude]

I would just lower your video settings and wait until you have the money to get a good video card.

[L0WHAWK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv57qDXpEPU
Watch the above and you will understand the power of the Amd A10 7850k and RAM SPEED.
Awesome results for 720p gaming.... And pretty good at 1080p
The above video uses Battlefield 4 as a benchmark. 80+fps at 720p.. :)

[Hatman]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από L0WHAWK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv57qDXpEPU
Watch the above and you will understand the power of the Amd A10 7850k and RAM SPEED.
Awesome results for 720p gaming.... And pretty good at 1080p
The above video uses Battlefield 4 as a benchmark. 80+fps at 720p.. :)

Well yes, RAM speed becomes much more important if you actually use the integrated solution. But i thought we passed that point. :D

[L0WHAWK]

I just found this video today and was floored by the power of the 7850k's APU power. Seeing as he only had 4gigs of memory,which is WAY to little for anyone wanting any system performance, simply upgrading the ram would be his cheapest solution. Instead of getting more ram and a dedicated video card.. But again, this is just my opinion... :P

[mika]

I can pick-up another 4gb 1600 mhz stick thats not a problem at all, Iam actually debating on Installing Battlefield 4 so I can try Mantle- Ive yet to game on it. I think it offres around 10% improvment on my setup according to the spec sheet.

i dont know what to do about the Video card, I kinda dont wanna wait 2 months ( but have too) iam very tempted to pick something cheep up to run in the mean time but well see?

The i-gpu has a 64-bit Bus, total bandwidth is 12.8GB/s lol- Thats some power for you there huh? I cant even overclcock my i-gpu on this crappy board!

[L0WHAWK]

Overclocking an apu depends on the speed of your system ram. I think. Seeing as the ram speed does play a significant role in the gpu department.. But I could be wrong, as I don't have an apu system myself...