best atx am5 motherboard for 7800x3d

[x]

Im looking at either ASUS AMD ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI or MSI MPG B650 CARBON WIFI.

Im leaning towards the MSI carbon because I prefer the way it looks and Ive heard ROG have had issues with burning chips earlier on in the year but thats probably not an issue anymore. I just want to get the maximum performance from my cpu in terms of overclockability and vrms

Paired with;
r7 7800x3d
RTX 3080
32gb 6000mhz cl30
Gen 4 nvme ssd
arctic liquid freezer ii 420 aio

[C1REX]

You can't realistically overclock the 7800x3D but you can try. The VRM won't be an issue for a CPU that maxes out at 80W (50W while gaming), so all B650 motherboards will perform similarly. If you want to experiment, then opt for the STRIX B650E-E (not E-F), as it offers post-code error and clear CMOS functionality, which is well worth it in my opinion. However, for maximum performance, I recommend the Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 or similar models, priced around $110. It even supports NVMe Gen5 but lacks WiFi. Use the money saved to invest in a better GPU, which will actually improve performance. ASUS motherboards maintain the SoC voltage below 1.3V, which is pretty amazing, so there's nothing to worry about anymore. Just update your BIOS. Currently, it's the only brand that covers EXPO under warranty. The best overclocking motherboards have only two RAM slots as they offer higher stable top speeds, but I wouldn't worry about this with the 7800x3D, as it's not overly sensitive to RAM, and 6000 CL30 is plenty and a known sweet spot. You might just want to hand tune the timings for that extra 0.1% margin of error results. ;)

Also, be very careful when choosing a case. Very few PC cases can fit 420 AIO and especially extra thick one like yours. The Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL is one of the few that fits the AIO on top. You might prefer to mount it on top to avoid compromising GPU cooling.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just pick the brand you prefer, then get the best B560 WIFI Motherboard if you want to have WIFI+BT built in. No need to waste time comparing each Motherboard anymore really.

Make sure to get a decent PSU that can handle future GPU upgrade and also be sure to get a decent CPU Cooler

[Ralf]

I would avoid Asus and Asrock since they burned even the not 3D chips which Steve said they shouldnt, Msi bios is trash, many people complain about coil whine on Gigabyte, Evga is dead, dunno about Nzxt, so that leaves Biostar Colorful Maxsun and Onda.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Ralf:

I would avoid Asus and Asrock since they burned even the not 3D chips which Steve said they shouldnt, Msi bios is trash, many people complain about coil whine on Gigabyte, Evga is dead, dunno about Nzxt, so that leaves Biostar Colorful Maxsun and Onda.

I've recently checked ASUS and they keep SoC voltage at 1.24v with EXPO enabled which is excellent. It's also the only brand that covers EXPO under warranty.
Yes, they messed up but they more than solved the problem.

[emoticorpse]

I would go with the ASUS. I know I've been bashing ASUS in the last couple years because of some USB issue on their boards but I've finally come to the conclusion that the particular issue I still have isn't a problem with their boards imparticular. Embarrassing really. Sorry ASUS, but if you knew the situation you'd probably excuse me for the mistake.

I also like ASUS bios interface better than MSI.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bGfxFT/msi-mag-x670e-tomahawk-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-mag-x670e-tomahawk-wifi

[De Hollandse Ezel]

overal the

ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI
is pretty hard to beat.

when we look at the ideal settings
-4 memory slots
-wifi 6 (ax)
-alc 1220 audiochip
-x670 chipset
-at least 1 m.2 pcie5,0x4 slot

than this board is by far cheaper than all the others at 280 euro.


but if you want the best of the best :
Gigabyte AORUS X670E XTREME

it has 4 m.2 pcie 5.0x4 slots
and it has also support upto 8000mhz ddr (quite rare for amd boards)

but at 700 euro "the best" has it's price.

[Agent]

Great thing about AMD and the x3D chips is they don't require fancy boards to work optimally. You're really just paying for features after that point. So I'd just go with a B650 or B650 E.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

overal the

ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI
is pretty hard to beat.

when we look at the ideal settings
-4 memory slots
-wifi 6 (ax)
-alc 1220 audiochip
-x670 chipset
-at least 1 m.2 pcie5,0x4 slot

than this board is by far cheaper than all the others at 280 euro.


but if you want the best of the best :
Gigabyte AORUS X670E XTREME

it has 4 m.2 pcie 5.0x4 slots
and it has also support upto 8000mhz ddr (quite rare for amd boards)

but at 700 euro "the best" has it's price.

No AMD CPU can do 8000MT/s unfortunately.
It’s very hard even on the best Intel CPUs and only if you are lucky with silicone lottery.
As far as I know it’s only possible on motherboards with 2 dimm slots. 4 slots are slower due to daisy chain connection even if only two of them are occupied. So 2 slots are better than 4 for max speed and stability. Also many motherboards have wrong QVL giving impossible info - like 8000 on 4dimm mobos.

Buildzoid and some other overclockers were talking about this.

https://youtu.be/Q8XLvZTqyX8?si=cxzL4w9N234fO2VU

[Ralf]

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

overal the

ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI
is pretty hard to beat.

Failure rate seem a bit high in one of my local shops 9.3%, it's bigger brother Prime X670E-Pro is 7.7% and Stix X670E-E is 15.2%!

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Ralf:

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

overal the

ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI
is pretty hard to beat.

Failure rate seem a bit high in one of my local shops 9.3%, it's bigger brother Prime X670E-Pro is 7.7% and Stix X670E-E is 15.2%!

I have B650E-E.
You make me worried. Is my model bad as well? How do they fail?

[starfishy]

I have the ASUS B650E-F and i also read alot of information for different mobos and comparisons etc and from what i gathered it was the best mobo at this price point with PCIE 5 support for ssd and future GPU and alot more features which i will probably never use. And the armoury crate software is not as bad as everyone said imo, it recognized all the fans+RGB and set it up automaticly.

Also have the 7800X3D / 32GB 6000 expo enabled RAM and did not update the bios before installing it and it didn't explode so all that burning chips is old news from when am5 got released and also was not only limited to asus mobos. They fixed this in a bios update with voltage caps a long time ago. But it is a rather expensive mobo (blackfriday €230).

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Ralf:

I would avoid Asus and Asrock since they burned even the not 3D chips which Steve said they shouldnt, Msi bios is trash, many people complain about coil whine on Gigabyte, Evga is dead, dunno about Nzxt, so that leaves Biostar Colorful Maxsun and Onda.

They've had bios updates to fix those issues.

What the user needs to do is before you buy ANY Motherboard go on the support page for the exact model of Motherboard and download everything ahead of time would be best to do. At the very least the PDF Manual and latest BIOS update. Soon as you get the board powered up, update to latest bios via USB flash drive.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Originally posted by Ralf:

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

overal the

ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI
is pretty hard to beat.

Failure rate seem a bit high in one of my local shops 9.3%, it's bigger brother Prime X670E-Pro is 7.7% and Stix X670E-E is 15.2%!

after the dramatic chip falure on X99 boards (My asus x99 ws-e board of 600+ euro did also fail after 3 years... cause an errorous made cpi on that board)...
one would thought asus had learned it's lesson...

still boards that fail early on is preferable..
-one has always at least 12 months warranty.. so it's easy to swap any part without any costs in that first year.. after that.. running any rma will cost you..

[Guydodge]

ive always bought the best cpus avaliable possible when i build only made the mistake once
buying a mid range M.B.fact is you get what you pay for.i ended up replacing that M.B
3 months later and never looked back again.get the best M.B you can afford my choice
for my 13900k was the asus rog strix z790e its the link between all your expensive
hardware.why people think this isnt as important or even more so is beyond me.
all the home work i did there were only 2 choices the strix z790 or the MSI mpg z790carbon
both great choices.i like the asus strix b650e-f for AMD