VR Headset that feels 4k?

[Soulreaver]

This might be a dumb way to ask this and maybe what I heard is wrong/outdated but here we go.

I often heard, through immersion, VR Headsets feel like having a way higher resolution than they actualy have. As someone with a TV on his desk I find resolution plays a big factor for immersion.
I used a VR Headset once but that was back in GTX 900 days, but then I found that statement to be true.

So my question would be: What VR resolution feels similarly immersive to 4k although it isn't?

I wouldn't want to spend 2000€ just for a 4k VR-Headset.

[Supafly]

Since no-one else has posted I recommend you ask those that actually own and use VR. Dedicated forum for VR is here

https://steamcommunity.com/app/250820/discussions/

[Arbiter of mediocrity]

I think only the Apple vision Pro has nigh 4k lenses? 3.5k x 3k?

[wing0zero]

My first VR was a Rift DK2 and that was low res by today's standards, I then got a VIVE at launch and that was a good upgrade but still not quite there, then I move to Quest 2 to ditch wires which was a good upgrade again, I'm now on Quest 3 and it's pretty sweet now with the resolution at about 2K per eye in combination with the new pancake lenses.

You can go next step up with BigScreen Beyond v2 which is a tiny light weight unit with 2.5K micro oled per eye and pancake lenses but the unit is about 1K and then you need to buy Valve lighthouses and some controllers and wired so you lose that freedom, I would buy this if they could make a wireless version, just have a battery bank in your pocket.

As for 4K quality, Quest 3 is the first HMD where it's actually pretty decent to watch a movie I thought and would say that's the min level to go for in resolution.

And then you have Pimax but they always seem to have some issue going on so don't entertain them which is a shame as they promise a lot on paper.

Originally posted by Arbiter of mediocrity:

I think only the Apple vision Pro has nigh 4k lenses? 3.5k x 3k?

You can get higher resolution units vs the Vision Pro, Pimax Crystal Super, MeganeX 8K, Varjo XR-4, all just a bit higher though nothing crazy, Pimax is top at 3840x3840.

[Soulreaver]

Originally posted by Supafly:

Since no-one else has posted I recommend you ask those that actually own and use VR. Dedicated forum for VR is here

https://steamcommunity.com/app/250820/discussions/

Thanks didn't even know we had a seperate VR Forum.

Originally posted by wing0zero:

My first VR was a Rift DK2 and that was low res by today's standards, I then got a VIVE at launch and that was a good upgrade but still not quite there, then I move to Quest 2 to ditch wires which was a good upgrade again, I'm now on Quest 3 and it's pretty sweet now with the resolution at about 2K per eye in combination with the new pancake lenses.

You can go next step up with BigScreen Beyond v2 which is a tiny light weight unit with 2.5K micro oled per eye and pancake lenses but the unit is about 1K and then you need to buy Valve lighthouses and some controllers and wired so you lose that freedom, I would buy this if they could make a wireless version, just have a battery bank in your pocket.

As for 4K quality, Quest 3 is the first HMD where it's actually pretty decent to watch a movie I thought and would say that's the min level to go for in resolution.

And then you have Pimax but they always seem to have some issue going on so don't entertain them which is a shame as they promise a lot on paper.

Originally posted by Arbiter of mediocrity:

I think only the Apple vision Pro has nigh 4k lenses? 3.5k x 3k?

You can get higher resolution units vs the Vision Pro, Pimax Crystal Super, MeganeX 8K, Varjo XR-4, all just a bit higher though nothing crazy, Pimax is top at 3840x3840.

Had a look at the Beyond V2. 1400€ for the basemodel and 2 month delivery and then apparently still a lot of accessories to buy.

Something like a Quest 3 seems to be right in my budget.
Wouldn't want to overspend on a VR Headset if I didn't stick with it but also want to give it a fair shot to convince me.

According to some quick and easy research the Quest 3 should also be a good fit with my PC Hardware.
What makes sense as powering 2 x 4k screens at 90fps would probably require an upgrade.

[wing0zero]

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

Had a look at the Beyond V2. 1400€ for the basemodel and 2 month delivery and then apparently still a lot of accessories to buy.

Yeah brilliant device but pricey.

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

Something like a Quest 3 seems to be right in my budget.
Wouldn't want to overspend on a VR Headset if I didn't stick with it but also want to give it a fair shot to convince me.

You can't really beat Quest 3 on value and i wouldn't want to go back to a wired solution, I have a BoBoVR S3 head strap which has a detachable 10000mAh battery, 3 of them with the fast charger and you can game all day in VR if need be, also after using the new pancake lenses I wouldn't entertain one with the old lenses.

For Quest 3 I also recommend buying Virtual Desktop which is better overall for linking to PC vs Steam Link and Meta's Air Link but they are free to use.

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

According to some quick and easy research the Quest 3 should also be a good fit with my PC Hardware.
What makes sense as powering 2 x 4k screens at 90fps would probably require an upgrade.

See you have a 4080, yep nice GPU for VR, games are not that GPU demanding in VR because you hit other bottlenecks, I often notice in VR you hit a wall and my GPU is no where near full use hitting some kind of memory bandwidth limit of something.

Valve have a new VR unit coming soon and I'm pretty sure it will be amazing but also have an amazing price tag.

If you've not heard of it look into UEVR too, that's a program that gets all UE4 4.2+ and UE5 games running in VR, some games are better than others for it naturally.

[Kobs]

It's not the resolution that breaks immersion it's the damn field of view
VR is absolutely awesome but you always feel like you're looking through a scuba mask. Until this is fixed it'll never really feel "real" no matter the resolution

[wing0zero]

Originally posted by Kobs:

It's not the resolution that breaks immersion it's the damn field of view
VR is absolutely awesome but you always feel like you're looking through a scuba mask. Until this is fixed it'll never really feel "real" no matter the resolution

Fine if you only play this...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/

Racing sims are a good fit too as it's like having a helmet on, playing coop games with buds too makes me soon forget about it.

[Kobs]

^^^ This is the ONLY time the scuba mask fits, play any other game HL Alyx, Etc. anything where you need peripheral view you're like a horse with blinds. It's all fun and fine but it's not like reality, peoples have 180 degrees field of view not 110-120

[Soulreaver]

Originally posted by wing0zero:

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

Had a look at the Beyond V2. 1400€ for the basemodel and 2 month delivery and then apparently still a lot of accessories to buy.

Yeah brilliant device but pricey.

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

Something like a Quest 3 seems to be right in my budget.
Wouldn't want to overspend on a VR Headset if I didn't stick with it but also want to give it a fair shot to convince me.

You can't really beat Quest 3 on value and i wouldn't want to go back to a wired solution, I have a BoBoVR S3 head strap which has a detachable 10000mAh battery, 3 of them with the fast charger and you can game all day in VR if need be, also after using the new pancake lenses I wouldn't entertain one with the old lenses.

For Quest 3 I also recommend buying Virtual Desktop which is better overall for linking to PC vs Steam Link and Meta's Air Link but they are free to use.

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

According to some quick and easy research the Quest 3 should also be a good fit with my PC Hardware.
What makes sense as powering 2 x 4k screens at 90fps would probably require an upgrade.

See you have a 4080, yep nice GPU for VR, games are not that GPU demanding in VR because you hit other bottlenecks, I often notice in VR you hit a wall and my GPU is no where near full use hitting some kind of memory bandwidth limit of something.

Valve have a new VR unit coming soon and I'm pretty sure it will be amazing but also have an amazing price tag.

If you've not heard of it look into UEVR too, that's a program that gets all UE4 4.2+ and UE5 games running in VR, some games are better than others for it naturally.

Thanks a lot. I will probably order the Quest 3 and go from there.

If I like it I can always see how I can further improve the experience.

Had a look at Virtual Desktop. Don't know yet about its improvement for steam connection but in general it seems more like a tool to emulate a desktop experience. As I have a huge new HDR TV on my desk that seems redundant.

But that's something I will look further into once I bought the Quest.

[wing0zero]

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

Had a look at Virtual Desktop. Don't know yet about its improvement for steam connection but in general it seems more like a tool to emulate a desktop experience. As I have a huge new HDR TV on my desk that seems redundant.

It can give you a virtual desktop but it's so much more, firstly you would want the one in the Quest store not Steam and then you have to download a desktop client from their website.

The Steam store one is pretty much dead software, if you watch any VR stuff on YouTube they all use VDesk for Quest and so do most users from my experience, not that the other two are bad there just nowhere near as good.

You have far more options with VDesk for setting things up, for example for encoding you can pick H264, H264+, HEVC, HEVC 10bit or if you have a 40/50 series GPU AV1 10bit, you also have a slider for bit rate, I use AV1 10bit max bit rate.

I also connect to a 6GHz router for max connection speed to the unit.

Some pretty fun standalone stuff for Quest too, ports like Doom 3 and a ton of stuff from side loading stuff too, popular tool called SideQuest.