RTX 5060 TI 16 gb, will it be like Pascal GTX 1060 6gb in past Steam hardware podium?

[Burgundy_β]

third gen graphic card for PS5 era. Is it enough for futureproof next crossgen (PS5-PS6) as a sub-200 watt midrange card?

first 3 Nvidia graphic card generation in PS4 era: GTX 700, 900, Pascal 10-series.

GTX 1060 6gb: the most popular graphic card in PS4 era Steam hardware stats. Slightly better than GTX 970, previous Steam hardware podium. I could play Marvel Rivals around 60-80 fps.

first 3 Nvidia in PS5 generation: RTX 3000, 4000, 5000 series.
5060 ti 16 gb was slightly below RTX 4070 performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm_jBwaLeuA

[Monk]

Only time will tell, with no indication of next gen consoles hardware levels.

Safest bet is to begin setting aside 5 bucks a week so you have the cash sitting there to upgrade each generation tbh, plus you'll get to reclaim likely 50% of the cost when you sell the previous gpu.

You cannot really future proof anything, as time goes on graphic fidelity develops that requires more power or in the fixed hardware of consoles, they simply lower settings vs what is possible, so you either upgrade or do the same.

[Burgundy_β]

Only time will tell, with no indication of next gen consoles hardware levels.

PS2 (38mb RAM) -> PS3 (512 mb): 13x memory
PS3 -> PS4 (8 gb): around 16x
PS4 -> PS5 (16gb shared RAM) : 2 times, small progress. Moore's law got slowed down when transistors are reaching the size of atoms, plus global politics.

[fourfourtwo79]

Depends. The RTX 1060 was "just" 60-90% behind the GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti respectively.

The 5060Ti is 90 - 160% behind the RTX 5080 and RTX 5090. It's just a good ~30-40% ahead of the old 3060 Ti too in terms of raw rendering power on average. And the 3060 Ti is roughly the level of hardware installed in the PS5.


Prices may still be relatively stable for the 60 series. However, you're paying this with cuts made to those cards, in relative terms to the higher end. There are some really small chips on those cards now, and memory interface is also no more than 128 bit. As Digital Foundry put it: "More performance means more cost now."


However, consoles are affected as well, see the prices of PS5 Pro, Switch 2, and even PS5 not having a significant price cut in now half a decade since launch. And Pascal's longevity was in big parts due to consoles big time influencing what gets be made. In particular on the graphical blockbuster front. tl;dr: Much will depend on what the PS6 is gonna look like.

[Monk]

Nguyên văn bởi Burgundy_β:

Only time will tell, with no indication of next gen consoles hardware levels.

PS2 (38mb RAM) -> PS3 (512 mb): 13x memory
PS3 -> PS4 (8 gb): around 16x
PS4 -> PS5 (16gb shared RAM) : 2 times, small progress. Moore's law got slowed down when transistors are reaching the size of atoms, plus global politics.

..... What?

Ammount of ram has nothing to do with moores law, thry could fit 2TB of ram if they wanted, it just is not needed so would be a monstrous waste.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just get a better GPU those are going to be junk.

A 3080 Ti are cheap enough

[bossman150]

Nguyên văn bởi Bad 💀 Motha:

Just get a better GPU those are going to be junk.

A 3080 Ti are cheap enough

You must not be in the US. Used 3080 ti's are going for $500+

[Bad 💀 Motha]

And how much is a 5060 Ti new going to be for you?

[Monk]

Nguyên văn bởi Bad 💀 Motha:

And how much is a 5060 Ti new going to be for you?

400 bucks.

Im waiting on one to be delivered fir my htpc.

[Tonepoet]

First, a GTX 970 is better than a 1050 ti. It's closer to a 1060 3 gig variant.

Second, I'm tempted to refund my 5070 (since I haven't opened it) and buy a 5060 ti 16 gig., but I'm probably not going to bother with that since I bought the 5070 at M.S.R.P. and it's looking like that's not going to be easy for the 5060 ti, especially when tariffs hit.

The current state of the market is get your hands on whatever you can get.

Regarding which card will be regarded like the 1050 ti was this generation, I think it's going to be the B580. It has its problems but it's still a good card for the price.

Nguyên văn bởi Bad 💀 Motha:

Just get a better GPU those are going to be junk.

A 3080 Ti are cheap enough

If you can get a 5060 ti for M.S.R.P. it'll be $70 cheaper and has 4 more gigs. of V.R.A.M. which looks to be important in some titles like Indiana Jones & The Great Circle, where a 5060 Ti can beat a 5070 handidly because of it.

It's only about 5% weaker than a 3080, so more like 10-15% weaker than a 3080 ti.

Given that a 3080 ti regularly sells around $500 on ebay, I'd say $430 is an okay price for the 5060 t 16 gigi. 'course the problem is that they're selling for more than that...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

LOL I'm sorry... WHAT?!

Hmm no my 3080 Ti is sitting right up there with 4070 Ti and 9700 XT while a 5060 Ti can not even come close to a 3070, which is sad.

https://youtu.be/Cskegn1-D7s?t=361

16GB VRAM doesn't make up for lack of RAW power.

Now if a 5060 Ti was close to a 3080 or 3080 Ti; which you'd think it would and should be given it's 2 Gens later, that would be very good, especially considering much less power draw. But in reality, they are just a big turd.

At that rate you might as well just go grab a 3060 12GB for around $200 or maybe some variant of 4060 if you can get them cheap enough.

[Monk]

While the 3080ti is the stronger card (by a decent margin) you are paying for it.

Though this is with the 5060ti st Nero, if it's more than a second hand 3080ti, go for that.

Im getting the 5060ti becayse it's size and low power usage as a 3080ti won't fit in the case (the reason why I haven't just used my old 3090).

[Monk]

Nguyên văn bởi Bad 💀 Motha:

LOL I'm sorry... WHAT?!

Hmm no my 3080 Ti is sitting right up there with 4070 Ti and 9700 XT while a 5060 Ti can not even come close to a 3070, which is sad.

https://youtu.be/Cskegn1-D7s?t=361

16GB VRAM doesn't make up for lack of RAW power.

Now if a 5060 Ti was close to a 3080 or 3080 Ti; which you'd think it would and should be given it's 2 Gens later, that would be very good, especially considering much less power draw. But in reality, they are just a big turd.

At that rate you might as well just go grab a 3060 12GB for around $200 or maybe some variant of 4060 if you can get them cheap enough.

Unless the game has MFG, then the 5060ti will likely catch up nicely.

Lots don't like buying second hand cards, especially if that generation as so many will be ex mining cards (not that it makes a difference honestly), but people like having warranties.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Here, the results have been updated for RTX 5060 Ti 8GB and 16GB as of April 16

https://www.notebookcheck.net/RTX-5060-Ti-8-GB-suffers-up-to-30-lower-1-lows-and-18-slower-Frame-Generation-vs-16-GB-model.1000540.0.html

[Papa Setnov]

still hard finding it on a MSRP price.

[fourfourtwo79]

Nguyên văn bởi Bad 💀 Motha:

Just get a better GPU those are going to be junk.

As big PC exclusives are as dead as Wing Commander, Strike Commander and Ultima: Longevity depends on the specs of the next console generation. The PS5 Pro is hardly high end, still based on Zen2 from 2019, and still costs basically double of the base PS5. Which in turn hasn't seen any significant price cut in half a decade since launch, as silicon die shrinks don't cut costs anymore. So, about that PS6 in such an environment...


Higher end PC graphics hardware is on another level though. Expect the RTX 4090/5090 to be longer in use than the 1080 Ti more recent. https://www.techspot.com/review/2833-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-revisit/ It's on another level in terms of prices too though. ;-)