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It's a number I've seen on occasion. Looks like it's not fully accurate. Still, you are vastly underestimating the 5060 ti.
You're looking at 4k results for just one game. I don't think anybody's buying a 5060 ti to play at 4k, and the 3080 scales better at higher resolutions based on the last time I checked the Tom's Hardware G.P.U. hierarchy, whereas the 5060 ti scales worse at higher resolutions looking at these Gamer's Nexus numbers.
In any case, I don't think anybody is buying a 5060 ti to play games at 4k, and we go by aggregate average to get a general idea of how strong cards are relative to one another because some games favor a card more than others.
With the B580 being unobtanium at M.S.R.P. value, and also having that driver overhead issue, the 5060 ti is basically the only brand new card you might consider to play games at 1080p, and when we check over the Gamer's Nexus 1080p rasterization numbers we get the following results:
Gamer's Nexus also tested Res. Evil 4, but not at 1080p.
We're saying the 5060 ti is only 8.53% weaker than the RTX 3080, and a fair bit stronger than the 3070 ti based on these results.
If we cross reference the 3070 ti versus the 5060 ti in the five games cross-tested then the 5060 ti has an average F.P.S. of 104.76, whereas the 3070 ti only scores 94.7, and we're saying the 3070 ti is 9.6% weaker, so a 5060 ti falls squarely between a 3070 ti and a 3080 ti at 1080p.
I haven't gone over the 1440p raster numbers in detail but in Black Myth Wukong the 3070 ti gets 50.2 F.P.S., the 5060 ti gets 55.6 and the 3080 gets 60.1., so I'm guessing it would be largely the same story if I did. The 5060 ti is 7.5% weaker than the 3080, and 9.8% stronger than the 3070 ti.
Plus what you're saying about the 3060 is nonsense. It's a considerably weaker card. In fact, I feel as if the entire introduction of the Gamer's Nexus Article[gamersnexus.net] is of relevance to this discussion:
Worth noting is that a 3060 ti, even with just 8 gigs. of V.R.A.M., is significantly stronger than a 12 gig. 3060.
In Summary, G.N. is claiming it is a much stronger card than the 3060, and somewhere around the perf of a 3080 or a 3070 ti in that game.
In terms of 1080p ray tracing perf, I don't want to get into the detailed numbers, but the 5060 ti usually not far behind the 3080, and in Black Myth Wukong it manages to beat the 3090 and the 9070 XT.
I really don't even get where you're getting the idea that the RTX 3070 is stronger than the 5060 ti. In the chart you timestamped, the 3070 ranks immediately below the 5060 ti (48.3 vs 52.3 respectively). The 3070 ti pulls ahead at 57.6 F.P.S. at this resolution, but again, I don't think we're buying this card for 4k.
The 5060 ti 16 gig. variant looks like a fine enough card for its perf. threshold to me, provided you can actually get it at the $430 price.
With the 5060ti specifically have mfg it could make a very large impact in supported games and is part of the hardware we are all paying for and a sign of progress.
It's one thing I am genuinely looking forward to trying out, even if the sort of games with it are not the games I'd run on the system.
They don't skip over upscaling and frame gen. They give extensive coverage to those things. Well, at least video reviews do anyway.
It should also be noted that frame gen. and interpolation don't necessarily give very consistent results, so it can be difficult to make an objective comparison Raw. perf. is much more consistent.
How they behave is one thing that should be discussed in reviews, the more raw power approach will hit a limit to what people will pay, sadly, so ai techniques are the future of graphical development, atleast until we move off of silicon.
Would be quite sad if it weren't, as the RTX 3060 could be had for ~250 (new), and the 5060 Ti is basically up to double of that. I think what he meant with the 3060 is that it's still a viable entry, in particular if you can find it cheap enough (he was quoting used market prices clearly). DLSS4 has thrown it another lifeline, even for 1440p.
Generally, the entry level is still pretty stagnant. The 3060Ti was a 399 MSRP card half a decade ago. Intel's Arc B580 too could at best roughly match that years later. Now you're getting a ~30-40% raw performance uplift over that. A RTX 5090 meanwhile is basically double of what the RTX 3090 used to be. But as said, that's how they keep prices stable: the smallest of chips, 128bit memory interfaces when it used to be 192, smallest PCBs, 8 PCIE lanes (some impact on older boards) etc. You're paying the same as back then, but you're getting less -- in relative terms. Not confident that the RX 9060(XT) is gonna do more. Ditto smaller GPUs still to come. Much more performance means more cost now.
Still, Sony is unlikely to want an even bigger price tag on the PS6 than on the PS5 Pro as well. And as argued in this thread, in a multiplatform blockbuster market as ours, the specs of the PS6 are gonna influence how long PC hardware is gonna last. It's obviously gonna be much better equipped once it arrives -- but by how much? Base PS5 is roughly RX 6700/3060Ti levels of hardware. Some are even still using a 1080 Ti, which is roughly onpar to a 3060 non-Ti, but cannot run RT games (Indiana Jones, upcoming Doom).
It is not so powerful for the price, like all the latest nvidia cards.
With massive price drops, then maybe.
I a have an RTX 3080 10GB , which is quite old. From that, it is not worth the "upgrade""
The RTX 9070 XT seems more likely to eventually be on the steam top GPU list.
If you are on a couple generations old the 5060ti is not a bad card and at £400, comparatively, the price isn't too bad either.
The 9060xt may take the 'top spot' now it can also handle raytracing, but, just like the 9070xt vs 5070ti, id say it will come down to price and performance, if it's the same price and performance the 5060ti wins, if it's faster or a decent but cheaper, it's AMD's win (I say this as nvidia still has the edge in upscaling, frame gen and extra features, all be it by a much smaller margin than before.
Really a competitive 60 and 70 level cards from both sides are best for the consumer seeing as they are the most popular models.
Who really knows.
The 9070 XT seems to selling extremely well. If fsr 4 get a lot of support, will likely continue.
It is the best band for the the buck for now.
The crowd who just want the best, have got their RTX 5080/90/70 ti already.
Who cares about the RTX 5070 12GGB- the lost child of GPU gaming.
Nvidia is offering dismal value for money on all it 5000 cards.
The second hand market is a better choice compared to the RTX 5060 ti.
It the prices drops quite a bit, it may do well.
The new 'features'of the new 50000 cards are basically locked down software tied to specific hardware.
will RTX 5060ti, third gen gpu for PS5 generation, overtakes GTX 1060 6gb Steam hardware long standing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMau932oKW8
At £400, the 5060ti 16GB is fairly good if you are only looking at new (the models much above that are daft, the £500+ models are just stupid!), or like me you are after its small size and expect the 5050 to not be that much cheaper but notably slower, but until the 9060xt lands, we won't really know if it's a good value or not (for a new card).
You forgot about the 20 series which while not much of a raw performance gain (other than the 2080ti), it did introduce Ray tracing.
But, yeah x/xx60 series is always the market leader, I think the 4060 has just overtaken the 3060 recently.