Games system requirements and RTX 4050?

[Str3lok]

Do games on Steam show desktop GPUs or laptop GPUs in system requirements? If it's desktop GPUs, how can I know if my laptop GPU 4050 can run games? Also, why so much hate for RTX 4050 laptop GPU card? All I see on Youtube benchmarks and on the net is that it can run every single game without too much issues.

[nullable]

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Do games on Steam show desktop GPUs or laptop GPUs in system requirements?

Is the stated CPU a desktop CPU or laptop CPU? If a desktop CPU, unless otherwise stated you would default to desktop GPU.

In general the system requirements are extremely biased to desktop hardware.

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If it's desktop GPUs, how can I know if my laptop GPU 4050 can run games?

In general if the system requirements state a 4050 or equivalent desktop GPU you should be OK with a laptop 4050. Yeah it's a bit less powerful. But the minimum requirements are generally not a floor where anything less the game will not run. There's usually lots of room before you get to that point. Very often minimum requirements are just the limit the developer wants to support, and/or the limit they think provides the experience they want to provide.

You can also often look up X game + Y hardware on youtube and get a decent idea how a game will perform, there's lots of performance videos.

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Also, why so much hate for RTX 4050 laptop GPU card? All I see on Youtube benchmarks and on the net is that it can run every single game without too much issues.

Lower end/entry level hardware often gets raked over the coals. And there's often lots of things to criticize and nitpick compared to more capable hardware. People who have opinions about hardware often aren't dreaming about 4050's and the like.

You look at the bottom card in any generation and it's going to be middling at best as far as its treatment goes.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

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Do games on Steam show desktop GPUs or laptop GPUs in system requirements? If it's desktop GPUs, how can I know if my laptop GPU 4050 can run games? Also, why so much hate for RTX 4050 laptop GPU card? All I see on Youtube benchmarks and on the net is that it can run every single game without too much issues.

You go to techpowerup and view the GPU heirarchy.

People are mad because you can play the same games as their high-end system, only they wasted money and you didn't. Simple as that. You might be running lower graphics, but so what? If you're not a hardware simp with an unhealthy fetish for slimy, blurry graphics with no value proposition, don't worry what they say

[Monk]

The laptop versions are less powerful than their desktop cousins, not sure how the 4050 stacks up, but I'd expect around 3060 performance level.

As to why people hate on the low tier cards, mostly ignorance I suspect.

I've long since argued there is nothing I've tried on my 4090 that I cannot get to run on my 3050 8GB at acceptable fps, just, much lower settings obviously.

[C1REX]

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The laptop versions are less powerful than their desktop cousins, not sure how the 4050 stacks up, but I'd expect around 3060 performance level.

4050 mobile is slithly weaker than 3050 8GB desktop version unfortunately.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4050-mobile.c3953

Desktop 3060 12GB is 42% stronger.

[Monk]

OH wow, I was way off.

That'll teach me for not checking before commenting (which I usually do), though, the rest of my reply is still true enough.

[_I_]

its performance can vary widely, from the 50w to the 115w variants if the laptop can handle it

the 115w 4060 mobile is about 25% stronger, but still around a 2060 super or ti

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You can use sites like NotebookCheck.net which can show how various Laptop specs (CPU + GPU) will stack up against Desktop configs, along with the performance of various games.

But yes just because one Laptop has an RTX 4050, they are not all the same. They can vary in max power and also which CPU the Laptop has will also be a performance related factor as well.

[xSOSxHawkens]

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Do games on Steam show desktop GPUs or laptop GPUs in system requirements? If it's desktop GPUs, how can I know if my laptop GPU 4050 can run games? .

Destop is generally what is listed.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4050-mobile.c3953

Your GPU is roughly comparable to a desktop GTX-1660 Super or GTX-1070

So when you are looking at system requirements you can use those two as fill in cards for yoru performance generally. You can also check the GPU heirarchy list at that link for the GPU the game devs list to see if you are above or below it. As long as you are no lower than maybe 10% below the required card you probably have a chance at playing the game title. Just make sure on fringe cases like that to get some actual gameplay in during the 2 hour refund window so that if a specific game is not very playable you can simply r/q a refund.

[Ralf]

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RTX 4050 laptop can run every single game without too much issues.

That a bit of a stretch, no?

[_I_]

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Първоначално публикувано от Str3lok:

RTX 4050 laptop can run every single game without too much issues.

That a bit of a stretch, no?

he would need to define 'too much issues'
and 'run'

those do not always mean playable, or 30+fps, or even at 480p or higher

[Str3lok]

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That a bit of a stretch, no?

he would need to define 'too much issues'
and 'run'

those do not always mean playable, or 30+fps, or even at 480p or higher

Which games currently do not run on 30+ fps or even at 480p? I'm not saying as I disagree, but I am interested in which games which 4050 can't run? I wasn't doing extensive research and I do not need 4050 to run everything (I actually wanted to go with 3050 but it's much harder to find in my place). It's just I'm interested in what games are those as all I'm hearing is that 4050 sucks, it has too little VRAM and on other hand I checked couple of benchmarks on youtube with 4050 laptops running everything on 1080p at least on low details.

[C1REX]

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Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

he would need to define 'too much issues'
and 'run'

those do not always mean playable, or 30+fps, or even at 480p or higher

Which games currently do not run on 30+ fps or even at 480p? I'm not saying as I disagree, but I am interested in which games which 4050 can't run? I wasn't doing extensive research and I do not need 4050 to run everything (I actually wanted to go with 3050 but it's much harder to find in my place). It's just I'm interested in what games are those as all I'm hearing is that 4050 sucks, it has too little VRAM and on other hand I checked couple of benchmarks on youtube with 4050 laptops running everything on 1080p at least on low details.

The good thing about weaker GPUs is that you can always adjust settings. So you can still play the most demanding games if you are willing to adjust settings.
Something that you wouldn’t be able to do most of the time with CPU bottleneck.

https://youtu.be/8u9bkwPuWZI?si=A1V66HO8BGdZKKMr

https://youtu.be/GHEU52QiPNM?si=kElvOzPAwFCfwE8F

[xSOSxHawkens]

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Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

he would need to define 'too much issues'
and 'run'

those do not always mean playable, or 30+fps, or even at 480p or higher

Which games currently do not run on 30+ fps or even at 480p? I'm not saying as I disagree, but I am interested in which games which 4050 can't run? I wasn't doing extensive research and I do not need 4050 to run everything (I actually wanted to go with 3050 but it's much harder to find in my place). It's just I'm interested in what games are those as all I'm hearing is that 4050 sucks, it has too little VRAM and on other hand I checked couple of benchmarks on youtube with 4050 laptops running everything on 1080p at least on low details.

Realistically there are really no current games which wont run. Havey titles will need to be at lower settings and 1080p or maybe even 720p/900p via dlss, but the games will all run. The 1660 Super and 1070 are still plenty servicable cards for 1080p use, and you get full DLSS and RT, along with all newer tech outside of 5k exclusive, so you will be fine.