Build questions

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What you all think is a really good Motherboard for 9800X3D?

I've just been a little out of touch lately. Too busy with other things and not on the up-and-up with these B850 and X870/890 boards.

My friend who wants this new PC build would like to be able to use at least 3x M2 and at least 2x SATA ports

So keep that in mind.
Is the B850 boards capable enough for this?

Full ATX only since most Micro ATX for Ryzen are rubbish.

Asus or MSI only please.

[¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™]

Tomhawk as always is the best bang for the buck, also got the top CPU benchmark on the Hardware Unboxed X870 roundup, I've got the MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk for my 9800X3D, before that I had the MSI MAG B550 Tomhawk with a 5800X3D.

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[¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™]

You can get a B850 Tomahawk but where I am the X870 was only £20/30 more.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's going to handle an RTX 4090 + 3x PCIE 4.0 SSDs + a couple SATA drives all at same time?

[¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™]

Sure in mine I have a 5090, 2 Gen5 M.2 Drives, 1 Gen4 + 1Gen3

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and two 8TB HD's for games back up

[Bad 💀 Motha]

So 870E then?
I'm guessing B850 not enough?

[¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™]

No it's not the X870E they cost a lot more, I didn't need the extra features, I think you can run 4 gen5 M.2 drives on them, might get away with the B850 but like I said it was so close in price might as well go X870 so I suppose it depends on the pricing where you are.

Here is my build which was the best for the money without going silly.
Antec Flux PRO
MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK
Ryzen 9800X3D + CM ML360 ATMOS with Phanteks T30 Fans
MSI Ventus RTX™ 5090 32GB
Corsair Vengeance 64GB 6000MHz CL30
1TB Crucial T700 Gen5 + 2TB Crucial T700 Gen5 +
2TB Crucial P310 Gen4 + 4TB Crucial P3 Gen3 + 2x8TB HD
4x18TB External Storage
1200W ASUS ROG Platinum

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Tomahawk B850 gets KitGuru best budget board

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[Alice Liddell]

ASRock, I will always recommend ASRock.

[smokerob79]

going past 2 M.2 drives start sharing lanes with something on most 870 boards......870E have a lot less sharing problems when using that many M.2 drives......but they really start around the 300 dollar range......

[¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™]

Originally posted by smokerob79:

going past 2 M.2 drives start sharing lanes with something on most 870 boards......870E have a lot less sharing problems when using that many M.2 drives......but they really start around the 300 dollar range......

9800X3D runs the GPU and the two Gen5 M.2 drives, the other 2 M.2 drives will run at Gen4 full speed unless you populate the other PCIe slots, you get a few options in BIOS for setting things to whatever Gen/speed, you don't get problems but lanes cut to lower speeds, I think if you use all the board PCI slots you lose a M.2 drive.

You can see I run 4 M.2 drives just fine.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Alice Liddell:

ASRock, I will always recommend ASRock.

I agree when it comes to Ryzen. However you can never find the good ones in stock and they are like $399+

[Alice Liddell]

I like the looks of this MSI Tomahawk lineup, I was looking at them before but now I would suggest the X-series model.

[AbedsBrother]

Early in the AM5 release cycle, when X3D chips were having some issues, Gigabyte was one of the few (only?) board-makers who had additional failsafes in the circuitry to prevent the system shorting out from cpu failure. Aorus boards, anyway. Not that it matters now since the issues are fixed afaik, but thought that was significant.

Last Gigabyte board I purchased was a B450 Aorus. Still works fine with an oc'd Ryzen 2700. I usually go for Asrock or MSI tho.

[smokerob79]

Originally posted by ¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™:

Originally posted by smokerob79:

going past 2 M.2 drives start sharing lanes with something on most 870 boards......870E have a lot less sharing problems when using that many M.2 drives......but they really start around the 300 dollar range......

9800X3D runs the GPU and the two Gen5 M.2 drives, the other 2 M.2 drives will run at Gen4 full speed unless you populate the other PCIe slots, you get a few options in BIOS for setting things to whatever Gen/speed, you don't get problems but lanes cut to lower speeds, I think if you use all the board PCI slots you lose a M.2 drive.

You can see I run 4 M.2 drives just fine.

yeah i dont need to see anything.....the CPU only has 28 PCI lanes.....4 are taken for the south bridge.....you have 24 total lanes that means 2 drives before speeds are messed with......you missed the fact you are losing speed on something like your 40gb usb C channel as that is the first place most of them take bandwidth


you have one AM5 build.....im over 60 in the last 2 years......i have used 15 870 boards out of the 60 total builds.....

no matter what you do without being on a 870e board your losing bandwidth even if you dont know it.....