Do you prefer an air cooler or an AIO?

[gwwak]

Air for me. They are cheaper and perhaps the most important, it fits my case. My case is old and it doesn't support an AIO larger than 120mm.

[The_Abortionator]

_I_ lähetti viestin:

this can beat a 240mm aio, and its still $35
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

Theres a difference between beating "a 240mm AIO" and beating "240mm AIO".

yeah, sure crappy water coolers exist but it literally tops out at 265 TDP while even 240mm AIOs hit 280w to 300w.

[The_Abortionator]

For water to make sense over air you need parts that will saturate the loop enough to see a difference or have A LOT of rad area.

The hotter the PC part the more of a difference you'll see using water over air.

All that being said I use top end parts so I use water cooling.

[D. Flame]

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

For water to make sense over air you need parts that will saturate the loop enough to see a difference or have A LOT of rad area.

The hotter the PC part the more of a difference you'll see using water over air.

All that being said I use top end parts so I use water cooling.

I am using a Noctua NH-D15 (black) air cooler with a 14600K (on a full sized ATX board), and I am happy with the results. And that is with a single fan orientation.

[bossman150]

I have never used water/aio always used air. Thought about it hard this time but went with air again.

[spicy little monkey]

Karumati lähetti viestin:

spicy little monkey lähetti viestin:

Prone to leaks, very expensive, and not worth the effort.

looks great, temps lower.
in my opinion totally worth it.

Most people will not be able to make it look good, especially not their first time.

[The_Abortionator]

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

For water to make sense over air you need parts that will saturate the loop enough to see a difference or have A LOT of rad area.

The hotter the PC part the more of a difference you'll see using water over air.

All that being said I use top end parts so I use water cooling.

I am using a Noctua NH-D15 (black) air cooler with a 14600K (on a full sized ATX board), and I am happy with the results. And that is with a single fan orientation.

Thats not really a counter to anything I said just how you feel about it......

[The_Abortionator]

spicy little monkey lähetti viestin:

Karumati lähetti viestin:

nothing beats custom water loop

Prone to leaks, very expensive, and not worth the effort.

They arent prone to leaks nor does custom loops have to be expensive.

Not sure what makes people think a loop that can handle dozens of PSI magically decides to leak.

If you don't understand something that has zero bearing on the reality surrounded said thing.

[D. Flame]

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

spicy little monkey lähetti viestin:

Prone to leaks, very expensive, and not worth the effort.

They arent prone to leaks nor does custom loops have to be expensive.

Not sure what makes people think a loop that can handle dozens of PSI magically decides to leak.

If you don't understand something that has zero bearing on the reality surrounded said thing.

They are prone to leaks, that's why builders check for leaks as one of their final steps of a build.

[The_Abortionator]

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

They arent prone to leaks nor does custom loops have to be expensive.

Not sure what makes people think a loop that can handle dozens of PSI magically decides to leak.

If you don't understand something that has zero bearing on the reality surrounded said thing.

They are prone to leaks, that's why builders check for leaks as one of their final steps of a build.

You're not making any sense. you'll literally saying they're prone to leaks which suggest spontaneously leaking.

Then you claim they check for leaks which is done to insure it was assembled correctly which is a human error issue.

By your logic air coolers are prone to over heating your CPU because its possible to attach them incorrectly.

Do you see how ridiculous that is?

[D. Flame]

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

They are prone to leaks, that's why builders check for leaks as one of their final steps of a build.

You're not making any sense. you'll literally saying they're prone to leaks which suggest spontaneously leaking.

Wrong. Nothing implies "spontaneous." That is just a No True Scotsman fallacy.

Even experienced builders check them for leaks because they are prone to leaks. Even a skilled builder can not guarantee that their build will not be leak free on the first try, so they have to test them.

[The_Abortionator]

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

You're not making any sense. you'll literally saying they're prone to leaks which suggest spontaneously leaking.

Wrong. Nothing implies "spontaneous." That is just a No True Scotsman fallacy.

Even experienced builders check them for leaks because they are prone to leaks. Even a skilled builder can not guarantee that their build will not be leak free on the first try, so they have to test them.

Bro you seem to not understand English.

Saying "they are prone to leaks" literally implies they can leaks spontaneously. Thats what that means in the English language.

What you are describing as your definition is literally "they can leak if not assembled correctly".

That meaning is completely different to "prone to leaking".

And also you seem to not understand what no true scotsman means.

I'm not modifying your claim, I'm pointing out the meaning of the words you typed and what it is suggesting.

Someone building a loop incorrectly IS NOT cooling loops being prone to leaking because if you claim human error makes loops prone to leaking then that applies to ANYTHING a human assembles.

[D. Flame]

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

Wrong. Nothing implies "spontaneous." That is just a No True Scotsman fallacy.

Even experienced builders check them for leaks because they are prone to leaks. Even a skilled builder can not guarantee that their build will not be leak free on the first try, so they have to test them.

Bro you seem to not understand English.

Saying "they are prone to leaks" literally implies they can leaks spontaneously. Thats what that means in the English language.

Show me any definition of, "prone," from a reliable English dictionary that includes the condition of, "being spontaneous," in the definition. I'll wait.

[The_Abortionator]

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

Bro you seem to not understand English.

Saying "they are prone to leaks" literally implies they can leaks spontaneously. Thats what that means in the English language.

Show me any definition of, "prone," from a reliable English dictionary that includes the condition of, "being spontaneous," in the definition. I'll wait.

Except you didnt say "Prone." all by itself, you said "Prone to leak". Thats a full idea not a word.

I'm not here you teach you 3rd grade English.

You said something incorrect and I called you out, if you don't understand thats not my problem.

I've already explained it in the simplest terms and it flew right over your head.

[D. Flame]

The_Abortionator lähetti viestin:

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

Show me any definition of, "prone," from a reliable English dictionary that includes the condition of, "being spontaneous," in the definition. I'll wait.

Except you didnt say "Prone." all by itself, you said "Prone to leak". Thats a full idea not a word.

Words typically aren't used alone, lol. Prone still has a definition, one that you are not familiar with it seems, because it never includes spontaneous in any definition that I have seen.

[A&A]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/be-prone-to

Sort yourselves out :)