Some news about the Nvidia 5060? :: Hardware and Operating Systems

Headpats ( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`) Mar 2 @ 7:34am

Not yet but I don't think you will have to wait long

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Rod Mar 2 @ 7:54am

Its the 5060 16gb you want i bet the first 5060s have 8-12gb of ram and the 5060ti 16gb being the decent card and that one would be 2026.

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Illusion of Progress Mar 2 @ 8:58am

Originally posted by Rod:
Its the 5060 16gb you want i bet the first 5060s have 8-12gb of ram and the 5060ti 16gb being the decent card and that one would be 2026.

No, it's not going to come that late. The Ti has typically been a launch SKU for the x60 and x70 for a while now (to disguise the fact that these lower end chips are overnamed). The Ti is no longer the refresh it used to be. That's now the Super. The RTX 5060 Ti is most likely coming within the next number of months, not next year.

It's also unlikely that there will be a 12 GB variant at all, at least at first. To do so right now would require a 192-bit bus, which is unlikely given the trends of nVidia's recent (and current partial) lineups, or mixed memory, which is even less likely as it would have negatively performance impacts (the last time nVidia did this was with the GTX 550/GTX 660). The RTX 3060 had 12 GB because it was actually 192-bit. The RTX 4060 cut the x60 SKU down to its current "x50 overnamed" spot, and so far the RTX 50 series is literally echoing everything about the RTX 40 series. So if the RTX 5060 also has a 128-bit bus (it will...), this limits it to either 8 GB RAM or 16 GB RAM.

Where it may get interesting is a little further from now when 3 GB chips become available. GPUs are currently using 2 GB chips (so an RTX 4060 uses four 2 GB chips, with each one connected to a 32-bit bus). So with 3 GB chips, you get the option for 50% more RAM. That would make a 128-bit graphics card 12 GB (192-bit which is currently 12 GB becomes 18 GB, etc.). So the hypothetical Super refresh, which might return for the x60 SKU this generation, could increase VRAM to 12 GB (they'd probably skip on offering a 24 GB variant since the only reason the upper variant is needed is because they know the lesser one with 8 GB is seen as not enough in the mid-2020s). But, this all depends on how generous nVidia wants to be, and how competitive AMD is.

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Carlsberg Mar 2 @ 9:03am

The only one that matters is the 5090 and its too expensive to be anything but an enthusiasts choice. The rest have been cut down to save cost which means they are just not worth the price tag, Unless you really want the very latest underperforming technology, save your money.

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BOBTOMAS Mar 2 @ 9:15am

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:
Originally posted by Rod:
Its the 5060 16gb you want i bet the first 5060s have 8-12gb of ram and the 5060ti 16gb being the decent card and that one would be 2026.
No, it's not going to come that late. The Ti has typically been a launch SKU for the x60 and x70 for a while now (to disguise the fact that these lower end chips are overnamed). The Ti is no longer the refresh it used to be. That's now the Super. The RTX 5060 Ti is most likely coming within the next number of months, not next year.

It's also unlikely that there will be a 12 GB variant at all, at least at first. To do so right now would require a 192-bit bus, which is unlikely given the trends of nVidia's recent (and current partial) lineups, or mixed memory, which is even less likely as it would have negatively performance impacts (the last time nVidia did this was with the GTX 550/GTX 660). The RTX 3060 had 12 GB because it was actually 192-bit. The RTX 4060 cut the x60 SKU down to its current "x50 overnamed" spot, and so far the RTX 50 series is literally echoing everything about the RTX 40 series. So if the RTX 5060 also has a 128-bit bus (it will...), this limits it to either 8 GB RAM or 16 GB RAM.

Where it may get interesting is a little further from now when 3 GB chips become available. GPUs are currently using 2 GB chips (so an RTX 4060 uses four 2 GB chips, with each one connected to a 32-bit bus). So with 3 GB chips, you get the option for 50% more RAM. That would make a 128-bit graphics card 12 GB (192-bit which is currently 12 GB becomes 18 GB, etc.). So the hypothetical Super refresh, which might return for the x60 SKU this generation, could increase VRAM to 12 GB (they'd probably skip on offering a 24 GB variant since the only reason the upper variant is needed is because they know the lesser one with 8 GB is seen as not enough in the mid-2020s). But, this all depends on how generous nVidia wants to be, and how competitive AMD is.

I would really like to see an RTX 5060 with at least 12GB of VRAM. Many modern video games are starting to correctly quantify the available video RAM of the video card when the game is started: I was able to discover thanks to this that the various applications running on Windows deprive video games of even 1 gigabyte of RAM; and this without considering that access to the VRAM is a priority struggle among all the integrated applications in Windows 10/11.

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BOBTOMAS Apr 12 @ 2:07am

So, Nvidia is still for the basic version of RTX 5060 to use only 8GB.
This video card is born old...

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Bing Chilling Apr 12 @ 2:08am

so far there are only rumors

https://videocardz.com/newz/rumored-launch-pricing-for-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-said-to-be-lower-than-rtx-4060-ti

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Rumpelcrutchskin Apr 12 @ 4:39am

As thought there will be 8 GB 5060 and 8 GB and 16 GB 5060 Ti. Expect the 16 GB 5060 Ti to cost around $500.

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Arbiter of mediocrity Apr 12 @ 11:31am

Last rumors I heard claim that the 5060 will have 8gb of gddr7 and the 5060ti comes in 8 and 16gb version however there was an earlier rumor from a Chinese retailer in which leaked a 5060 with 12gb gddr7

I just hope Samsung succeeds with their 4gb gddr6 modules which would give you roughly the same performance as a gddr6x but with higher density per chip. Maybe then we'll see more vram in GPU?

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smokerob79 Apr 12 @ 12:25pm

the X60 cards have always been the best selling and i can say that as a GTX260 216core owner!!!.....RIP EVGA!!!

........

the 300 dollar price point has made PC gaming a industry.....its that simple folks....the problem is right now is a lot of cases the current X60 cards are not out pacing consoles they must compete with.....

but for real the history shows all the X60 cards are the top sellers by massive margins with some gens seeing as much as a 6 to 1 ratio for selling a X60 VS a single X50 X70 X80 or even a X90 version when added.....

at this point we need at least 12gb versions in the segment....its what is needed for 1080p that is still the most used resolution

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Arbiter of mediocrity Apr 12 @ 12:35pm

Originally posted by smokerob79:
the X60 cards have always been the best selling and i can say that as a GTX260 216core owner!!!.....RIP EVGA!!! :possession:........

the 300 dollar price point has made PC gaming a industry.....its that simple folks....the problem is right now is a lot of cases the current X60 cards are not out pacing consoles they must compete with.....

but for real the history shows all the X60 cards are the top sellers by massive margins with some gens seeing as much as a 6 to 1 ratio for selling a X60 VS a single X50 X70 X80 or even a X90 version when added.....

at this point we need at least 12gb versions in the segment....its what is needed for 1080p that is still the most used resolution

NVIDIA and AMD both beg to differ. I mean you are correct. The margin on lower end hardware is higher. Similar to how lower model cars make more bank compared to luxury models but for two generation now we have received products on the low end that are worse than their predecessors. Anyone with a 3060ti or 3060 12gb has no need for Ada or Blackwell cards. It's gotten so bad that even the 70tier cards are not receiving any substantial benefits. You have to go up to 5080 to see bigger improvements compared to the predecessor but even that is marred due to the fact that that the 5080 comes with only 16gb vram

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Bing Chilling Apr 12 @ 3:47pm

Originally posted by Corona Scurrae:
Originally posted by smokerob79:
the X60 cards have always been the best selling and i can say that as a GTX260 216core owner!!!.....RIP EVGA!!! :possession:........

the 300 dollar price point has made PC gaming a industry.....its that simple folks....the problem is right now is a lot of cases the current X60 cards are not out pacing consoles they must compete with.....

but for real the history shows all the X60 cards are the top sellers by massive margins with some gens seeing as much as a 6 to 1 ratio for selling a X60 VS a single X50 X70 X80 or even a X90 version when added.....

at this point we need at least 12gb versions in the segment....its what is needed for 1080p that is still the most used resolution
NVIDIA and AMD both beg to differ. I mean you are correct. The margin on lower end hardware is higher. Similar to how lower model cars make more bank compared to luxury models but for two generation now we have received products on the low end that are worse than their predecessors. Anyone with a 3060ti or 3060 12gb has no need for Ada or Blackwell cards. It's gotten so bad that even the 70tier cards are not receiving any substantial benefits. You have to go up to 5080 to see bigger improvements compared to the predecessor but even that is marred due to the fact that that the 5080 comes with only 16gb vram

pre true honestly. i waited for 8 years for something within reason to come around, and finally got a 4060 a few weeks ago for 360cad or about 259 USD from a gtx 1070. everything higher end has always been far to expensive and it took until the 40 series for a reasonable priced card to come around. I only upgrade when i can get 2x performance of my last card for the same amount of money. only downside is the 8gb vram on the 4060 but eh.

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fourfourtwo79 Apr 13 @ 2:38am

Originally posted by smokerob79:
the 300 dollar price point has made PC gaming a industry.....its that simple folks....the problem is right now is a lot of cases the current X60 cards are not out pacing consoles they must compete with.....

I agree.

Consoles are long since affected too though. Take a look at the price of the Switch 2. Or of the PS5 Pro, consequently struggling to do as well as the PS4 Pro previous, despite still being based on Zen2 architecture from 2019 (Ryzen 3xxxx). Even the PS5 half a decade on has yet to receive a substantial price cut (which Sony argues would be tough due to die sizes and cost). https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-says-big-ps5-price-cut-would-be-very-difficult

As such, you can play everything on 60 cards still. Enthusiasts may come in and say: "Yeah, but how about playing everything maxed out 4K?" That's called SCALING. And is the only way to make at least some use of better hardware. Else you're running the exact same game that may be still just fine on a Series S. Demanding PC Exclusives are dead anyway. Even deader are ones that would only run on higher end specs -- that'd be commercial suicide. https://gamerant.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-xbox-series-s-held-back/

Things may get more interesting again once the PS6 releases (and the PS5xPS6 CrossGen period will be over). However, in today's chip market, where much more power means much more cost, it's unlikely that the PS6 is gonna really push tech now, when neither the PS4 nor PS5 did do so previous. Else Sony would risk increasing prices further from the PS5 Pro.

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Arbiter of mediocrity Apr 13 @ 12:45pm

Originally posted by fourfourtwo79:
Originally posted by smokerob79:
the 300 dollar price point has made PC gaming a industry.....its that simple folks....the problem is right now is a lot of cases the current X60 cards are not out pacing consoles they must compete with.....

I agree.

Consoles are long since affected too though. Take a look at the price of the Switch 2. Or of the PS5 Pro, consequently struggling to do as well as the PS4 Pro previous, despite still being based on Zen2 architecture from 2019 (Ryzen 3xxxx). Even the PS5 half a decade on has yet to receive a substantial price cut (which Sony argues would be tough due to die sizes and cost). https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-says-big-ps5-price-cut-would-be-very-difficult

As such, you can play everything on 60 cards still. Enthusiasts may come in and say: "Yeah, but how about playing everything maxed out 4K?" That's called SCALING. And is the only way to make at least some use of better hardware. Else you're running the exact same game that may be still just fine on a Series S. Demanding PC Exclusives are dead anyway. Even deader are ones that would only run on higher end specs -- that'd be commercial suicide. https://gamerant.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-xbox-series-s-held-back/

Things may get more interesting again once the PS6 releases (and the PS5xPS6 CrossGen period will be over). However, in today's chip market, where much more power means much more cost, it's unlikely that the PS6 is gonna really push tech now, when neither the PS4 nor PS5 did do so previous. Else Sony would risk increasing prices further from the PS5 Pro.

I partially agree with you. Problem is that those 60 cards and series s play games at much lower res and require upscaling even at 1080p. New games look horrible at 1080p native. 1620p is the minimum I play games at and even at that res it becomes a blurry mess in motion

The latest halo for example is awful to look at and when you force taa off you notice that all the foliage has been rendered at an extremely low res and the lazy devs added a blur filter to hide that mess.

I just can't understand how we went from the crisp immaculate image quality of arkham knight to the blurry smeary artifact ridden image we witness in the latest titles. Indiana Jones and Alan wake 2 were the worst offenders imo

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