All games don't run smooth, even though video recordings, fps tests, screen refresh rates are smooth.

[Blagadariu]

Currently my problem is mainly on rust, since that is the game I mostly play right now. From what I can say I spent a month trying to fix the problem, but it never worked. Games that are under 90fps are very laggy, almost uplayable, meanwhile the same recording of the game is perfectly smooth. My gaming setup is an rtx 3060 ti, amd ryzen 5 7500f, game installed on ssd, 5200mhz 32gb ram, good psu, I forgot how much it is. My problem is most likely not my monitor, since it 165hz, I've tried everything, try smaller refresh rate, capping fps, turning on v-sync, turning off g-sync and nothing worked. This problem is in all games and not just in rust. On my old laptop I did not have this problem while using same monitor. My friend tried helping me too but couldn't. I am still looking for information, so if anyone has encountered this problem before I would be really happy if some could help me. I also forgot to mention that this problem could be fixed by a program called lossless scaling, but I can't use it because of the big input latency.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

8 GB VRAM of 3060 Ti could be the problem when you are simply hitting the limit and this causes it to stutter and lose fps.

[Midnight Aurais]

first clean your dxcache and try again you can do that either by going to the nvidia folder in appdata and finding the dx cache or you go to settings in windows then system then storage click temporary files and clean the dx cache

after that test the game again

if it did not fix it question this how often did you update your videocard without running ddu after a while because unfortunately when you update a videocard driver it doesn't wipe your dxcache and each update leaves lingering files that can cause the issues you describe or blue screen your videocard and so on

https://www.wagnardsoft.com/display-driver-uninstaller-DDU-

[Rod]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

8 GB VRAM of 3060 Ti could be the problem when you are simply hitting the limit and this causes it to stutter and lose fps.

Framegen used vram its just bad perf and a crappy game called rust the fact framegen fixes it is proof he needs a new pc for 165hz you need 120fps minimums.

[Blagadariu]

Originally posted by Rod:

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

8 GB VRAM of 3060 Ti could be the problem when you are simply hitting the limit and this causes it to stutter and lose fps.

Framegen used vram its just bad perf and a crappy game called rust the fact framegen fixes it is proof he needs a new pc for 165hz you need 120fps minimums.

But the problem is that my old 60hz laptop on 70fps is smoother than my new 165hz pc on 90fps, that is the problem, and it is csgo too, not just rust. I am going to redownload it on my old laptop and I am going to check.

[Rod]

Originally posted by Blagadariu:

Originally posted by Rod:

Framegen used vram its just bad perf and a crappy game called rust the fact framegen fixes it is proof he needs a new pc for 165hz you need 120fps minimums.

But the problem is that my old 60hz laptop on 70fps is smoother than my new 165hz pc on 90fps, that is the problem, and it is csgo too, not just rust. I am going to redownload it on my old laptop and I am going to check.

Well 70fps on 60hz is fine but why isnt it capped to 60fps to sync? You seem not to understand fps can be complicated. I can play 70fps on a 60hz screen and its ok but 60fps on a 70hz screen is really bad. So on displays like 144hz 165hz 240hz 280hz from my own testing it requires a whopping 120fps high refresh rate gsync and freesync displays do not require above 120fps to get a very smooth experience but perform poorly below 120fps its the way fps divides equally and frametimes and as i said its complicated.


I prefer 60fps locked on a 60hz display not 70fps and its better to my eyes than 90fps on a 240hz display isnt that weird but thats reality. Its also why framegen fixes your problems framegen must of put you past the magic number of 120.00fps. So to better the laptop experience you would want an fps that has 120 minimums but you can have the average be anywhere from 120-165 no problem just do not let it exceed 165 or drop below 120 and keep Gsync on.


Also your monitor exceeds your pc specs for modern games older games ok but Rust etc you need a new cpu and gpu 5000 series has framegen for any game not just dlss called nvidia smooth motion maybe start saving for a 5060/5070ti and a X3D cpu as well.

[Blagadariu]

Originally posted by Rod:

Originally posted by Blagadariu:

But the problem is that my old 60hz laptop on 70fps is smoother than my new 165hz pc on 90fps, that is the problem, and it is csgo too, not just rust. I am going to redownload it on my old laptop and I am going to check.

Well 70fps on 60hz is fine but why isnt it capped to 60fps to sync? You seem n ot to understand fps can be complicated. I can play 70fps on a 60hz screen and its ok but 60fps on a 70hz screen is really bad. So on displays like 144hz 165hz 240hz 280hz from my own testing it requires a whopping 120fps high refresh rate gsync and freesync displays do not require above 120fps to get a very smooth experience but perform poorly below 120fps its the way fps divides equally and frametimes and as i said its complicated.


I prefer 60fps locked on a 60hz display not 70fps and its better to my eyes than 90fps on a 240bz display isnt that weird but thats reality. Its also why framegen fixes your problems framegen must of put you past the magic number of 120.00fps. So to better the laptop experience you would want an fps that has 120 minimums but you can have the average be anywhere from 120-165 no problem just do not let it exceed 165 or drop below 120.

Thank you, this is the answer that I was looking for thank you a lot for your help.

[Blagadariu]

Originally posted by Rod:

Originally posted by Blagadariu:

But the problem is that my old 60hz laptop on 70fps is smoother than my new 165hz pc on 90fps, that is the problem, and it is csgo too, not just rust. I am going to redownload it on my old laptop and I am going to check.

Well 70fps on 60hz is fine but why isnt it capped to 60fps to sync? You seem n ot to understand fps can be complicated. I can play 70fps on a 60hz screen and its ok but 60fps on a 70hz screen is really bad. So on displays like 144hz 165hz 240hz 280hz from my own testing it requires a whopping 120fps high refresh rate gsync and freesync displays do not require above 120fps to get a very smooth experience but perform poorly below 120fps its the way fps divides equally and frametimes and as i said its complicated.


I prefer 60fps locked on a 60hz display not 70fps and its better to my eyes than 90fps on a 240bz display isnt that weird but thats reality. Its also why framegen fixes your problems framegen must of put you past the magic number of 120.00fps. So to better the laptop experience you would want an fps that has 120 minimums but you can have the average be anywhere from 120-165 no problem just do not let it exceed 165 or drop below 120.

So maybe you know what I could do because I can change my 165hz to 60hz but it's not same as my normal laptop, my old laptop is still much smoother than my pc. Do you know what I could do without upgrading my pc?

[Rod]

Originally posted by Blagadariu:

Originally posted by Rod:

Well 70fps on 60hz is fine but why isnt it capped to 60fps to sync? You seem n ot to understand fps can be complicated. I can play 70fps on a 60hz screen and its ok but 60fps on a 70hz screen is really bad. So on displays like 144hz 165hz 240hz 280hz from my own testing it requires a whopping 120fps high refresh rate gsync and freesync displays do not require above 120fps to get a very smooth experience but perform poorly below 120fps its the way fps divides equally and frametimes and as i said its complicated.


I prefer 60fps locked on a 60hz display not 70fps and its better to my eyes than 90fps on a 240bz display isnt that weird but thats reality. Its also why framegen fixes your problems framegen must of put you past the magic number of 120.00fps. So to better the laptop experience you would want an fps that has 120 minimums but you can have the average be anywhere from 120-165 no problem just do not let it exceed 165 or drop below 120.

So maybe you know what I could do because I can change my 165hz to 60hz but it's not same as my normal laptop, my old laptop is still much smoother than my pc. Do you know what I could do without upgrading my pc?

Keep the monitor at 165hz.


Lower the settings ingame and keep gsync on. Turn off vsync in game and triple buffering and enable vsync in the nvidia control panel. Make sure gsync is ticked and on in the nvidia control panel.


Use lossless scaling/framgen too really you need an upgrade to reach 120fps is kinda expensive.

[Blagadariu]

Originally posted by Rod:

Originally posted by Blagadariu:

So maybe you know what I could do because I can change my 165hz to 60hz but it's not same as my normal laptop, my old laptop is still much smoother than my pc. Do you know what I could do without upgrading my pc?

Keep the monitor at 165hz.


Lower the settings ingame and keep gsync on. Turn off vsync in game and triple buffering and enable vsync in the nvidia control panel. Make sure gsync is ticked and on in the nvidia control panel.


Use lossless scaling/framgen too really you need an upgrade to reach 120fps is kinda expensive.

Is there another way, for example could I downgrade my 165hz monitor to 60hz so it naturally looks like a 60hz monitor or is it not possible? Because I would rather upgrade my monitor than my pc.

[Rod]

Nope either use framegen or new pc or turn settings down crippling a 165hz monitor to 60hz would look terrible and feel terrible.


Try keeping res at native, all other settings apart from textures low.

[Blagadariu]

Originally posted by Rod:

Nope either use framegen or new pc or turn settings down crippling a 165hz monitor to 60hz would look terrible and feel terrible.


Try keeping res at native, all other settings apart from textures low.

Thank you a lot for your help!

[Blagadariu]

Originally posted by Rod:

Nope either use framegen or new pc or turn settings down crippling a 165hz monitor to 60hz would look terrible and feel terrible.


Try keeping res at native, all other settings apart from textures low.

Sorry for writing this very late, do you think I could buy a less hz monitor like 60hz or 75hz because my old 60hz laptop ran without lag on 70fps and now I have about 90fps average on my current pc.

[Rod]

Originally posted by Blagadariu:

Originally posted by Rod:

Nope either use framegen or new pc or turn settings down crippling a 165hz monitor to 60hz would look terrible and feel terrible.


Try keeping res at native, all other settings apart from textures low.

Sorry for writing this very late, do you think I could buy a less hz monitor like 60hz or 75hz because my old 60hz laptop ran without lag on 70fps and now I have about 90fps average on my current pc.

All the good monitors are 144hz it will be hard to find a 60hz screen normally thats a tv. You may find a 75hz ips on ebay?