RDNA 4 and RX9000 Reveal

[A&A]

AMD's stream.

https://www.youtube.com/live/GZfFPI8LJrc?si=LsfA6yHVUZYk5GP8

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

watch them price it at 700 MSRP then have it on sale for 1000, gonna be a huge miss yet again

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Yeah pretty damn sure it will be 1000+ euros in store. Would have bought it instantly for 550 but for twice that they can go to hell.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rumpelcrutchskin:

Yeah pretty damn sure it will be 1000+ euros in store. Would have bought it instantly for 550 but for twice that they can go to hell.

they could have been an actual nvidia competitor had they not cancelled the "7950xtx" which would have probably been the same as a 4090 if not tiny bit slower or faster(i doubt faster because they did not use gddr6(x) memory) but noo they have to stay as the low tier dogs

[Trout]

if it actually sells at MSRP, AMD won. i'm still gonna wait for proper benchmarks to debate whether i should replace my 3080 with the 9070 XT or not months after it's out

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

So $549 for RX 9070 and $599 for RX 9070 XT.
First good luck of getting them for this price.
Second why would anyone buy 9070 when 9070 XT is only $50 more with better performance.
Something doesn`t add up, 220W TDP card and 300W+ TDP card with only $50 difference.
I smell some kind of catch here.

[C1REX]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rumpelcrutchskin:

So $549 for RX 9070 and $599 for RX 9070 XT.
First good luck of getting them for this price.
Second why would anyone buy 9070 when 9070 XT is only $50 more with better performance.
Something doesn`t add up, 220W TDP card and 300W+ TDP card with only $50 difference.
I smell some kind of catch here.

They done similar stuff with 7900XT and 7900XTX. A big performance and some VRAM difference for just $100 more. AMD being AMD I guess.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh C1REX:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rumpelcrutchskin:

So $549 for RX 9070 and $599 for RX 9070 XT.
First good luck of getting them for this price.
Second why would anyone buy 9070 when 9070 XT is only $50 more with better performance.
Something doesn`t add up, 220W TDP card and 300W+ TDP card with only $50 difference.
I smell some kind of catch here.

They done similar stuff with 7900XT and 7900XTX. A big performance and some VRAM difference for just $100 more. AMD being AMD I guess.

Guess waiting for benchmarks instead of AMD wundergraphs showing it be better then 5070 Ti.

[Towik]

Gamers Nexus video, prices and so on.
https://youtu.be/UAe50byQGG0

[A&A]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rumpelcrutchskin:

So $549 for RX 9070 and $599 for RX 9070 XT.
First good luck of getting them for this price.
Second why would anyone buy 9070 when 9070 XT is only $50 more with better performance.
Something doesn`t add up, 220W TDP card and 300W+ TDP card with only $50 difference.
I smell some kind of catch here.

8 CU and 400MHz clock difference.
Like Vega 64 and 56 I guess.

[Rod]

AMD do not offer a full 80GB DP 1.2 a port? They capped it at 54GB. Does this mean no 4k 240hz HDR?

[Illusion of Progress]

Diposting pertama kali oleh C1REX:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rumpelcrutchskin:

So $549 for RX 9070 and $599 for RX 9070 XT.
Second why would anyone buy 9070 when 9070 XT is only $50 more with better performance.
Something doesn`t add up, 220W TDP card and 300W+ TDP card with only $50 difference.
I smell some kind of catch here.

They done similar stuff with 7900XT and 7900XTX. A big performance and some VRAM difference for just $100 more. AMD being AMD I guess.

It's because the 7900 XT and 7700 XT are just defective 7900 XTX and 7800 XT respectively. The same will be true of the 9070 compared to the 9070 XT.

This explains why the lesser three were/are all regarded as too close in price to their fuller counterparts. They still have the same up front cost as their fuller chip counterparts. And this probably applies even more so to the 9070 than it did to those RDNA3 examples because the latter were MCM and also had separate MCDs. RDNA4 is monolithic. If the 9070s were actually made from the start as physically smaller chips, they could be a bit cheaper, but there's going to be a higher floor on them since they are larger chips with parts disabled due to defects.

AMD probably doesn't want to have to sell as many of those lower versions. If yields are good, they probably won't have as many of them.

As a bonus, this pricing spread makes the fuller chips look like the much better value and probably encourages upspending/higher demand.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Illusion of Progress:

Diposting pertama kali oleh C1REX:

They done similar stuff with 7900XT and 7900XTX. A big performance and some VRAM difference for just $100 more. AMD being AMD I guess.

It's because the 7900 XT and 7700 XT are just defective 7900 XTX and 7800 XT respectively. The same will be true of the 9070 compared to the 9070 XT.

This explains why the lesser three were/are all regarded as too close in price to their fuller counterparts. They still have the same up front cost as their fuller chip counterparts. And this probably applies even more so to the 9070 than it did to those RDNA3 examples because the latter were MCM and also had separate MCDs. RDNA4 is monolithic. If the 9070s were actually made from the start as physically smaller chips, they could be a bit cheaper, but there's going to be a higher floor on them since they are larger chips with parts disabled due to defects.

AMD probably doesn't want to have to sell as many of those lower versions. If yields are good, they probably won't have as many of them.

As a bonus, this pricing spread makes the fuller chips look like the much better value and probably encourages upspending/higher demand.

Yeah looks like you are right, they are using bad chips that didn`t make the cut for 9070 XT to make 9070.

[xDDD]

I am very surprised that AMD actually decided to have reasonable pricing. Was so sure they'd screw it up and then drop it by 20% after a few months of bad sales figures.

[BurakZG]

The only question is, will they do real release where GPU will be really available, or they copy Nvidia and they do fake release. If they copy, they will loose (probably for long). If they do real release Nvidia will be in troubles.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BurakZG:

The only question is, will they do real release where GPU will be really available, or they copy Nvidia and they do fake release. If they copy, they will loose (probably for long). If they do real release Nvidia will be in troubles.

Rumor has it they have been stockpiling 9070 in the warehouses for months so they might actually have reasonable amount of stock to sell.