Worlds fastest turtle (Banido(a)) 30 dez. 2024 às 18:04
7900 XTX at 779 new is a stupidly good deal.
If you live in the UK, the XFX MERC 310 on Ebuyer is 779 and is one of the best AIB models.

The ones better are the NITRO+ and TAICHI which are significantly more expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-qFZkS-Zp0
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Worlds fastest turtle (Banido(a)) 30 dez. 2024 às 21:02 
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
^ Yes and it's clear to me an AMD Radeon user doesn't do anything on their PC besides maybe a few games here and there. They don't do any professional work what so ever, if they did, they'd be buying an NVIDIA GPU.

I still prefer NVIDIA regardless because much less headache and general problems. In like 1000 NVIDIA cards maybe one goes bad. With Radeon these # of fails are all over the place and so laughable it makes me wonder how Radeon can still exist. Only because the market tolerates it. And with NVIDIA I can use all of those AMD features if needed, where as AMD can't use any of the NVIDIA features.
What on earth are you going on about?

What failures?
Sorry if you want to do this, now this happens on both vendor GPU's to a very small amount of customers.

Yeah no one is buying a card for Nvidia features if they are buying Radeon, that's common sense.

No clue what other problems...

The Radeons do all the same work stuff Nvidia can just not on CUDA optimized software. ROCM is a translationlayer that is slower, but the work can be done with the cards too.
Pretty simple.
Última alteração por Worlds fastest turtle; 30 dez. 2024 às 21:03
xDDD 30 dez. 2024 às 21:03 
Originalmente postado por Worlds fastest turtle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=incMfu2J5fg

This video just dropped.
My takeaway from this video is that the 7900XT is a pretty great card and the best deal of those 3 options.

Although, unless I have my conversions messed up, you got a 7900XTX for roughly the price of a 7900XT. That is pretty sweet and you did get a pretty solid deal considering it is just objectively a very powerful card.
Worlds fastest turtle (Banido(a)) 30 dez. 2024 às 21:04 
Originalmente postado por xDDD:
Originalmente postado por Worlds fastest turtle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=incMfu2J5fg

This video just dropped.
My takeaway from this video is that the 7900XT is a pretty great card and the best deal of those 3 options.

Although, unless I have my conversions messed up, you got a 7900XTX for roughly the price of a 7900XT. That is pretty sweet and you did get a pretty solid deal considering it is just objectively a very powerful card.

It's what I was trying to show, the XTX at least this model is a banger of a deal right now and I do not expect preices to drop much since the XTX will stay the strongest AMD GPU overall in pure raw performance.

The RX 9070 may well use better software tricks but we are not there yet to know.
Última alteração por Worlds fastest turtle; 30 dez. 2024 às 21:05
C1REX 30 dez. 2024 às 23:16 
Originalmente postado por Worlds fastest turtle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=incMfu2J5fg

This video just dropped.
This video mostly shows how much better Nvidia is.
Well, except Space Marine 2 when Nvidia is running out of VRAM at 4K and 4K textures pack.
AmaiAmai 30 dez. 2024 às 23:29 
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
^ Yes and it's clear to me an AMD Radeon user doesn't do anything on their PC besides maybe a few games here and there. They don't do any professional work what so ever, if they did, they'd be buying an NVIDIA GPU.

I still prefer NVIDIA regardless because much less headache and general problems. In like 1000 NVIDIA cards maybe one goes bad. With Radeon these # of fails are all over the place and so laughable it makes me wonder how Radeon can still exist. Only because the market tolerates it. And with NVIDIA I can use all of those AMD features if needed, where as AMD can't use any of the NVIDIA features.

It's weird that people always say this, but I wonder how true it is when the top supercomputer in the world uses AMD, and that is true for many of them on the list.

Wait, "professional work" here must mean commercial software that has a bias for one vendor over the others, not actual "professional work" like computer.

Gotcha...
Worlds fastest turtle (Banido(a)) 31 dez. 2024 às 4:02 
Well.

Up and running.

https://imgur.com/a/qycgVxH
Ontrix_Kitsune 31 dez. 2024 às 4:24 
I just checked, no you're wrong. It's £849.99 not £779. See here: https://www.ebuyer.com/1566287-xfx-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-speedster-merc-310-graphics-card-for-rx-79xmercb9

Besides that the 7900 XTX is for sale here in the USA for $869.99 brand new on newegg, which (with current exchange rates) makes it £676.62, even £779 would be a bad deal for this card.
Worlds fastest turtle (Banido(a)) 31 dez. 2024 às 4:26 
Originalmente postado por Ontrix_Kitsune:
I just checked, no you're wrong. It's £849.99 not £779. See here: https://www.ebuyer.com/1566287-xfx-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-speedster-merc-310-graphics-card-for-rx-79xmercb9

Besides that the 7900 XTX is for sale here in the USA for $869.99 brand new on newegg, which (with current exchange rates) makes it £676.62, even £779 would be a bad deal for this card.
Yeah sucks to be all of you folks, the price went back to normal.

UK market is completely different to US, we get ripped off.



Toodaloo!

Tee hee!
Última alteração por Worlds fastest turtle; 31 dez. 2024 às 4:27
Bad 💀 Motha 31 dez. 2024 às 4:54 
Originalmente postado por Worlds fastest turtle:
Originalmente postado por Ontrix_Kitsune:
I just checked, no you're wrong. It's £849.99 not £779. See here: https://www.ebuyer.com/1566287-xfx-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-speedster-merc-310-graphics-card-for-rx-79xmercb9

Besides that the 7900 XTX is for sale here in the USA for $869.99 brand new on newegg, which (with current exchange rates) makes it £676.62, even £779 would be a bad deal for this card.
Yeah sucks to be all of you folks, the price went back to normal.

UK market is completely different to US, we get ripped off.



Toodaloo!

Tee hee!

Because it's more about how many are buying them anything. You're not going to have millions in the UK buying GPUs.

Take Samsung flagship phones for example. They are made in South Korea, yet they are offered cheaper to US consumers as opposed to Korean consumers. Why? Because more buyers in the US Market
Zef 31 dez. 2024 às 5:24 
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
I still prefer NVIDIA regardless because much less headache and general problems. In like 1000 NVIDIA cards maybe one goes bad. With Radeon these # of fails are all over the place and so laughable it makes me wonder how Radeon can still exist. Only because the market tolerates it. And with NVIDIA I can use all of those AMD features if needed, where as AMD can't use any of the NVIDIA features.

This is why boomers who haven't used AMD GPU's recently should just keep their opinions to themselves.

It's just getting embarrassing at this point how completely outdated your information is.

Bad motha? More like boomer motha
Última alteração por Zef; 31 dez. 2024 às 8:27
I will run Nvidia with AMD RX all day long and simply switch when needed. :csd2smile:
Última alteração por Phénomènes Mystiques; 31 dez. 2024 às 6:10
smokerob79 31 dez. 2024 às 9:00 
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
^ Yes and it's clear to me an AMD Radeon user doesn't do anything on their PC besides maybe a few games here and there. They don't do any professional work what so ever, if they did, they'd be buying an NVIDIA GPU.

I still prefer NVIDIA regardless because much less headache and general problems. In like 1000 NVIDIA cards maybe one goes bad. With Radeon these # of fails are all over the place and so laughable it makes me wonder how Radeon can still exist. Only because the market tolerates it. And with NVIDIA I can use all of those AMD features if needed, where as AMD can't use any of the NVIDIA features.


wow as always just clueless.....it does not matter what you do.....you are a nothing part of the market.....

its funny you talk of pro use when many are already on AMD GPU's for it.....i also have to point out a few intel workers were just fired for recommending AMD to clients......
Tonepoet 31 dez. 2024 às 10:19 
XFX often makes the cheapest variant of any given A.M.D. card. However, out of 17 companies, XFX has been shown to have the highest failure rate[www.techspot.com], and out of 10 they have moderately long warranty claim resolution of 12 days.

It's only a failure rate of 2.5%, but even Powercolor and Gigabyte, which are also known for making low cost cards (powercolor is oftentimes the cheapest A.M.D. card too) have failure rates of 1.7% and 1.8% respectively, which is still high but still lower. Also, their corporate history is shady. They are spun off Pine, which made the 3D Phantom scam card.

Sapphire's failure rate isn't much better than XFX's, but 2.4% still does mean you are less likely to experience a problem in the first place, and more importantly Sapphire's average warranty claim turnaround is only 9 days when you do have a problem, which is 25% faster than XFX.

The Pine 3D Phantom was made a long time ago under technically another brand name though, and 2.5% is low enough of a failure rate that I'd probably take the chance on xfx and just R.M.A. the card on the off-chance it failed in consideration of the discount relative to other brands. However, I'd be hesitant to say they are among the best A.I.B. options. I'd only consider buying from them because their cards are cheaper.

Still, with C.E.S. only being somewhere about a week away and likely new models being announced at that time, it seems premature to be buying a G.P.U. to me. Fewer people care what the best G.P.U. from a specific G.P.U. is than what the best G.P.U. overall is, or the best G.P.U. in a price range. If a GTX 5070 Ti performs about as well as a 7900 XTX for a similar enough price, which is pretty likely, then 7900 XTX prices may go down.
Última alteração por Tonepoet; 31 dez. 2024 às 10:23
Phénomènes Mystiques 31 dez. 2024 às 10:35 
Originalmente postado por Tonepoet:
XFX often makes the cheapest variant of any given A.M.D. card. However, out of 17 companies, XFX has been shown to have the highest failure rate[www.techspot.com], and out of 10 they have moderately long warranty claim resolution of 12 days.

It's only a failure rate of 2.5%, but even Powercolor and Gigabyte, which are also known for making low cost cards (powercolor is oftentimes the cheapest A.M.D. card too) have failure rates of 1.7% and 1.8% respectively, which is still high but still lower. Also, their corporate history is shady. They are spun off Pine, which made the 3D Phantom scam card.

Sapphire's failure rate isn't much better than XFX's, but 2.4% still does mean you are less likely to experience a problem in the first place, and more importantly Sapphire's average warranty claim turnaround is only 9 days when you do have a problem, which is 25% faster than XFX.

The Pine 3D Phantom was made a long time ago under technically another brand name though, and 2.5% is low enough of a failure rate that I'd probably take the chance on xfx and just R.M.A. the card on the off-chance it failed in consideration of the discount relative to other brands. However, I'd be hesitant to say they are among the best A.I.B. options. I'd only consider buying from them because their cards are cheaper.

Still, with C.E.S. only being somewhere about a week away and likely new models being announced at that time, it seems premature to be buying a G.P.U. to me. Fewer people care what the best G.P.U. from a specific G.P.U. is than what the best G.P.U. overall is, or the best G.P.U. in a price range. If a GTX 5070 Ti performs about as well as a 7900 XTX for a similar enough price, which is pretty likely, then 7900 XTX prices may go down.
What do you think about the ASRock AMD Radeon line? :csd2smile:
Tonepoet 31 dez. 2024 às 11:17 
I have no firsthand experience with the brand. The chart I referenced shows Asrock has the second lowest failure rate next to Dell though, and that's probably because Dell doesn't sell graphics cards direct to the home user, so for all practical intents and purposes Asrock has the lowest failure rate. A failure rate as low as .03% means you're 8 times less likely to experience a problem with an Asrock card than a Sapphire card. Not having a problem in the first place is just how things ought to be, so I'd put a good deal of faith into the brand on that basis alone, even if I don't have customer service data, because you are so much less likely to even need to contact customer service in the first place. Their cards tend to be pretty affordable too.

I'd usually just say to buy whatever brand is offering a card for cheapest 'cause the difference between variants of the same card likely isn't going to count for nearly as much as upgrading the model tier of the card, and the cost between premium variants and a reference design of the next tier up often ends up being comparable.
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