Why moving to Linux isn't really viable to a Windows user

[Vanythe]

The answer is simple: There is no official Linux release.

And that is the problem. There are so, so, SO many distros to choose from, each different enough to warrant it being it's own thing, some more official, some less so, but I really honestly believe this exact variety is the main problem for Linux adoption.

Literally, cannot see the forest because of the trees, so how do you find a good one? All of them are good? Then why are there so many? Still, with windows becoming worse with every update and now as I am getting these wonderful ads that I should update to Windows 11, I am thinking, is this the time Linux finally rises? And the answer is sadly, no.

The whole thing boils down to Linux dot org's download page. Look how many choices. Remember how much flak Vista got for all it's versions? Vista Home Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise...

Linux in this situation is like "Hold my Red Hat" and you got... Ubuntu, PuppyLinux, Mint, Knoppix, Fedora, Arch, OpenSuse... Just to name a few. But then, some distros also stop being developed relatively quickly, and you're left with an essentially "outdated" OS yet again.

So that's why I believe that there needs to be something like Linux Base Edition that should be extremely user-friendly especially towards windows users (read: Same hotkeys/functions/programs that a Windows user expects to see and use) so that the switch feels "at home" and then, distros could be offered if the user wants a more customized experience that distros offer.

[A&A]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bad 💀 Motha:

So did you actually configure the device properly?

The defaults are often going to be crap, just like in WinOS. They require tweaking in the device config.

And why even 300Mbps? Intel AX210 was do 1200Mbps over 5Ghz and 2400Mbps over 6Ghz

Drivers for wireless networks are shipped with the kernel and must be shipped with the firmware.

In my case it wasn't Intel Ax210, but Realtek I belive it was I need to check the full model that comes with wifi 6 and because the internet from the ISP is 300Mbps and of course I use the speedtest.

And of course I turned off ip6 and the 5GHz band (no reason to keep it on 2,4). The power settings I honestly haven't touched. Come to think of it, they shouldn't be on because they are more likely to cause more problems due the different modules than reduce power consumption.

[SHAZBOT]

i met andreas muller, its baffling how such an idiot founded kubuntu

he runs an EA distro called gnoppix, dont ask me how its number 83 on distrowatch, it is the most broken distro on fidtrowatches top 100. he understands and thats why hes seeking help from the community to patch his distro. his escuse is no one wants to work, he cant find anyone to help.

his key feature is The distribution attempts to clean up after itself, removing all traces of its use from the computer or used media.

so i asked him is he talking about live disk? every live disk in the world attempts to clean up after itself. he laughed at me XD

"Success
Gnoppix Linux is the perfect operating system for people who want a fast, reliable, and secure operating system that is also easy to use. Since 2023 we have a optional installation to hard disk, this isn't still fully supported."

its the perfect secure os, but he is in the middle of making it install to hard disk? but it isnt fully supported.... AND HE IS WORKING ON IT BY HIMSELF! THIS MAN IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT IVE EVER TALKING TO IN MY LIFE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO DIDNT FINISH GRADE 8 SMARTER THAN HIM!



he answeres his own support emails personally. he sits in his basement night after night clicking the refresh button on his donation page.







this is why lynis audit is important. you never know what early access pos distro youre gonna be stuck with, or how big the holes are.

you have no idea some of the idiots behind some of these projects.

stick with major distros, or you might as well let your kids make you an operating system.






" It is free and secure to use, no personal datas were taken nor uploaded to somewhere. "

english mofo. speak english

to somewhere. he says to somewhere.

wellim glad my datas isnt being uploaded to somewheres. i feel much safer.

[The_Abortionator]

Oprindeligt skrevet af BOT PLAYER:

>Why moving to Linux isn't really viable to a Windows user

1. as a windows user you already have a windows licence.
2. windows works

i only use linux on 2nd hand machines.
i like that linux has rdp as standard now and i can securely connect to them easy with my windows machine. linux has greatly improved over the last 20 years. But if you already have a windows licence then i see no reason to use linux.

I don't get this child take. If you dont care to switch or main it thats fine but a product SIMPLY EXISTING already is a stupid reason to claim using another is pointless.

[Trout]

Oprindeligt skrevet af alberta27:

and for those of you talking about linux mint....

i speak from personal experience. it was serviceable a year ago when i finally decided to make the jump and definitely helped ease me into linux. i'm not using it anymore since i just needed an "easy" distro to start out with and i'd rather use a rolling release distro as my daily driver, i'm on artix now

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Oprindeligt skrevet af A&A:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bad 💀 Motha:

So did you actually configure the device properly?

The defaults are often going to be crap, just like in WinOS. They require tweaking in the device config.

And why even 300Mbps? Intel AX210 was do 1200Mbps over 5Ghz and 2400Mbps over 6Ghz

Drivers for wireless networks are shipped with the kernel and must be shipped with the firmware.

In my case it wasn't Intel Ax210, but Realtek I belive it was I need to check the full model that comes with wifi 6 and because the internet from the ISP is 300Mbps and of course I use the speedtest.

And of course I turned off ip6 and the 5GHz band (no reason to keep it on 2,4). The power settings I honestly haven't touched. Come to think of it, they shouldn't be on because they are more likely to cause more problems due the different modules than reduce power consumption.

OK no said nothing about no drivers. I said CONFIGURE THE DEVICE.
The device has driver level options you can change, just like on WinOS.
CHANGE THEM!

[Mabi]

Simply just let Steam OS hurry up, alternatively just rush everyone to Nobara.

[A&A]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bad 💀 Motha:

OK no said nothing about no drivers. I said CONFIGURE THE DEVICE.
The device has driver level options you can change, just like on WinOS.
CHANGE THEM!

There is no such tab as "Open the device maneger and start configuring settings on driver level", well on driver level you can change some settings, such as turning power saving features on and off, transmit power, disable some wireless standards, and other things that are not interesting.
If you mean that interrupt priority option that needs to be set to a highest, well, you'll have a better day if you just replace the kernel with a custom one or compile one yourself that has an adjusted kernel tick rate from 100Hz (by default) to 1000Hz.
If we talk about the receive/transmit buffers, they are kernel level buffers. At least they could be readjusted without the need of building a new kernel.

[pasa]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Nico Radioactive:

I haven't used Windows since then. Between Steam and Lutris, all my game collection works just fine on Ubuntu.

Well, if all your game collection is ~50, sure. Those who don't play at all, have even easier time I guess.

OP somehow misses the point even after we have "personal" computers for some 40 years. Only the handful of fanatics are "W user" or "L user" and pride to be so. The majority have no intention to use any OS at all -- but have some real life goal, like reading, browsing, playing music, movies, games, do work.

What magic makes that possible is irrelevant -- as long as it works.

When all those aimed tasks start to work on L (and within the amount of hassle the user tolerates), people will probably start switching. Currently it's still not happening despite MS works really hard to make every next W worse and more annoying.

It's a shame really, but it is what it is.

[SHAZBOT]

https://bazaar.abuse.ch/statistics/

exe is wondows

elf is linux

apk is android



backdoors is a close race between linux and windows

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Oprindeligt skrevet af A&A:

you can change some settings, such as turning power saving features on and off, transmit power, disable some wireless standards, and other things

^ This is exactly what you want to change. This overall dictates how the device functions. For example Roaming and Power Level is usually around the Middle/Medium; you generally want the Roaming level turning down and the Power Level set to the max. Disable all power saving methods and if you wish, even disable other things, such as the ability to even bother connecting to 2.4Ghz SSIDs and just stick to using 5Ghz and/or 6Ghz along with setting the connection option to the max, such as AX so it's not jumping around between speeds (as long as the signal strength is very good) on a dynamic level.

[C1REX]

Maintaining Linux seems like a game by itself. It can be a lot of fun but it’s time consuming.

[The_Abortionator]

Oprindeligt skrevet af C1REX:

Maintaining Linux seems like a game by itself. It can be a lot of fun but it’s time consuming.

Clicking an update button isnt a "game" or "time consuming" and I'm not sure what makes windows users think that.

[Electric Cupcake]

Oprindeligt skrevet af The_Abortionator:

Oprindeligt skrevet af C1REX:

Maintaining Linux seems like a game by itself. It can be a lot of fun but it’s time consuming.

Clicking an update button isnt a "game" or "time consuming" and I'm not sure what makes windows users think that.

There are several reasons why doing updates with the terminal is preferable to gui frontend. But even then, it's not a huge burden, since you can set a single-word alias for

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && flatpak update

[Viking2121]

I wont use linux, I've tried and learned a lot, but its more of an inconvenience to me than just using windows, software I've bought or use, drivers is so much fun in Linux.... I'll only use Linux if compatibility with hardware and software is not like finding a needle in a hay stack.

Linux is great for what it is and does in the server space or even some advanced users, The moment I have to type something into a black box because the OS lacks a GUI toggle or configuration like its the 80s, Im just not doing it.

I have not found great guides that tells you what this or that does, just type this and that in, and it will do this, and that, and everyone has a different way of dong the same thing it can be frustrating, linux will never be for the basic standard user, no matter how you look at it, can disagree with me all you want, but until things are streamlined and point and click out of the box, Linux will always be the underdog in the consumer desktop land. It only took a company like Valve to make it sorta somewhat a thing with main stream and people are still putting windows on them things lol.

Sorry i'm hard on linux, but good grief yall linux lovers are not even great to them who are trying to get into the whole linux thing, its comical.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I just don't see the point. It doesn't make life any easier.
For people like myself who never had the time and only dabbled in Linux a little here and there since 2001, here we are in 2025 and I just still see zero point in Linux. There are certain PCs that might need it for certain scenarios. Like a Server. But for a Workstation or Gaming PC, LOL NO.

Instead of people complaining about this or that, they should be spending all of that time just tweaking WinOS. It's not hard to do. Instead of being a cry-baby about how certain things function in WinOS. Mostly everything in Win10/11 you can change easily yourself even the GUI looks and such. Why people act like WinOS is hard. Maybe if you are new to it, but then that can go for anything out there. Linux isn't exactly as straight-forward and so many seem to want to suggest. Much of what you need to do in Linux does rely on doing commands in the terminal to execute certain actions or to tweak the OS. So overall it's more of the same, just with a different look/layout.

It's worse then trying to switch from Android to iOS or vice-versa. Many good apps on Android aren't on iOS or have something similar available on said OS. Just an example but overall the biggest thing is, Linux isn't any easier over WinOS. If anything there is much more a user needs to learn with Linux and the overall way you go about doing something might differ depending on the Linux distro.