Need some advice on best upgrading build.

[Vardan]

I’m currently working on upgrading my current gaming desktop to a fast build from 3070 graphics card. I’ve also decided to upgrade everything as a few other parts need it.

On PCpartbuilder-

I’ve build a few options on a new gaming desktop. I’m thinking of getting this done at centrecom as I organically got this custom built desktop from Centrecom at sunshine 5 years ago.

1. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6CVcTM
Sapphire Nitro Graphics Card
2. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HVTJfd
Sapphire Nitro Graphics card
3. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhJfPJ
Sapphire nitro graphics card
4. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gm3y4p
Hellhound Graphics Card
5. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MH8rrM Hellhound Graphics Card
6. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bkgbh7
HellHound Graphics Card

These are 6 different builds. If someone could let me know which graphics card and motherboard is the best option that would be good.

[smokerob79]

looked at a couple of them.....first and for most only get 1 set of memory sticks......2 sticks are the only way you can hit 6000 speeds......using 4 sticks will never allow you to hit 6000.......other then that i would go with a thermalright CPU cooler over a coolermaster......

[Mr. Hubble]

If you have an Amazon account check out their Motherboard and GPU combos.

[SlowClick]

I'm in Melbs too and get my stuff (including having my PC built ) at Scorptec in Clayton. I Recommend them.
They also have a 'PC builder' widget.

[RMJ]

This completely depends on what type of machine you want! I have been designing- building systems for well over 25 years.

Personally I would never build a "new" PC. Complete waste of $.

I want my PC to be able to run "ANY" OS. Not a limited PC. This takes knowing OS's and hardware and what allows what?

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need! And DX12 ABUSE is not forced on these older rigs, Which is why so many have so many issues running older games on 10-11 on systems with 12-40 cores = rediculous!

As for GPU's I gave up testing "Gefarce" = too many issues. I prefer AMD GPU's = STABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use old 2020 drivers for windows 7 and 2022 Drivers for windows 11.


Stay away from ASUS. I have replaced more ASUS hardware than any other- JUNK!

[Vardan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av smokerob79:

looked at a couple of them.....first and for most only get 1 set of memory sticks......2 sticks are the only way you can hit 6000 speeds......using 4 sticks will never allow you to hit 6000.......other then that i would go with a thermalright CPU cooler over a coolermaster......

How come?

So would one of those memory sticks be enough?

Which thermalright cpu cooler would you recommend?

[Vardan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowClick:

I'm in Melbs too and get my stuff (including having my PC built ) at Scorptec in Clayton. I Recommend them.
They also have a 'PC builder' widget.

Scorptec I did look online when I was interested a custom build. But since I love my computer currently and need to upgrade it. Looking at the parts. Although many people recommend the hellhound graphics card over sapphire.

[Vardan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av RMJ:

This completely depends on what type of machine you want! I have been designing- building systems for well over 25 years.

Personally I would never build a "new" PC. Complete waste of $.

I want my PC to be able to run "ANY" OS. Not a limited PC. This takes knowing OS's and hardware and what allows what?

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need! And DX12 ABUSE is not forced on these older rigs, Which is why so many have so many issues running older games on 10-11 on systems with 12-40 cores = rediculous!

As for GPU's I gave up testing "Gefarce" = too many issues. I prefer AMD GPU's = STABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use old 2020 drivers for windows 7 and 2022 Drivers for windows 11.


Stay away from ASUS. I have replaced more ASUS hardware than any other- JUNK!

Really want to build a powerful computer that can handle everything include powerful games for many many years and handle animation and video editing software. I’m avoiding the 4000 graphics card due to the issues with them firing and catching on fire. Plus many people recommend the 7900xt over the 4080 anyway

[Ralf]

Ursprungligen skrivet av RMJ:

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need!

They don't, they are quad core trash.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Vardan:

Plus many people recommend the 7900xt over the 4080 anyway

4080 is better than XTX let alone the XT.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gpu-test-system-update-for-2025/2.html

[smokerob79]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Vardan:

Ursprungligen skrivet av smokerob79:

looked at a couple of them.....first and for most only get 1 set of memory sticks......2 sticks are the only way you can hit 6000 speeds......using 4 sticks will never allow you to hit 6000.......other then that i would go with a thermalright CPU cooler over a coolermaster......

How come?

So would one of those memory sticks be enough?

Which thermalright cpu cooler would you recommend?

any memory set with EXPO and remember you want 2 sticks not 1 or 4......

as for the coolers any of the thermalrights would work.....

and most people are right.....a base level 7900XT will beat a 4080 most days of the week when not accounting for anything ray tracing.....

[☄️⁧⁧Sneakydude555]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ralf:

Ursprungligen skrivet av RMJ:

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need!

They don't, they are quad core trash.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Vardan:

Plus many people recommend the 7900xt over the 4080 anyway

4080 is better than XTX let alone the XT.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gpu-test-system-update-for-2025/2.html

Depending on OP's Budget i would still rather get a 7900XT. 4070 TI and the Regular 4070 are both scam GPUs IMHO due to those two cards performing terribly at 4K and having limited VRAM. The 4080 is technically a gaming GPU now, since NVIDIA is slowly going towards productivity with the higher end cards than just purely gaming. Compared to the 3080 it was just a regular high end GPU.

I would personally recommend OP 4070 TI super For a mix of productivity, gaming (like streaming/ rendering videos) and ray tracing performance due it being a NVIDIA card or you can just get a 7900XT just purely for gaming. Considering you just want a gaming PC 7900XT is more than enough for you for what games you want to play.


OR

If you do more productivity considering the system you have in your PCpartpicker list, then a 4080 will help you more than enough.

I am not sure about the motherboard, im not educated enough knowing DDR5 Motherboards yet....

[r.linder]

Get the best GPU you can afford, Sapphire NITRO+ 7900-XTX definitely isn't bad considering that it performs at least as good as a 4080, the caveat is that it uses about as much power as a 4090 FE to get there. A 4080 only makes sense for users that are interested in NVIDIA's technologies like DLSS, CUDA, NVEC, etc. as well as NVIDIA's superior raytracing capabilities, also people who are interested in better performance per watt.

Ursprungligen skrivet av RMJ:

This completely depends on what type of machine you want! I have been designing- building systems for well over 25 years.

Personally I would never build a "new" PC. Complete waste of $.

I want my PC to be able to run "ANY" OS. Not a limited PC. This takes knowing OS's and hardware and what allows what?

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need! And DX12 ABUSE is not forced on these older rigs, Which is why so many have so many issues running older games on 10-11 on systems with 12-40 cores = rediculous!

As for GPU's I gave up testing "Gefarce" = too many issues. I prefer AMD GPU's = STABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use old 2020 drivers for windows 7 and 2022 Drivers for windows 11.


Stay away from ASUS. I have replaced more ASUS hardware than any other- JUNK!

...There is so much wrong with this.

There's no such thing as a "limited" PC in terms of what operating system it can run. All of these brands run fine on Linux.

Intel was limited up to 4 cores on the mainstream consumer sockets (i.e. LGA1151) until 8th generation, which went up to 6, they only went up to 8 cores with the 9th generation. The core performance of those processors are also vastly behind for modern gaming, to advise buying those chips is just laughably terrible advice.

The reason why older games have problems running on Windows 10 and 11 is because of compatibility, not because of core count, dude. It used to be a lot worse if you ran Vista back in the day because a lot of software just had problems with it. No, this isn't a hardware issue, it's an operating system issue that's more or less unavoidable, because as software changes with time, older software that doesn't change can end up having issues running on machines with newer software.
A lot of older games (particularly DX9 games) actually run better on Linux and with fewer problems thanks to DXVK, and you can apply that to Windows as well to get more or less the same result, makes a huge difference because DirectX by itself is awful.

GeForce GPUs aren't less stable than Radeon GPUs, it's the other way around. NVIDIA has fewer RMAs than AMD on average, and it's not a small margin either, the majority of buyers are going with NVIDIA (at least over 80%) but they still have fewer RMAs, and considering that AMD sells less than 15% of total GPU sales worldwide, that's pretty freaking bad.
AMD's drivers also aren't notorious for no reason, their drivers are factually just not as stable and prone to issues which drove a lot of users away because they couldn't escape the problems because AMD wasn't fixing them. Friends of mine bit the bullet and returned or sold their 7900-XTXs to get 4080s and 4090s because they kept ending up with bad cards that had defects, ran too hot and overheated often out of the box, or just had issues performing consistently, and I had some of these same issues YEARS ago with the RX 5700-XT, it ran ridiculously hot so the fans had to be ramped up constantly while gaming and the AORUS cooler was absurdly loud above 50%, and over 66% it literally started to cause the computer case to vibrate. RX 400 and 500 series also had a really high failure rate because they were popular with cryptominers, which only exposes how bad the quality has been for awhile, they've definitely improved their quality a bit since then but they still have much to work on.

Running older drivers is only going to hurt performance, more so on AMD as they're always increasing performance with newer driver versions.

[Vardan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sneakydude555:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ralf:

They don't, they are quad core trash.


4080 is better than XTX let alone the XT.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gpu-test-system-update-for-2025/2.html

Depending on OP's Budget i would still rather get a 7900XT. 4070 TI and the Regular 4070 are both scam GPUs IMHO due to those two cards performing terribly at 4K and having limited VRAM. The 4080 is technically a gaming GPU now, since NVIDIA is slowly going towards productivity with the higher end cards than just purely gaming. Compared to the 3080 it was just a regular high end GPU.

I would personally recommend OP 4070 TI super For a mix of productivity, gaming (like streaming/ rendering videos) and ray tracing performance due it being a NVIDIA card or you can just get a 7900XT just purely for gaming. Considering you just want a gaming PC 7900XT is more than enough for you for what games you want to play.


OR

If you do more productivity considering the system you have in your PCpartpicker list, then a 4080 will help you more than enough.

I am not sure about the motherboard, im not educated enough knowing DDR5 Motherboards yet....

Yeah I enjoyed the 3000 series. My 3070 to has being great but sadly the card is bent due to heavy use and never having a bracket supporter.

My next build I will have a bracket support for the graphics card.

Sadly now the 4080 and 90 in particular still have problems and I just don’t want the drama of a graphics card catching fire because off NVidia

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Ursprungligen skrivet av RMJ:

This completely depends on what type of machine you want! I have been designing- building systems for well over 25 years.

Personally I would never build a "new" PC. Complete waste of $.

I want my PC to be able to run "ANY" OS. Not a limited PC. This takes knowing OS's and hardware and what allows what?

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need! And DX12 ABUSE is not forced on these older rigs, Which is why so many have so many issues running older games on 10-11 on systems with 12-40 cores = rediculous!

As for GPU's I gave up testing "Gefarce" = too many issues. I prefer AMD GPU's = STABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use old 2020 drivers for windows 7 and 2022 Drivers for windows 11.


Stay away from ASUS. I have replaced more ASUS hardware than any other- JUNK!

+ rep

The fact that you got a joker award speaks volumes on the brainwashing that the tech industry is capable of on these forums. I absolutely agree, new hardware is less versatile.

[r.linder]

Ursprungligen skrivet av GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:

Ursprungligen skrivet av RMJ:

This completely depends on what type of machine you want! I have been designing- building systems for well over 25 years.

Personally I would never build a "new" PC. Complete waste of $.

I want my PC to be able to run "ANY" OS. Not a limited PC. This takes knowing OS's and hardware and what allows what?

I suggest getting 6th - 7th gen i7 INTEL refurb rig. They have 8 cores, all you really need! And DX12 ABUSE is not forced on these older rigs, Which is why so many have so many issues running older games on 10-11 on systems with 12-40 cores = rediculous!

As for GPU's I gave up testing "Gefarce" = too many issues. I prefer AMD GPU's = STABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use old 2020 drivers for windows 7 and 2022 Drivers for windows 11.


Stay away from ASUS. I have replaced more ASUS hardware than any other- JUNK!

+ rep

The fact that you got a joker award speaks volumes on the brainwashing that the tech industry is capable of on these forums. I absolutely agree, new hardware is less versatile.

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