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Take it with a grain of salt. But it does jive with how Nvidia has lately been pricing their tiers. https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-rumored-to-feature-a-whopping-1500-msrp/amp/
NVIDIA knows gamers will pay $$$ no matter the price. It started with the TITAN series, now the zz90 series.
xx90x series will be sold out and scalpers will be selling for $4000-5000!!!!!!!!
As long as UE5 has crap optimization, all that raw power is wasted. And so is the money. The current most popular games are as usual live service games and RPGs. Neither of which demand as much GPU horsepower. And the latter usually need a beefier CPU than GPU.
RTX 3080 owner here for 3 years.
Not complaining at all. Running all games to the max with fluid fps on HD.
Who needs "Cinema screens" with 30 GB cards that cost the exact same price of a whole PC ????
People love racing, be the first, have the best, feed the industry with their gold filled pockets.... but then for what exactly ?
People with RTX 3080 have LESS PROBLEMS than people with RTX 40XX series who complain so much more on the forums. They follow hype waves and then ask themselves and complain why things don't work their way.
Higher numbers don't mean best performance or better stability or better picture.
If 4 is higher than 3 .... and 4 is way more unstable than 3 with just a little bit more " marketing picture quality" well......there will still be people choosing 4 instead of 3 but flamming the forums afterwards.
They want to be in the race......while others are spectators, grinning in the dark....
This will never change.
Even if you take this rumor at face value, if you take the AUD listing price and remove the GST from it and then do the current currency conversion to USD you'd get a price around $1299. The listing, if real, is also not of the Nvidia RTX 5080 FE card and is from an Asus RTX 5080 OC AIB model that would likely be about $100 - $200 over MSRP of the FE card.
EDIT: In case you can't maths that out; would put the MSRP of the FE model in the ball park of $999 - $1199.
what are you even talking about??? 3000 series has a ton of problems....you need to start watching repair videos on youtube.....
Prices must reflect this new inability to get materials.
-Gallium, germanium
I don't see how these metals are used in a modern processor, nor what's stopping them from being exported to somewhere else, like Malaysia, and then shipped as product to the US.
A.M.D. announced that they weren't going to make a new flagship product, and their current flagship product is only about as strong as the RTX 4080. The next RTX 80 class card is likely to be about as powerful as a 4090, which sells for more like $1700 at least, so this is a good $200 off for the same level of performance. Intel doesn't make cards anywhere near this high up the stack either: They're focusing on the neglected entry to mid-range price brackets (I'm expecting a hypothetical B770 to be somewhere around $400-550)
People were saying that the $1000 RTX 4080 Super was a much better deal than the original $1200 RTX 4080 when it only had a 3% perf. increase. Knocking $200 off for the price something like a ten or twenty percent perf. increase, especially when you have no competition in the performance class seems like an objectively superior deal. Granted, $200 is a smaller proportion of 1700 than 1200, but not by so much.
Nvidia don't have to worry about an RX 8900 XTX raining on their parade, unless A.M.D. is playing the misdirection game with their announcements but that's a risky game because you're also lying to your customers in a way that might just lead them to buy a 4090 prematurely, losing A.M.D. the hypothetical RX 8900 XT sale while earning their ire for misinforming them about their purchasing options, also possibly losing you the next upgrade's sale too if they customer is feeling spiteful over your misleading marketing practices.
And I mean the tariffs are why the 4090 is $1700 instead of $1500 itself, and not only do those still apply since Biden never removed the old ones, but they might get worse. Nvidia's probably going to factor that into their M.S.R.P. just to make sure that they don't have to raise it later down the line, and if it turns out that Trump is just huffing hot air, then the sale prices get to be marked down by higher amounts, making customers feel smarter over their purchasing decisions even though they're effectively paying the same price.
Won't matter much to me. As a sane person, I'm not looking to buy a card that costs quadruple digits, and I don't particularly care what they do at the top of the stack. The most expensive graphics card was never meant to be for the average customer. The real question is going to be what sort of perf. increase will they offer in the lower price brackets over existing product in the same price brackets, where they do still have to compete against A.M.D. and Intel (unless Nvidia wants to abdicate their market share leader throne).
Well arguably "nothing" on the surface, of course that extra shipping and customs and what not takes time and money, and time is money.
But consider this, Chinese companies are mining rare earths and they're subject to Chinese laws. How do you think Chinese government would feel about "just do extra steps" to bypass their sanctions? Do you think businesses selling strategic resources can just sell to anyone in a hat and trenchcoat, or someone wearing a fake mustache and glasses? Probably not.
How do you think that would play in the U.S. to China pipeline with restricted technology?
Maybe both governments have thought of your workaround like a million years ago. And maybe businesses have to think very carefully about violating sanctions by pretending an extra hop is all good.
Sure you may not be able to prevent some sanctioned items passing through enough hands to get from point A to point Z, but how do you think that affects time and cost in addition to quantities?
And then also, maybe China pressures Malaysia to not allow those sort of shenanigans lest they get their own sanctions. It's not like China is some tiny country that is a small potatoes trading partner for a lot of nations.
Point is, things get complicated real fast and everyone has to look out for themselves first and it's not just as simple as adding an extra hop or two to the process.
But if it were to be $1,500, I wouldn't be surprised, at least not if it's pretty near the RTX 4090, because...
1. The RTX 4090 went up from its $1,600 MSRP to between $2000 and $2500 and people still ate it up after its original "it's a better value than the x80" reason changed long ago (before anyone wants to be snarky and say "the high end doesn't are about value and pays premiums for the best", yeah, duh, but this last time around, the upper SKU was more popular specifically because people who wouldn't have originally bought it also did so, and they did so precisely because it was a better value than the SKU below it). So in short, this level of performance is currently selling for $2,000+ and people are eating it up.
2. This level of performance has no competition now, and probably won't next generation either, so the need to improve price/performance at this spot is even smaller. The rumors are that AMD's upcoming RX 9070 XT won't compete with the RTX 5070 Ti+, so it depends on exactly where the RTX 5070 Ti and 5080 land in performance on where they will be priced.
3. Tariffs inbound?
4. "Inflation excuse magic want".
All four of these can be summarized as "nVidia will charge what the market will bear". They aren't a charity trying to make things better for gamers unfortunately; they are a business and more importantly a highly valued publicly traded business looking to extract as much profit as possible. They want to charge as much as possible and give as little as possible. We as consumers want the opposite; we want as much as possible for the lowest price possible. These directly work against one another, so the unspoken agreed upon compromise ina given market is usually "whatever the market is willing to bear".
If people are willing to buy it, can we really complain? Sure, because we are individuals and not a monolith. I do it all the time... but just realize it means you're probably no longer the target audience for that particular product, and therefore you need to either accept spending up or choose an alternative (in my case, I did both, and I was pretty happy despite that). If you shoehorn yourself into specific options based on the brand or number tier labeled on a given product, then that is on you.
(None of this is directed at you Iggy Wolf, but rather they are just statements to those it may apply to.)
As someone who played the game, it's traversal stutter and is going to be CPU side, not GPU side. It happens on the consoles too.
Personally, I wasn't bothered by it. Yes, it happens of course because it happens for everyone, but it didn't stop the game from being my favorite of the year.
I also have a little less tolerance for some of the whining gamers do when they are routinely blaming the game for crashing and, surprise surprise, it's often shader compilation crashing and they have a Raptor Lake CPU, but they yell at you that "my system is fine, it's the game because other things work fine/the DirectX 11 workaround works fine" and I give up with these people.
A lot of people think buying a given high end product entitles them to performance that will never dip below whatever their personal desirable level is, and... that's never how the hardware and software market worked.
This!
Though, I'm again expecting more the big gains to again be at the top while mediocre gains occur further down the stack.