64 GB RAM modules.

[PaulKrawitz]

Will we ever have 64 GB RAM modules for gaming PCs in the foreseeable future?

I wanna have 128 GB of RAM, but I don't want four modules as that would reduce the performance.

The largest modules I've seen support 48 GB; unfortunately, I heard that AMD CPUs do not like such uneven modules.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Origineel geplaatst door Omega:

Origineel geplaatst door WinterSolstice:

We have 32GB RAM sticks in 64GB kits, so I will say yes, 64GB RAM sticks and 128GB RAM kits are in the future.

They already exist, just not for consumers.

In time, my friend, in due time.

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Scientist:

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

Yeah, but I still wanna game on it too.

To emphasize; I use an 8-Dimm HEDT system, you can most certainly game on a HEDT system. Just comes down to how much you really want to spend and how much do you really need the specs.

I would like to hear more about this setup.

[PaulKrawitz]

Origineel geplaatst door smokerob79:

cries on a gaming rig about needing a real work station.....face it you should never be on a gaming rig if you really can use any where near 128gb of memory.....

on top of that you dont seem to understand a lot of things....like memory scaling.....

That's because I've only used laptops, so far... this is my first PC; I'm sure you weren't born with PC knowledge.

[wesnef]

"This is my first desktop" and "I wanna build a $8k+ uber monster because NSFW" seems like a mistake.

[PaulKrawitz]

Origineel geplaatst door wesnef:

"This is my first desktop" and "I wanna build a $8k+ uber monster because NSFW" seems like a mistake.

Not just for my NSFW stuff, but for gaming as well... I must centralize gaming and creation in a single machine due to space and electricity limitations.

[smokerob79]

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

Origineel geplaatst door smokerob79:

cries on a gaming rig about needing a real work station.....face it you should never be on a gaming rig if you really can use any where near 128gb of memory.....

on top of that you dont seem to understand a lot of things....like memory scaling.....

That's because I've only used laptops, so far... this is my first PC; I'm sure you weren't born with PC knowledge.

yeah i kinda was....old man is a engineer.....if i had a dollar for every time i have heard the phrase "i had to get a degree to understand that" i would be a billionaire......not joking on that....I hear it all the time from a engineer that works for Lockheed Martin on the Artemis project.....also hear it from a head of IT running a data base for VA hospitals....and 2 more people with doctorates.......most people were not using soldering irons at 5 years old to fix broken portable radios and walkmens for candy money

your right i should come at things different.....

so lets try it again.....YOU NEED A WORK STATION......there is no way around it if you are going to want to run these types of loads....memory scaling is limited and the only way to really get to these type of numbers is by going beyond the 2 lanes most consumer grade CPU's have.....

in the olden days some had to go as far as adding a whole second CPU's to the motherboard just to get the memory they wanted to use , it was such a problem GPU's could even do it with one of SLI's options being a shared memory pool between 2 GPU's when the second GPU would not run calculations.....this is still a option in current workstation GPU's......

you really need to look in to current CPU's with a 4 channel controller and then find one of the better workstation motherboards with only 4 total slots....then find dual rank sticks to fill them in a real matched in the same box set (not 2 2 stick sets of the same model....i mean a real 4 stick set only in a single box)

4 slots give you the capacity your after and the 4 channel controller will let you keep higher timings and total speeds....at that point 4 48gb sticks is no longer a limitation

[Mad Scientist]

Origineel geplaatst door smokerob79:

cries on a gaming rig about needing a real work station.....face it you should never be on a gaming rig if you really can use any where near 128gb of memory.....

on top of that you dont seem to understand a lot of things....like memory scaling.....

People that do a bit of everything can have 128GB of memory especially if they do their own production work, graphics, etc and the load is enough to justify it or want the amount to never run out of resources for the task(s).

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

Not just for my NSFW stuff, but for gaming as well... I must centralize gaming and creation in a single machine due to space and electricity limitations.

artwork isn't going to use much for resources overall unless you're doing enough tasking VFX over time as renderings. Don't try to go for 128GB if you're just making random nsfw 2D content as an example. You should have a need for a high amount of RAM and need the overhead that amount can provide.

How much RAM/VRAM do you actually consume that would need more? What exact type of work do you do, and what is your average and peak resource demands?

Origineel geplaatst door smokerob79:

so lets try it again.....YOU NEED A WORK STATION

For what? OP hasn't really demonstrated a need for a workstation unless OP provides example of the kind of demand they want to put on the system or being unable to handle it as-is; though it comes down to "how much is missing" and "how much is safe or completely overkill?"

Origineel geplaatst door smokerob79:

there is no way around it if you are going to want to run these types of loads

What loads would that be? Really not enough information to tell people to get a workstation and tons of memory.

[PaulKrawitz]

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Scientist:

artwork isn't going to use much for resources overall unless you're doing enough tasking VFX over time as renderings. Don't try to go for 128GB if you're just making random nsfw 2D content as an example. You should have a need for a high amount of RAM and need the overhead that amount can provide.

How much RAM/VRAM do you actually consume that would need more? What exact type of work do you do, and what is your average and peak resource demands?

I appreciate your... cordial standpoint... some people in this thread seem to be overly hostile, for whatever reason.

As for the NSFW stuff itself:

I create my artwork in a simple editing software program known as "Paint.net", a program for Windows.

Then I refine and enhance it via AI upscaling.

Each image has a size of around 10 - 25 MB, per file.

Then I zip my updated archive it into a zip archive at maximum compression rate (99%) via 7Zip to upload it to my Telegram channel.

I share my stuff on Telegram free of charge; I don't like to make money with it as it's just a hobby afterall.

During this compression my old laptop was easily using 100% of my processor and 128/128 GB of available RAM.

Now that I have "only" 64 GB of RAM I fear that it could significantly increase the compression time.

That is all I do, besides playing games.

The screen of the old laptop I was using (MSI TITAN GT 77 UHS) experienced an... early retirement... unfortunately.

[Mad Scientist]

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

I create my artwork in a simple editing software known as Paint.net, a program for Windows.

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

During this compression my old laptop was easily using 100% of my processor and 128/128 GB of available RAM.

Are you absolutely certain that is in GBs and it was 128? I could see a laptop with 12GBs or 16GBs, but not 128GB especially for an old one, or mostly any laptop.

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

Now that I have "only" 64 GB of RAM I fear that it could significantly increase the compression time

That is all I do, besides playing games.

Not even sure how you'd use that much with a program like that, even 3-digits of layers with heavy VFX per layer at about 5 minutes takes 55GBs for me.

[PaulKrawitz]

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Scientist:

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

I create my artwork in a simple editing software known as Paint.net, a program for Windows.

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

During this compression my old laptop was easily using 100% of my processor and 128/128 GB of available RAM.

Are you absolutely certain that is in GBs and it was 128? I could see a laptop with 12GBs or 16GBs, but not 128GB especially for an old one, or mostly any laptop.

I had an upgraded version of the MSI TITAN GT77 UHS laptop; that thing was an absolute beast.

[PaulKrawitz]

Origineel geplaatst door Mad Scientist:

Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

Now that I have "only" 64 GB of RAM I fear that it could significantly increase the compression time

That is all I do, besides playing games.

Not even sure how you'd use that much with a program like that, even 3-digits of layers with heavy VFX per layer at about 5 minutes takes 55GBs for me. :BL3Shrug:

7Zip can easily use 128 GB of RAM with the best available compression method.

[Trout]

DO NOT CHECK OP'S TELEGRAM CHANNEL

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Modern consumer boards usually don't have support for 64GB modules. But if you can do a kit, 2x 48GB is a decent choice

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Origineel geplaatst door PaulKrawitz:

Origineel geplaatst door Omega:

If you need such amounts of memory you are probably not just a gamer. Buy a Xeon or Epyc instead and cough up the cash for high capacity memory modules.

No more cash available... I spent 7.600 € on my PC. 😆

I create NSWF... "art"... hence the high RAM requirement.

I can easily use up to 128 GB of RAM during processing.

You mean like deepfake stuff that could get you into some sort of trouble? Doubt it needs the lowest latency possible.

[_I_]

there are 64g dimms

and the op is already banned, so let this sink

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Origineel geplaatst door _I_:

there are 64g dimms

and the op is already banned, so let this sink

For desktop systems? I'm currently running on 2x48.