Is it worth getting the 4060 Ti 8GB, or should I hold out for a 4060 Ti 16GB

[Quadsword]

Background: I don't do 4k gaming. I'm the kind of guy that will crank the settings down as low as they'll go (without turning the game into a blurry mess, of course) to maximize my frame rate. Generally, I'm cool with a mix of medium to high settings and a frame rate that stays above 80.

I need something to replace the fossil that is my 2060, but I've looked at retailers all around me and none of them have 4060 Ti 16GB cards in stock. For most of them, their estimate was end of January, beginning of February when they'll have them in stock again (realistically, they probably won't have them in stock until March). Meanwhile, I could get a 4060 Ti 8GB and have it on my doorstop ready to install by Christmas Eve.

Path of Exile 2 runs surprisingly well on this old rig (never went below 80 fps), but Baldur's Gate 3 was down in the 30s (granted, that's in act 3 which is notoriously unoptimized), and there's absolutely no chance this thing will run Monster Hunter Wilds unless someone at Capcom works some black magic with the optimization.

I know the 5000 series cards aren't far off, so maybe it'd be best to just skip the 4000 series and wait until then?

[smokerob79]

Publicado originalmente por wesnef:

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

The way it is now; if you can't afford to jump on a good GPU for $600+ then you might as well just go buy the latest Xbox or PS.

That's pretty silly, considering how many other things PC gaming brings to the table beyond "MOAR FPS! RAAAAA!"

yeah but at one point would it be cheaper to just buy the console and keep any PC for all the old games???.....if the old PC is only being replaced to play newer games the consoles would be the cheaper option with the delusions NgreedyA should see 1000 to 2 GRAND for a GPU......

im sick of playing games....10 series will go down as one of the best value GPU runs in history only to have NgreedyA kill the best GPU maker on the planet (RIP EVGA) with the 20 series and release of the 30 series.....its so bad you can still get new in the box EVGA 2080ti's that just never sold....to now having to deal with the BS Vram is just to much money for the investors to agree to......

[Ghost Robertson]

Is it worth getting the 4060 Ti 8GB, or should I hold out for a 4060 Ti 16GB

Well i have a RTX 4060 Ti 8GB and runs my games well at 1080p, my cpu is an i5 12400F and 32GB DDR4 memory.

You can look at my games list to see the games i play, I've got too many to mention.

Publicado originalmente por GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:

You only get 8 express lanes with the 4060 and 4060ti. This goes in a 16 lane slot. 8 lanes are just wasted on this stupid, cringe, cheap design.

Well he didn't say what motherboard he has afaik, The difference between a pci-e 3.0 slot and 4.0 slot matters a little and if he has a 5.0 slot then waiting for the RTX 5xxx series would be great.

[AmaiAmai]

Publicado originalmente por smokerob79:

Publicado originalmente por wesnef:

That's pretty silly, considering how many other things PC gaming brings to the table beyond "MOAR FPS! RAAAAA!"

yeah but at one point would it be cheaper to just buy the console and keep any PC for all the old games???.....if the old PC is only being replaced to play newer games the consoles would be the cheaper option with the delusions NgreedyA should see 1000 to 2 GRAND for a GPU......

im sick of playing games....10 series will go down as one of the best value GPU runs in history only to have NgreedyA kill the best GPU maker on the planet (RIP EVGA) with the 20 series and release of the 30 series.....its so bad you can still get new in the box EVGA 2080ti's that just never sold....to now having to deal with the BS Vram is just to much money for the investors to agree to......

How often do console games drop in price? I ask because I can get games for much cheaper on PC, even from the developers themselves. The utility of a PC is also part of its value.

That you can't play some games because they run like a bloated, buggy mess due to incompetent devs that push out bad products doesn't diminish the value of a PC at all; it means the game itself is of bad value.

That's why I haven't touched garbage like Black Myth: Wukong or other games that need top end hardware and still need upscaling nonsense.

With how generic games are these days, you aren't missing anything by skipping some IMO. But I understand not everyone can do that.

[Quadsword]

Publicado originalmente por AmaiAmai:

How often do console games drop in price? I ask because I can get games for much cheaper on PC, even from the developers themselves. The utility of a PC is also part of its value.

In my experience, not only do console games rarely go on sale (and there aren't nearly as many sites selling Xbox or PlayStation game keys are there are Steam), but the consoles themselves hardly ever drop in price. The Xbox Series X and base PS5 are still $500 even after 4 years.

[smokerob79]

Publicado originalmente por AmaiAmai:

Publicado originalmente por smokerob79:

yeah but at one point would it be cheaper to just buy the console and keep any PC for all the old games???.....if the old PC is only being replaced to play newer games the consoles would be the cheaper option with the delusions NgreedyA should see 1000 to 2 GRAND for a GPU......

im sick of playing games....10 series will go down as one of the best value GPU runs in history only to have NgreedyA kill the best GPU maker on the planet (RIP EVGA) with the 20 series and release of the 30 series.....its so bad you can still get new in the box EVGA 2080ti's that just never sold....to now having to deal with the BS Vram is just to much money for the investors to agree to......

How often do console games drop in price? I ask because I can get games for much cheaper on PC, even from the developers themselves. The utility of a PC is also part of its value.

That you can't play some games because they run like a bloated, buggy mess due to incompetent devs that push out bad products doesn't diminish the value of a PC at all; it means the game itself is of bad value.

That's why I haven't touched garbage like Black Myth: Wukong or other games that need top end hardware and still need upscaling nonsense.

With how generic games are these days, you aren't missing anything by skipping some IMO. But I understand not everyone can do that.

NO YOU CANT.....prices on PC are the same as consoles now as Gabe thinks he can take a 30% cut like he is nintendo.....steaming piles sales dont even match what Sony is doing in the first year of sales anymore.....but never mind the market shift in the last decade you missed.....


and real world games are getting better and the hardware is needed....let me guess you still think Mario 64 could have been done on the SNES if they had just optimized it.......

[Quadsword]

Publicado originalmente por smokerob79:

but never mind the market shift in the last decade you missed.....

You mean the market shift where both PlayStation and Xbox are putting their games on Steam because the console market is stagnating (Phil Spencer's words, not mine)?

[AmaiAmai]

Publicado originalmente por smokerob79:

and real world games are getting better and the hardware is needed....let me guess you still think Mario 64 could have been done on the SNES if they had just optimized it.......

The difference is that we went from (x,y) coordinates to (x,y,z) on N64 and clever transformations that simulated an (x,y,z) system.

Where, in modern graphics, is a shift like that occurring? More compute power is apparently not needed when some games can handle the same fidelity and not run like a buggy mess where others cannot.

What's the difference when that happens?

How come Cyberpunk ran so badly at launch and mysteriously runs way better now?

The answer is because it was a rushed product with little to no optimisation. That is fact, and it's literally proved by the fact that it could be improved upon later with the hardware constant.

If software cannot leverage current hardware, due to incompetence in the development phase, it is a failed project.

Only in game development (and apparently Microsoft Windows) is it acceptable to release poorly developed and optimised software and then expect consumers to pay more for the privilege of the experience.

But gamers themselves are pushing this culture and apparently endorsing the practice, I will not.

[Quadsword]

Doing some price comparisons right now, and... wow. I didn't realize how stingy NVidia was with VRAM. An AMD 7800 XT has double the VRAM of a 4060 whilst not being that much pricier.

Well, I guess I know what I'm getting for my next build.

[Tonepoet]

Publicado originalmente por Quadsword:

Doing some price comparisons right now, and... wow. I didn't realize how stingy NVidia was with VRAM. An AMD 7800 XT has double the VRAM of a 4060 whilst not being that much pricier.

Well, I guess I know what I'm getting for my next build.

The 7800 XT isn't considered a very big upgrade over the 6800 XT, and the 6800 XT was much cheaper up until the stock of the reasonably priced models ran out for the holiday shopping season.

We're probably saying the 8800 XT and the 8600 XT are set to be announced at C.E.S. too, and the Arc B580 is supposed to restock weekly.