Does FSR lookg better on AMD GPUs?

[Anime-Profile-Picture]

So I'm planning a big PC upgrade for the new Doom. I really really do not want to get another NVIDIA card, but I don't have to budget to get something so good I won't need upsampling to reach 120fps. The main reason I haven't considered an AMD GPU in the past is because when I've tried FSR, it looks so bad compared to DLSS. Like so fuzzy and blurry, DLSS looks so much better. But its occurred to me now that I've only ever seen FSR when using a NVIDIA card.
Is it possible that FSR actually looks better when running on actual AMD hardware?

[C1REX]

No, FSR does not look better on AMD and still atrocious in some games.
However, the new FSR4 will be available only on AMD and only on 90 series and it does look very promising.

Wait for new AMD GPUs and FSR4 reviews. If FSR4 delivers then AMD will be a valid option but if not then NVIDIA might be a better value. DLSS4 upscaling became magic and literally better than native.

[BurakZG]

Short (and simplified) answer is NO.

FSR (like DLSS) is just an algorithm to transform one image to another. Some hardware might be a bit optimized to run this algorithm faster, but results should be the same.
FSR (like DLSS) is still being developed and improved. You can expect next versions producing better results.

The only reason why DLSS only works on Nvidia cards is the legal team of Nvidia. They made it illegal to use this technology anywhere else and they are very agressive ensuring it.

[C1REX]

BurakZG님이 먼저 게시:

Short (and simplified) answer is NO.

FSR (like DLSS) is just an algorithm to transform one image to another. Some hardware might be a bit optimized to run this algorithm faster, but results should be the same.
FSR (like DLSS) is still being developed and improved. You can expect next versions producing better results.

The only reason why DLSS only works on Nvidia cards is the legal team of Nvidia. They made it illegal to use this technology anywhere else and they are very agressive ensuring it.

This is true but not the only reason.
DLSS requires AI cores. It needs that hardware acceleration. DLSS4 even more so to a point where DLSS4 with more heavy transformer model gives noticeably worse performance than old CNN model. More noticeable on older and lower tier GPUs with less tensor cores.
I wouldn’t be surprised if DLSS4 lowered performance on GPUs without AI hardware.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What's your full current specs?

[A&A]

The algorithm itself works the same on any GPU.
The upcoming FSR4 may use a similar approach as DLSS, but using WMMA cores instead of tensor ones. Simply leaving a part of the GPU to do absolutely nothing is a waste.

[libadwaita (she/her)]

FSR and DLSS are both crap that makes your game look like AI garbage, run the game at a lower resolution in a window instead.

[Heretic]

DLSS isn't bad, but I do run a 3440x1440 display and would only use DLSS at high quality settings. Where it is bad is in VR. It's a horrible soft image that resembles bad eyesight. In fact, FSR is better than DLSS in VR so long as there's a sharpening filter.

[Anime-Profile-Picture]

libadwaita (she/her)님이 먼저 게시:

FSR and DLSS are both crap that makes your game look like AI garbage, run the game at a lower resolution in a window instead.

Yes I know, I'm trying to pick between two evils. I refuse to run a lower resolution than 1440p and my goal is 120fps. I don't have the budget to reach that without upsampling.

[PopinFRESH]

Anime-Profile-Picture님이 먼저 게시:

...
Yes I know, I'm trying to pick between two evils. I refuse to run a lower resolution than 1440p and my goal is 120fps. I don't have the budget to reach that without upsampling.

What are your current specs, what components are you planning on upgrading (or whole new build?), and what is your budget range?

[Anime-Profile-Picture]

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

Anime-Profile-Picture님이 먼저 게시:

...
Yes I know, I'm trying to pick between two evils. I refuse to run a lower resolution than 1440p and my goal is 120fps. I don't have the budget to reach that without upsampling.

What are your current specs, what components are you planning on upgrading (or whole new build?), and what is your budget range?

Budget is max 2k GPB. Current specs are 3060ti, i9 9900k, 16bg DDR4 ram. I've wanted to upgrade for a while but no game has been worth it for me. Doom is a different story. I *need* to play that and my machine will not be able to play it how it needs to be played.

[AbedsBrother]

9900k is still a decent cpu. Double your ram to 32GB (DDR4 is cheap these days) and go for something like a 4070 Ti Super.

[PopinFRESH]

Anime-Profile-Picture님이 먼저 게시:

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

What are your current specs, what components are you planning on upgrading (or whole new build?), and what is your budget range?

Budget is max 2k GPB. Current specs are 3060ti, i9 9900k, 16bg DDR4 ram. I've wanted to upgrade for a while but no game has been worth it for me. Doom is a different story. I *need* to play that and my machine will not be able to play it how it needs to be played.

What PSU and disk(s) do you have?

You'd probably be close to be able to build a pretty decent AM5 system along with either the 5070 Ti or 9070XT (depending on whatever those benchmarks actually look like and how FSR4 actually looks).

I'd still lean toward Nvidia because while the very little we were able to see of FSR4 being shown with Ratchet & Clank looked much better than FSR 2 and 3; it still looked well behind DLSS4. The 9070 series isn't due out until March and the 5070/5070Ti are supposed to be launching in late February IIRC so if you are waiting until then to upgrade then I'd suggest to wait until DF can do a proper side-by-side of DLSS4 vs FSR4 as I'm sure they will likely try to do so.

[Anime-Profile-Picture]

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

What PSU and disk(s) do you have?

You'd probably be close to be able to build a pretty decent AM5 system along with either the 5070 Ti or 9070XT (depending on whatever those benchmarks actually look like and how FSR4 actually looks).

I'd still lean toward Nvidia because while the very little we were able to see of FSR4 being shown with Ratchet & Clank looked much better than FSR 2 and 3; it still looked well behind DLSS4. The 9070 series isn't due out until March and the 5070/5070Ti are supposed to be launching in late February IIRC so if you are waiting until then to upgrade then I'd suggest to wait until DF can do a proper side-by-side of DLSS4 vs FSR4 as I'm sure they will likely try to do so.

Yeah I'll be waiting a while either way, Doom releases in May. Just thinking about it now.
I can never remember what PSU I have. I upgraded it only just over a year ago though to something good. I have an M.2 NVME Samsung ssd for my disk

[deadshooter]

Reality is - every upscaler looks bad... unless it's the highest setting like "quality" or "ultra quality". All those "balanced" or "performance" presets are looks like crap with artifacts, flickering, ghosting or blur. DLSS is just slightly less garbage.

[Anime-Profile-Picture]

deadshooter님이 먼저 게시:

Reality is - every upscaler looks bad... unless it's the highest setting like "quality" or "ultra quality". All those "balanced" or "performance" presets are looks like crap with artifacts, flickering, ghosting or blur. DLSS is just slightly less garbage.

Okay but I'm poor.