So RTX 5080 is slower than 4090...

[Vegasskill]

...and about 20% faster in Vulkan, 6% faster in OpenCL, and 9% faster in Blender than RTX 4080.
In my opinion it's effectively the same generation as RTX 40xx, which is why they are leaning so heavily on DLSS 4. Without DLSS 4 RTX 50xx series is nothing.

I can bet that DLSS 4 could work on 40xx series but NVIDIA will block this new multi frame generation option in drivers.

Link: https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-♥♥♥♥-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090


So guys. Those of you who have RTX 4070, 4080 and 4090 cards, will you buy 5080?

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

That you say you cannot notice the difference between 60 and 120fps should really make you question if you are in any position to comment on the quality of an experience.

Whoa, calm down there, killa. No reason to be so angry. This is just a discussion about video games.

[Monk]

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

That you say you cannot notice the difference between 60 and 120fps should really make you question if you are in any position to comment on the quality of an experience.

Whoa, calm down there, killa. No reason to be so angry. This is just a discussion about video games.

See, I'm not sure if you are trying to troll, or just do not know what the word angry means, such is your level of discourse.

Have a nice day chap / lass.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Whoa, calm down there, killa. No reason to be so angry. This is just a discussion about video games.

such is your level of discourse

Personal insults like this betray your anger. It makes it clear that you are really hot under the collar, while desperately trying to hide it.

If you were not upset, you would be focused on the subject matter being discussed, rather than personal attacks.

[The Grin]

No wonder this programme's name is called " STEAM", People need to let off some steam in the forums, as tradition asks.
This is unbelievable...

And OP isn't even involved in this whole mess.

[Monk]

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

such is your level of discourse

Personal insults like this betray your anger. It makes it clear that you are really hot under the collar, while desperately trying to hide it.

If you were not upset, you would be focused on the subject matter being discussed, rather than personal attacks.

If you say so, have a nice day lass / chap

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Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

such is your level of discourse

Personal insults like this betray your anger. It makes it clear that you are really hot under the collar, while desperately trying to hide it.

If you were not upset, you would be focused on the subject matter being discussed, rather than personal attacks.

Do tell us how you calculate efficiency again genius...

Gamers Nexus 5080 Review - Efficiency FFXIV 4K[gamersnexus.net]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh PopinFRESH:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Personal insults like this betray your anger. It makes it clear that you are really hot under the collar, while desperately trying to hide it.

If you were not upset, you would be focused on the subject matter being discussed, rather than personal attacks.

Do tell us how you calculate efficiency again genius...

Gamers Nexus 5080 Review - Efficiency FFXIV 4K[gamersnexus.net]

Step 1: Turn off fake frames.
Step 2: Turn off upscaling
Step 3: Make sure everything else is the same (same cpu, benchmark tool, resolution, etc.)
Step 4: Set an FPS cap to something like 60 FPS
Step 5: Run the benchmark while monitoring the power used.

No frame cap, DLSS, and fake frames all incorrectly skew the tests.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh PopinFRESH:

Do tell us how you calculate efficiency again genius...

Gamers Nexus 5080 Review - Efficiency FFXIV 4K[gamersnexus.net]

Step 1: Turn off fake frames.
Step 2: Turn off upscaling
Step 3: Make sure everything else is the same (same cpu, benchmark tool, resolution, etc.)
Step 4: Set an FPS cap to something like 60 FPS
Step 5: Run the benchmark while monitoring the power used.

No frame cap, DLSS, and fake frames all incorrectly skew the tests.

And you fail; unless you are trying to test the efficiency of the CPU, but that isn't a surprise. What happened to just looking at the recommended PSU as you were doing previous? You still got it wrong but thats not as bad as your arguments yesterday

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Diposting pertama kali oleh PopinFRESH:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Step 1: Turn off fake frames.
Step 2: Turn off upscaling
Step 3: Make sure everything else is the same (same cpu, benchmark tool, resolution, etc.)
Step 4: Set an FPS cap to something like 60 FPS
Step 5: Run the benchmark while monitoring the power used.

No frame cap, DLSS, and fake frames all incorrectly skew the tests.

And you fail; unless you are trying to test the efficiency of the CPU, but that isn't a surprise. What happened to just looking at the recommended PSU as you were doing previous? You still got it wrong but thats not as bad as your arguments yesterday

It's like the difference between looking up a car's rated MPG and specifically going out and testing your own car's MPG.

You asked how to test it, specifically. I explained how to test it, specifically.

[Monk]

Your approach isn't really how you test effi ency, as in the case of gaming, it's meaning varies.

As or testing a cars mpg, again, depending on how you decide to test could show a big powerful engine getting better mpg than a little 1.2L 4 cylinder, of note, top gear proved this with an M3 vs a small city car at 70mph, test it around town and it swaps.

Likewise you cannot decide to do a set fps and resoloution as it will favour one option over another, at best, you can see how many fps they can get per watt, but again, low res, a cheap card will score better while high end could be cpu limited, high res, the low end card is unjustly penalised.

Really though, who cares about efficency, we're here for gaming, if you can afford the card, you can afford to run it or you cannot truly afford it.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

Your approach isn't really how you test effi ency, as in the case of gaming, it's meaning varies.

As or testing a cars mpg, again, depending on how you decide to test could show a big powerful engine getting better mpg than a little 1.2L 4 cylinder, of note, top gear proved this with an M3 vs a small city car at 70mph, test it around town and it swaps.

Likewise you cannot decide to do a set fps and resoloution as it will favour one option over another, at best, you can see how many fps they can get per watt, but again, low res, a cheap card will score better while high end could be cpu limited, high res, the low end card is unjustly penalised.

Really though, who cares about efficency, we're here for gaming, if you can afford the card, you can afford to run it or you cannot truly afford it.

My method is the correct method.

The point is that you make all matters the same, so that you can isolate the single point that you are testing.

So like if you want to know which is the most power efficient at 1080p, you use the same equipment other than swapping GPUs, you set the resolution to 1080, and you lock both to 60 FPS. Then you simply test how much wattage each setup draws.

Then if you want to test power efficiency at 4K, you repeat the above setup, but you swap only the resolution to 4k. Etc.

Essentially, you want to isolate the one parameter that you want to test. Your goal is to make every thing else, that is not being tested, as similar as possible.

[Monk]

Yes I agree there, but as I said, the efficency of 1 card at X setting is very different to another so how do you determine which combination of resoloution and fps to pick as the efficency rating as it varies so much, which is why it's kind of a pointless score to look at.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monk:

Your approach isn't really how you test effi ency, as in the case of gaming, it's meaning varies.

As or testing a cars mpg, again, depending on how you decide to test could show a big powerful engine getting better mpg than a little 1.2L 4 cylinder, of note, top gear proved this with an M3 vs a small city car at 70mph, test it around town and it swaps.

Likewise you cannot decide to do a set fps and resoloution as it will favour one option over another, at best, you can see how many fps they can get per watt, but again, low res, a cheap card will score better while high end could be cpu limited, high res, the low end card is unjustly penalised.

Really though, who cares about efficency, we're here for gaming, if you can afford the card, you can afford to run it or you cannot truly afford it.

My method is the correct method.
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No it isn't. You aren't testing the efficiency of the GPU. You shouldn't be artificially limiting any of the GPUs as that artificially changes the result. The correct method is to run the same benchmark at a sufficient resolution where the system is not CPU bound and then calculate the ratio of the number of frames during the same duration to the amount of power consumed during that period.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh PopinFRESH:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

My method is the correct method.
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No it isn't. You aren't testing the efficiency of the GPU.

WRONG.

If both GPUs are limited to 60FPS, then the amount of power each uses to reach that 60 FPS is their power efficiency.

If the 5090 is more power efficient, then it should be able to lower its power draw to match that lower FPS ask.

If you are running both cards at full tilt, then you are not testing their power efficiency.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh PopinFRESH:

No it isn't. You aren't testing the efficiency of the GPU.

WRONG.

If both GPUs are limited to 60FPS, then the amount of power each uses to reach that 60 FPS is their power efficiency.

If the 5090 is more power efficient, then it should be able to lower its power draw to match that lower FPS ask.

If you are running both cards at full tilt, then you are not testing their power efficiency.

You have no clue what you're talking about.