So RTX 5080 is slower than 4090...

[Vegasskill]

...and about 20% faster in Vulkan, 6% faster in OpenCL, and 9% faster in Blender than RTX 4080.
In my opinion it's effectively the same generation as RTX 40xx, which is why they are leaning so heavily on DLSS 4. Without DLSS 4 RTX 50xx series is nothing.

I can bet that DLSS 4 could work on 40xx series but NVIDIA will block this new multi frame generation option in drivers.

Link: https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-leak-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090


So guys. Those of you who have RTX 4070, 4080 and 4090 cards, will you buy 5080?

[Monk]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Preacher:

People are gonna buy the 5000 series? lol

Why wouldn't they if it's available? More powerful than the previous gen with more advanced versions of ai tech.

I mean, what do you expect people to buy?

AMD?

[BurakZG]

I was checking prices today in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. There was only one webshop were 5080 were available. They were selling for 1850EUR to 1999EUR and were available for a short moment only.
As twice expensive as advertised.

When a rich guy was waving a piece of plastic in the air on the big show and saying: "this piece of plastic will perform so well and it will be so cheap" my internal voice said "expect it to be much more expensive and perform way worse than advertised". First part has been confirmed today, lets wait for the second...

[Andrius227]

Opprinnelig skrevet av BurakZG:

I was checking prices today in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. There was only one webshop were 5080 were available. They were selling for 1850EUR to 1999EUR and were available for a short moment only.
As twice expensive as advertised.

When a rich guy was waving a piece of plastic in the air on the big show and saying: "this piece of plastic will perform so well and it will be so cheap" my internal voice said "expect it to be much more expensive and perform way worse than advertised". First part has been confirmed today, lets wait for the second...

Just wait a month or two and prices will drop to what they were supposed to be.

I don’t understand why people are rushing to buy them on day one and paying extra…

I will buy a 5080 for £979. I can wait with my 4080.

[Monk]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Andrius227:

Opprinnelig skrevet av BurakZG:

I was checking prices today in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. There was only one webshop were 5080 were available. They were selling for 1850EUR to 1999EUR and were available for a short moment only.
As twice expensive as advertised.

When a rich guy was waving a piece of plastic in the air on the big show and saying: "this piece of plastic will perform so well and it will be so cheap" my internal voice said "expect it to be much more expensive and perform way worse than advertised". First part has been confirmed today, lets wait for the second...

Just wait a month or two and prices will drop to what they were supposed to be.

I don’t understand why people are rushing to buy them on day one and paying extra…

I will buy a 5080 for £979. I can wait with my 4080.

The exact thought I've had.

I looked to see if there was a chance to pick one up, there wasn't, so I'll wait, it's not like our existing cards stopped working.

[C1REX]

I'm not sure if it's even worth waiting considering rumours that MSRP may not be easily available at all combined with a really small performance difference between 4080 super.

https://youtu.be/d7k4XWg-TcA?si=DyzrpENVEuHqNFIo
https://youtu.be/sEu6k-MdZgc?si=kYji5J1zn4nuMYCx

However, some benchmarkers have got better results on a well tuned Windows 10.
https://youtu.be/xc32Dvpzhmg?si=i8TdzIA8xG1E5ESt

[BurakZG]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Andrius227:

Just wait a month or two and prices will drop to what they were supposed to be.

I don’t understand why people are rushing to buy them on day one and paying extra…

I will buy a 5080 for £979. I can wait with my 4080.

Some years ago I was thinking "I'm not going to spend over 500EUR for a phone. I will wait until prices will drop..." I'm still waiting.

Nobody knows the future, me neither. My guess is "5080 for GBP 979" is not going to happen. Something around GBP 1400 in mid 2025, maybe... The time will show.

[C1REX]

Opprinnelig skrevet av BurakZG:

Nobody knows the future, me neither. My guess is "5080 for GBP 979" is not going to happen. Something around GBP 1400 in mid 2025, maybe... The time will show.

Exactly. Some were waiting for 4090 to drop in price. Who were expecting the prices to keep rising?

I’m limited to GPUs with 2xHDMI. That’s about £1500 for the cheapest 5080 model for me.

[Andrius227]

Opprinnelig skrevet av C1REX:

I'm not sure if it's even worth waiting considering rumours that MSRP may not be easily available at all combined with a really small performance difference between 4080 super.

https://youtu.be/d7k4XWg-TcA?si=DyzrpENVEuHqNFIo
https://youtu.be/sEu6k-MdZgc?si=kYji5J1zn4nuMYCx

However, some benchmarkers have got better results on a well tuned Windows 10.
https://youtu.be/xc32Dvpzhmg?si=i8TdzIA8xG1E5ESt

Performance difference is small if you only care about rasterisation, which i don’t.

5080 has more than double the tensor cores performance for DLSS/RT, which is a big deal to me.

[Monk]

Opprinnelig skrevet av C1REX:

Opprinnelig skrevet av BurakZG:

Nobody knows the future, me neither. My guess is "5080 for GBP 979" is not going to happen. Something around GBP 1400 in mid 2025, maybe... The time will show.

Exactly. Some were waiting for 4090 to drop in price. Who were expecting the prices to keep rising?

I’m limited to GPUs with 2xHDMI. That’s about £1500 for the cheapest 5080 model for me.

Why? You know you can get converters and they work just fine, right?

[C1REX]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Andrius227:

Performance difference is small if you only care about rasterisation, which i don’t.

5080 has more than double the tensor cores performance for DLSS/RT, which is a big deal to me.

This definitely doesn't translate to double RT performance. Really not much difference in some games. Literally no difference in others.
If you even get playable fps as games with path tracing struggle to reach 30fps. Games with light RT can run well even on AMD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEu6k-MdZgc&t=820s

- Alan Wake 2, RT High, 1440p+DLSS
4080 super - 67fps
5080 - 67fps

Cyberpunk, 1440+DLSS, RT ultra
4080 super - 90fps
5080 - 89
Yes, 1 fps less on 5080 at this settings.

These are two cherry picked scenarios for games with heavy RT. The 5080 wins by few percent overall and especially at 4K but it doesn't matter when you often get unplayable 30fps. Even with DLSS.

And sure, 5080 is clearly a better GPU than the 4080. No doubt. Just not better at current pricing. People speculate it can hold close to $1500 price even many months from now. You can buy a stronger, second hand 4090 for that price.

[Preacher]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Monk:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Preacher:

People are gonna buy the 5000 series? lol

Why wouldn't they if it's available? More powerful than the previous gen with more advanced versions of ai tech.

I mean, what do you expect people to buy?

AMD?

oh sure sure, well, it's your money! enjoy it. im sure it will go to good use

[C1REX]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Monk:

Why? You know you can get converters and they work just fine, right?

I haven't found a single converter or DP to HDMI cable that fully support 4K144Hz, HDR, 4:4:4, VRR. Many say they do but it's not true. Amazon is full of even regular HDMI 2.1 cables with fake certificates and insufficient bandwidth.
I was looking online for an advice and nobody else could get full HDMI 2.1 support on such cables and converters.
Please let me know if you know one that works 100%. Including VRR/FreeSync/G-Sync and HDR at the same time.

[D. Flame]

Opprinnelig skrevet av C1REX:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Monk:

Why? You know you can get converters and they work just fine, right?

I haven't found a single converter or DP to HDMI cable that fully support 4K144Hz, HDR, 4:4:4, VRR. Many say they do but it's not true. Amazon is full of even regular HDMI 2.1 cables with fake certificates and insufficient bandwidth.
I was looking online for an advice and nobody else could get full HDMI 2.1 support on such cables and converters.
Please let me know if you know one that works 100%. Including VRR/FreeSync/G-Sync and HDR at the same time.

HDMI is a dying format. Upgrade to DP when you can afford it.

[Monk]

Ok I can wee 4k at full signal might be more awkward, but I'd expect active convertor to work, though I'm not sure why you'd need 2 such monitors, 3 I'd understand gir triple monitor surround, but 2 suggests one gir gaming, one just for secondary stuff that doesn't really need the full spec.

I know what you mean about lots of cables not doing what they advertise, I went through a load of them trying to get a 5m one that worked (and didn't degrade after a month or 2) I ended up with 4 ruipro cables 3 certified (much cheaper) and the long one being their fiber optic cable (green cable), so, not really what you need, but may help next time you need a good hdmi 2.1 that actually works!

[C1REX]

Opprinnelig skrevet av D. Flame:

HDMI is a dying format. Upgrade to DP when you can afford it.

There aren't really that many 50+ inch screens with DP ports. There is Samsung Oddysey ARK 55inch with 1DP and 3xHDMI port but it's curved and 2x more expensive than OLED. Not sure if the port is dying when I see it more and more often. Asus premium models have 2xHDMI port.