So RTX 5080 is slower than 4090...

[Vegasskill]

...and about 20% faster in Vulkan, 6% faster in OpenCL, and 9% faster in Blender than RTX 4080.
In my opinion it's effectively the same generation as RTX 40xx, which is why they are leaning so heavily on DLSS 4. Without DLSS 4 RTX 50xx series is nothing.

I can bet that DLSS 4 could work on 40xx series but NVIDIA will block this new multi frame generation option in drivers.

Link: https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-leak-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090


So guys. Those of you who have RTX 4070, 4080 and 4090 cards, will you buy 5080?

[Monk]

Messaggio originale di Vegasskill:

Messaggio originale di Sneakydude555:

The 5090 cant even run Wukong 4k ultra with Full ray tracing, its only 30 percent faster than the 4090......

Really? That's incredible.
So when people say that RTX 50xx series is all about DLSS 4 and multiframe generation they maybe correct.

I mean, nothing can, unless people want gpu's to cost the same as a car, Ai is the future of rendering, or we stop pushing for better abd better looking more immersive games, not to mention how much more power such a gpu would require.

[The Grin]

Messaggio originale di C1REX:

Messaggio originale di Trout:

basically this, although with newer games demanding more and more VRAM, idk how long my 3080 is going to last

Nvidia screwed 3070, 3070Ti and 3080 owners by giving less memory than for 3060 12GB.
I recently played FF16, Jedi Survivor and Monster Hunter Wild beta that used over 12GB at 4K+FSR (upscaled 1440p).
Jedi Survivor at native 4K can use around 20GB and it does look good.

Yes but you speak about a 4K resolution.
Most of the gamers play in HD resolution 1080 or 1440p and 10 GB are still doing the job.
OF course if you want to play on a cinema linen screen you will need the upcoming 12 000 bucks RTX 10 000 series. Buuut this will be in a few years I guess. Technology "evolves" too fast.

Nonetheless, things work "artificially today". GFX card companies show performance benchmarks, at every new card coming out AND.....they say "HEY! you will be having even more performance with the (♥♥♥♥♥♥) AI or FSR or DLSS resolution or whatever new resolution coming out in the next years).


The fact is a few years ago, like 7 - 8 years ago, on top of the horrible natively implemented AAs into some games (blurring out the whole game), no one played with "artificially enhanced resolutions" just to pump out fake FPS on a screen that actually looks worse in detail than without any FSR, DLSS or else option.
Now we got marketing, marketing and marketing...and if sheeps follow, then the marketing will continue.

Speaking about visual quality, Reshade is a great workaround to counter the droping visual quality, with sharpening options etc....whatever you want to use for a minimum fps loss but enhancing the visual quality.

[C1REX]

Messaggio originale di (^3^)/🛹:

Yes but you speak about a 4K resolution.
Most of the gamers play in HD resolution 1080 or 1440p and 10 GB are still doing the job.

Not 4K. There is a growing number of games that want to use more than 8GB at 1440p. They may still work on 8GB but at worse performance, stutters or automatically worse textures. We even have games like Final Fantasy 16 that use over 10GB at 1080p.

[Monk]

By growing number, you really mean 0.00001% of games, or less, so few, you could likely count them on your hands.

Luckily, there are options you could pick that offer more memory...

[C1REX]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

By growing number, you really mean 0.00001% of games, or less, so few, you could likely count them on your hands.

Luckily, there are options you could pick that offer more memory...

I’m talking about new and incoming games - not about gaming history.
Over 8GB at native 1440p is not that rare and will only become less rare in the next 2 - 4 years.

[Monk]

It still is very rare even among newly released 2025 games.

Again, buy a higher end model is always an option over crying about decisions you made.

[C1REX]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

It still is very rare even among newly released 2025 games.

Again, buy a higher end model is always an option over crying about decisions you made.

I’ve got few games im my library that use more than 8GB of VRAM at 1440p.
We may have a different definition of “rare”.

I also don’t complain but simply notice a trend. I’ve got 24GB of VRAM and I wish more games could take advantage of it. As an option and not requirement. Either, for better visuals or to cache more data to eliminate traversal stutters.

[Monk]

Messaggio originale di C1REX:

Messaggio originale di Monk:

It still is very rare even among newly released 2025 games.

Again, buy a higher end model is always an option over crying about decisions you made.

I’ve got few games im my library that use more than 8GB of VRAM at 1440p.
We may have a different definition of “rare”.

I also don’t complain but simply notice a trend. I’ve got 24GB of VRAM and I wish more games could take advantage of it. As an option and not requirement. Either, for better visuals or to cache more data to eliminate traversal stutters.

Then you do not understand the meaning of the word rare, where as I do.

You can likely name or look up the games that NEED more than 8GB in minutes, while it would take days to list all the games that font.

That's a pretty solid indication they are rare.

[C1REX]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

Messaggio originale di C1REX:

I’ve got few games im my library that use more than 8GB of VRAM at 1440p.
We may have a different definition of “rare”.

I also don’t complain but simply notice a trend. I’ve got 24GB of VRAM and I wish more games could take advantage of it. As an option and not requirement. Either, for better visuals or to cache more data to eliminate traversal stutters.

Then you do not understand the meaning of the word rare, where as I do.

You can likely name or look up the games that NEED more than 8GB in minutes, while it would take days to list all the games that font.

That's a pretty solid indication they are rare.

I think we are talking about different things.
I haven’t use the word NEED as implied.
Almost no game requires 8GB even at 1440p as no game forbids you from lowering settings to low or using DLSS performance.

I’m talking about games that use over 8GB at native 1440p with high or max settings.
Games that benefit from more memory and will use it if they have it available for better performance or better visuals.

[Monk]

Which are still pretty rare, as I said.

You suggested they aren't because you have a couple in your library.

Either way, you adjust your settings to match your hardware or you upgrade.

[C1REX]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

Either way, you adjust your settings to match your hardware or you upgrade.

Why are you keep repeating that? Yes, if you want to use over 8GB of VRAM then you might need upgrading.


Games that use more than 8GB at native 1440p max settings:

1.Kerbal Space Program 2
2. Dead Space Remake
3. Dead Island 2
4. Star Wars Jedi Survivor
5. Far Cry 6 (HD textures)
6. Cyberpunk 2077
7. Resident Evil 4
8. Hogwarts Legacy
9. The Last of Us Part 1
10. Forspoken
11. MS Flight Simulator (2020)
12. Resident Evil Village
13. A Plague Tale: Requiem
14. The Callisto Protocol
15. Final Fantasy 16
17. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
18. Avatar
19. Ratched and Clank
20. Space Marine 2 (HD textures)
21. Forza
22. Homeworld 3
23. Horizon Forbidden West
24. Senua's Saga Hellblade 2
25. Ghost of Tsushima with build in FG
26. Alan Wake 2
27. Indiana Jones
28. God of War Ragnarok

+ more I'm not aware of or don't care.

We also have incoming games like

1. Doom: The Dark Ages - Recommended spec: 10GB dedicated VRAM
2. Monster Hunter Wild - over 10GB at 1440p


All this assuming a very clean Windows. Many people can easily have 2GB taken by the system + background apps. Adding frame generation also uses more VRAM.

If this number is noticeable or 0.000001% irrelevant is of course debatable. I personally do notice some of these games and made a conscious decision to get a GPU with enough VRAM to run them comfortably without stutters.

[D. Flame]

"But muh fake frames!"

[MonkehMaster]

no thanks, my asus rog strix 1080 runs just fine for me and it runs 4k just fine in the games i own, i also dont need any of their extra software fluff.

no reason to waste money on something i dont need and if it needs more than 8gb vram, then it should be using unused ram, not complaining about not enough vram.

[Monk]

Messaggio originale di C1REX:

Messaggio originale di Monk:

Either way, you adjust your settings to match your hardware or you upgrade.

Why are you keep repeating that? Yes, if you want to use over 8GB of VRAM then you might need upgrading.


Games that use more than 8GB at native 1440p max settings:

1.Kerbal Space Program 2
2. Dead Space Remake
3. Dead Island 2
4. Star Wars Jedi Survivor
5. Far Cry 6 (HD textures)
6. Cyberpunk 2077
7. Resident Evil 4
8. Hogwarts Legacy
9. The Last of Us Part 1
10. Forspoken
11. MS Flight Simulator (2020)
12. Resident Evil Village
13. A Plague Tale: Requiem
14. The Callisto Protocol
15. Final Fantasy 16
17. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
18. Avatar
19. Ratched and Clank
20. Space Marine 2 (HD textures)
21. Forza
22. Homeworld 3
23. Horizon Forbidden West
24. Senua's Saga Hellblade 2
25. Ghost of Tsushima with build in FG
26. Alan Wake 2
27. Indiana Jones
28. God of War Ragnarok

+ more I'm not aware of or don't care.

We also have incoming games like

1. Doom: The Dark Ages - Recommended spec: 10GB dedicated VRAM
2. Monster Hunter Wild - over 10GB at 1440p


All this assuming a very clean Windows. Many people can easily have 2GB taken by the system + background apps. Adding frame generation also uses more VRAM.

If this number is noticeable or 0.000001% irrelevant is of course debatable. I personally do notice some of these games and made a conscious decision to get a GPU with enough VRAM to run them comfortably without stutters.

So a fairly short list and most can run easily on 8GB if you don't use max settings which includes ridiculously overkill 4k textures for most games.

Still, it's a very small list.

I honestly don't get the complaint, most of those games will also run badly on any 8GB card at max settings, once again, it's about realistic expectations.

Of those you list that I own I can run each of them just fine on an 8GB 3050 with sensible settings let alone on more powerful cards.

[Troll]

Messaggio originale di Vegasskill:

...and about 20% faster in Vulkan, 6% faster in OpenCL, and 9% faster in Blender than RTX 4080.
In my opinion it's effectively the same generation as RTX 40xx, which is why they are leaning so heavily on DLSS 4. Without DLSS 4 RTX 50xx series is nothing.

I can bet that DLSS 4 could work on 40xx series but NVIDIA will block this new multi frame generation option in drivers.

Link: https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-leak-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090


So guys. Those of you who have RTX 4070, 4080 and 4090 cards, will you buy 5080?

I plan too, I've bought a card from every generation before it so why stop now