So RTX 5080 is slower than 4090...

[Vegasskill]

...and about 20% faster in Vulkan, 6% faster in OpenCL, and 9% faster in Blender than RTX 4080.
In my opinion it's effectively the same generation as RTX 40xx, which is why they are leaning so heavily on DLSS 4. Without DLSS 4 RTX 50xx series is nothing.

I can bet that DLSS 4 could work on 40xx series but NVIDIA will block this new multi frame generation option in drivers.

Link: https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-leak-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090


So guys. Those of you who have RTX 4070, 4080 and 4090 cards, will you buy 5080?

[C1REX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

I won't apologise for giving some a wake up call, because honestly, if you cannot afford to save up 500 bucks every 2 to 4 years, you really should be having a long hard look at your life and trying to work on that rather than playing games, just because it's hard to hear, doesn't make it the truth.

I've got 24GB.
But because games are optimised for 12GB on ps5 and 8GB on PC I can rarely benefit from that.
So low VRAM GPUs are a problem not only for people who can't play the newest games due to memory limitation but also for players with stronger systems as very few games are optimised for that. Traversal stutters is a problem for everybody.

[Guydodge]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Guydodge:

i disagree if your a 30 series owner the 50 series would be a huge upgrade and as far
as the 5090 its up to 30% at times in 4k if you own a good 3rd party 4090 the 5090
really is not that much of an upgrade if you dont its a pretty sweet upgrade im waiting
on the 60 series if i didnt own a beast of a 4090 id jump on the 5090.

I don't know, 30-40% is substantial.

Sadly, it looks like I won't be getting one, huge storm stripped where I'm living of both power, Internet and mobile services for atleast the next week, so guess I'm waiting on restock in a month lol.

Also, it's, really freaking cold lol

oops misread thought poster was talking about 5090 i see its the 5080.thats another story
from what ive seen its only about a 15% uplift from the 4080 if true thats not going to be
worth and upgrade from the 4080.from the 3080 definitely worth it as that card was a
complete dud on day 1 with only 10gb vram.and im sure will go down as the dumbest card
from nvidia to date.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

I won't apologise for giving some a wake up call, because honestly, if you cannot afford to save up 500 bucks every 2 to 4 years, you really should be having a long hard look at your life and trying to work on that rather than playing games, just because it's hard to hear, doesn't make it the truth.

Who says they can't afford it? More like not falling for the hype and realizing the money spent on a graphic card that has no value anymore can easily be more meaningfully spent in any other areas of ones life. Either that or save said money for something that's actually worth it.

That's what smart people do. Dumb people buy worthless tech. Dumb people pay real money for fake garbage.

[Monk]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

I won't apologise for giving some a wake up call, because honestly, if you cannot afford to save up 500 bucks every 2 to 4 years, you really should be having a long hard look at your life and trying to work on that rather than playing games, just because it's hard to hear, doesn't make it the truth.

Who says they can't afford it? More like not falling for the hype and realizing the money spent on a graphic card that has no value anymore can easily be more meaningfully spent in any other areas of ones life. Either that or save said money for something that's actually worth it.

That's what smart people do. Dumb people buy worthless tech. Dumb people pay real money for fake garbage.

That is fine, as long as they don't endlessly complain about it.

Also, nothing dumb about spending money you can afford on your hobby.

It's not fake, it is the future and you just come accross as jealous with these rants tbh.

Have a nice day and enjoy your existing card, new stuff out won't change how well it works and remember, they are all luxury goods we don't need.

[Heretic]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

I won't apologise for giving some a wake up call, because honestly, if you cannot afford to save up 500 bucks every 2 to 4 years, you really should be having a long hard look at your life and trying to work on that rather than playing games, just because it's hard to hear, doesn't make it the truth.

Who says they can't afford it? More like not falling for the hype and realizing the money spent on a graphic card that has no value anymore can easily be more meaningfully spent in any other areas of ones life. Either that or save said money for something that's actually worth it.

That's what smart people do. Dumb people buy worthless tech. Dumb people pay real money for fake garbage.

It adds nothing to the discussion, so best ignored.

Anyway, It looks to be a terrible card:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-5080-outperforms-rtx-4080-by-10-percent-in-blender-benchmark-only-8-percent-higher-than-rtx-4080-super

[mtono]

i think it is just a producer style. some changes, new hardware. why should them keep on building hardware from the past? i am always interested in the new stuff(gfx/cpu/ram/and new sockets/all).
isnt it?
thx for reading

[☄️⁧⁧Sneakydude555]

I figured.. they gimped the 50 series cards just for an excuse to use multi frame generation and AI as a primary selling point. The lower tier 50 seires cards are not going to be great cards i suspect...

The 5090 cant even run Wukong 4k ultra with Full ray tracing, its only 30 percent faster than the 4090......

[C1REX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Heretic:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:

Who says they can't afford it? More like not falling for the hype and realizing the money spent on a graphic card that has no value anymore can easily be more meaningfully spent in any other areas of ones life. Either that or save said money for something that's actually worth it.

That's what smart people do. Dumb people buy worthless tech. Dumb people pay real money for fake garbage.

It adds nothing to the discussion, so best ignored.

Anyway, It looks to be a terrible card:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-5080-outperforms-rtx-4080-by-10-percent-in-blender-benchmark-only-8-percent-higher-than-rtx-4080-super

I don’t remember when x80 class card had such a small improvement over previous generation.
It may also age badly if PS6 will launch in 2 years with 32GB of VRAM. PS6 is still within rumours and speculations so who knows. It would be easier for PC gaming if new consoles had 16GB again.

[PopinFRESH]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von C1REX:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Heretic:

It adds nothing to the discussion, so best ignored.

Anyway, It looks to be a terrible card:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-5080-outperforms-rtx-4080-by-10-percent-in-blender-benchmark-only-8-percent-higher-than-rtx-4080-super

I don’t remember when x80 class card to had such a small improvement over previous generation.
It may also age badly if PS6 will launch in 2 years with 32GB of VRAM. PS6 is still within rumours and speculations so who knows. It would be easier for PC gaming if consoles had 16GB again.

What do you mean "had 16GB again"? None of the consoles have had 16GB of "VRAM". Both the Series X and PS5 have 16GB of unified memory with 1GB - 1.5GB reserved for the system and a variable amount for CPU optimized use.

[C1REX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von PopinFRESH:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von C1REX:

I don’t remember when x80 class card to had such a small improvement over previous generation.
It may also age badly if PS6 will launch in 2 years with 32GB of VRAM. PS6 is still within rumours and speculations so who knows. It would be easier for PC gaming if consoles had 16GB again.

What do you mean "had 16GB again"? None of the consoles have had 16GB of "VRAM". Both the Series X and PS5 have 16GB of unified memory with 1GB - 1.5GB reserved for the system and a variable amount for CPU optimized use.

Yes. PS5 has 16GB of unified memory (not the same as shared) with about 12,5GB available for games. Usually rendered at 1080p and upscaled.

[PopinFRESH]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von C1REX:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von PopinFRESH:

What do you mean "had 16GB again"? None of the consoles have had 16GB of "VRAM". Both the Series X and PS5 have 16GB of unified memory with 1GB - 1.5GB reserved for the system and a variable amount for CPU optimized use.

Yes. PS5 has 16GB of unified memory (not the same as shared) with about 12,5GB available for games. Usually rendered at 1080p and upscaled.

So what do you mean by "if consoles had 16GB again." given they've never had that?

[C1REX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von PopinFRESH:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von C1REX:

Yes. PS5 has 16GB of unified memory (not the same as shared) with about 12,5GB available for games. Usually rendered at 1080p and upscaled.

So what do you mean by "if consoles had 16GB again." given they've never had that?

The PS5 has 16GB of GDDR6. While 12.5GB is currently available for games, this is not set in stone and could be expanded via a firmware update. Especially on the PS5 Pro, which has an additional 2GB of DDR4 ( base PS5 has 0.5GB).

Saying that the PS5 has 16GB is the correct way to specify the specs, just like we don't say that 8GB GPUs have less available for games because Windows uses some.

[Vegasskill]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

I won't apologise for giving some a wake up call, because honestly, if you cannot afford to save up 500 bucks every 2 to 4 years, you really should be having a long hard look at your life and trying to work on that rather than playing games, just because it's hard to hear, doesn't make it the truth.

I am sure that many people can save that amount of money, but you know...they have more pressing issues.
For example: woman, child, house, car, vacations, etc.
Besides the price of RTX 5080 is 1000 bucks and 5090 2000 bucks.

[Vegasskill]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sneakydude555:

The 5090 cant even run Wukong 4k ultra with Full ray tracing, its only 30 percent faster than the 4090......

Really? That's incredible.
So when people say that RTX 50xx series is all about DLSS 4 and multiframe generation they maybe correct.

[Monk]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vegasskill:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Monk:

I won't apologise for giving some a wake up call, because honestly, if you cannot afford to save up 500 bucks every 2 to 4 years, you really should be having a long hard look at your life and trying to work on that rather than playing games, just because it's hard to hear, doesn't make it the truth.

I am sure that many people can save that amount of money, but you know...they have more pressing issues.
For example: woman, child, house, car, vacations, etc.
Besides the price of RTX 5080 is 1000 bucks and 5090 2000 bucks.

Then they cannot afford to save it as I said and have other issues to deal with before they should care about playing games?...

So, you agree with me.

Even at 2k, upgrading every 2 generations, it's only 10 bucks a week that needs to be saved for a 5090, 5 bucks for a 5080 and 2.50 for a 5070, if someone cannot set that aside, as I have said, they have other issues to sort before they complain about the cost of gpu's.