which is better?

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/688263/powerspec-g721-gaming-pc

https://www.microcenter.com/product/669855/powerspec-g717-gaming-pc-platinum-collection

need a new gaming pc that is somewhat future proof up to at least 5 years. which of these are better?
or do you guys know of a better deal out there. please dont say build your own. i dont want to.

[andreasaspenberg575]

the PowerSpec G721 Gaming PC is the best. while they have the same ram capacity, the PowerSpec G721 Gaming PC have a stronger cpu and a stronger gpu.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af andreasaspenberg575:

the PowerSpec G721 Gaming PC is the best. while they have the same ram capacity, the PowerSpec G721 Gaming PC have a stronger cpu and a stronger gpu.

is the mobo a decent or good one?

[Illusion of Progress]

Future proofing doesn't exist, but the closest you can get to it at any given time is by buying the best stuff available.

Both have fast CPUs, but the first one has a faster one (and the fastest for gaming that exists right now).

Likewise, the first one has a faster graphics card (albeit by only 10% to 15% on average), but if you're actually after a "I don't want any upgrades before five years, period" then the more important part than the first graphics card being a bit faster might be its bumped VRAM capacity. We're definitely in spot (and have been for years) where 8 GB graphics cards can hold you back. 12 GB isn't a concern... right now. Three to five years though? Best case scenario is its fine, but if not then the 25% extra VRAM works towards your ideal.

In reality, neither graphics card is anywhere near the fastest, but if you have to upgrade anything, the graphics card is usually one of the easiest to do (though airflow and PSU limitations might come into play).

The first has 850W and the second has 750W. On that alone, the first seems more able to take better upgrades, but I don't see further information on what PSUs they are. They just list wattage (but the first goes half a step further and claims all that power is available on the 12V rail, which is a good sign).

The first is definitely better on hardware alone, but I'm honestly sure if it's $700 better.

[_I_]

differences are the 4070 super vs 4070 super ti
much larger clc
750w vs 850w psu

and
MSI Pro X870-P WiFi
is a much better board than the
MSI Pro B650-P WIFI

those would make for the price difference

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Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:

differences are the 4070 super vs 4070 super ti
much larger clc
750w vs 850w psu

and
MSI Pro X870-P WiFi
is a much better board than the
MSI Pro B650-P WIFI

those would make for the price difference

would you recommend this computer with this graphics card? its all my local MC has and they dont know when others will be in with the new ones coming out. or would it be wise to wait for the new cards?

[PopinFRESH]

Or.... wait another few weeks until they have that same system available with an RTX 5070 Ti or RTX 5080.

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*if they have any of the gpus in stock to put in their house builds
will be unlikely for a while, they normally do components that dont sell that great in them

[C1REX]

Oprindeligt skrevet af REAPER:

would you recommend this computer with this graphics card? its all my local MC has and they dont know when others will be in with the new ones coming out. or would it be wise to wait for the new cards?

I don't think it's worth waiting but it's worth to check if you can pick and choose your parts and ask microcenter if they can assemble it for you. It might come cheaper and better balanced. You can buy Windows key online for less than $10.
But 9800x3D + 4070Ti Super 16GB is a very nice setup that should last you a good time.

[_I_]

do that here
https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx

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Oprindeligt skrevet af REAPER:

would you recommend this computer with this graphics card? its all my local MC has and they dont know when others will be in with the new ones coming out. or would it be wise to wait for the new cards?

I don't think it's worth waiting but it's worth to check if you can pick and choose your parts and ask microcenter if they can assemble it for you. It might come cheaper and better balanced. You can buy Windows key online for less than $10.
But 9800x3D + 4070Ti Super 16GB is a very nice setup that should last you a good time.

I did this and they will. But they are all out of 4070 cards and don't know if they are getting more in from what I was yold.

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I was there yesterday and they had 9 of them in stock. Now they are all sold out today. So it seems like people are buying them up for some reason.