Is it worth it switching to NVIDIA?

[Waryth]

Why I use AMD

I've been a die hard AMD user since my first ever PC. I've been able to use an NVIDIA GPU which is GTX 1050 and GTX 1080Ti from Internet Cafe. The GTX 1080Ti gave a long lasting impression and its design to me and many but I could just buy an AMD equivalent of that graphics card.

Reason why I'm switching

AMD Graphics Card are kinda rare to find in my area. I've ended up going full AMD with FreeSync Monitor, Ryzen with my AMD GPU so switching to one is kinda hard and ain't easy.

I know NVIDIA's GPU works with FreeSync monitors but the issue I have is that what happens if my frames exceed my monitor? I go FreeSync + Enhanced Sync to have no tearing at all and it works flawlessly. Enhanced Sync equivalent for NVIDIA is Fast Sync but I couldn't find any documentation of FreeSync + Fast Sync working together (where it will disable FreeSync or Fast Sync depending on the frames) just like FreeSync + Enhanced Sync.
(I did google search but can't find a decent answer from people who knows how to use it.)

Most games literally sponsor NVIDIA during their startup while AMD being the underdog. All the latest advanced features are from NVIDIA while AMD is catching up while making worth the value of a graphics card.

If someone could give me an insight regarding about their transfer with AMD to NVIDIA especially with a FreeSync Monitor or has answers to it, I'll appreciate it much.

NVIDIA imitiating AMD's affordable GPU approach

I've heard stories about GeForce RTX 5090 which is twice the power of GeForce RTX 4090 for a less price. People are mad how 5090 isn't really much of an upgrade with AI boosted frames, it's not perfect but it's really affordable and they're doing the same approach as AMD which is why I'm considering switching. It's obvious making a new model/product doesn't mean it's a better one to the old but usually just a minor difference/upgrades.

If you switch from GTX 1080Ti to RTX 5090 it's still an upgrade. If you switch to an RTX 4090 to 5090 it isn't an upgrade, it's just consumer buying issue without doing research.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You would enable GSync, set Vertical Sync to Fast and set Low Latency to Ultra. That's a proper way to have smoothness with your fps being stable on a screen tbat supports either GSync or FreeSync Premium or Premium Pro while on an NVIDIA GPU.

1080 Ti is now way too low end. Unless maybe for 1080p it's fine.

The minimum today or more like 3070 / 3080 and yes it's is actually needed.

Something like Ryzen 5600X + RTX 3070 or better cpu/gpu can do very well.

Very happy with my 4790K and 7800X3D PCs

NVIDIA for GPU? Well of course

[Waryth]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

You would enable GSync, set Vertical Sync to Fast and set Low Latency to Ultra.

Yes, that's the ideal setup for an NVIDIA gamer but I don't have a G-Sync monitor nor do I plan to use one. They're literally the same as FreeSync except the other one is hardware at double the price.

So does FreeSync + Fast Sync work? Have you tried it at all? NVIDIA nor AMD wouldn't give documentations or answers to this nor the internet.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Again, you enable GSync on the NVIDIA GPU when you have a TV or Monitor that has FreeSync

[AmaiAmai]

Buy what works for you. At the end of the day, it's just a GPU and it's use will be determined by you. If you feel satisfied with the product or what it promises to offer, then enjoy it.

Of course, there are times when it doesn't make sense. And if I were you, I would read the third party reviews of the 5090 before making a decision esp. if power consumption is a concern.

There's a negative about every product, and if a review only has positives, then you need to see more reviews until you get to the negatives.

I typically only look at negative reviews when purchasing products because anyone can fluff a product up -- and you already know the positives before you buy something or you wouldn't be considering buying it. You need to consider what you haven't heard when purchasing products and that is usually the negatives.

Also

Originally posted by Waryth:

NVIDIA imitiating AMD's affordable GPU approach

I've heard stories about GeForce RTX 5090 which is twice the power of GeForce RTX 4090 for a less price. People are mad how 5090 isn't really much of an upgrade with AI boosted frames, it's not perfect but it's really affordable and they're doing the same approach as AMD which is why I'm considering switching. It's obvious making a new model/product doesn't mean it's a better one to the old but usually just a minor difference/upgrades.

If you switch from GTX 1080Ti to RTX 5090 it's still an upgrade. If you switch to an RTX 4090 to 5090 it isn't an upgrade, it's just consumer buying issue without doing research.

No, people are mad because it isn't actually twice the power of a 4090 in any real scenario. There does not seem to be any real improvement over the generation once you look at power consumption and core count -- that means nothing really changed besides software.

The criticism is that Nvidia misled with their marketing and had some "techtubers" also tow the line for them, but reality proved to be far different and more disappointing.

More performance on a linear 1:1 scale is not an improvement or generation change -- it's just the same product with more cores, better RAM, binning, and a clock speed boost.

If that's the result of the halo product, people believe the products down the stack will behave the same way and, in a similar fashion, won't be a real generation upgrade.

See the thing is, people are not entirely stupid. Nvidia created the problem with software (raytracing / pathtracing) and told you you HAVE to have it. But to have it you need to buy their product.

Now, when they release a product and it only has software improvements, then what does it mean? It means they could have always offered said improvements and chose not to.

It doesn't help that no one can improve Nvidia's code or methods without their permission, and even viewing it makes you accept an NDA and noncompete agreement

That's why people find it a disappointment and are criticising RTX 5000

[Guydodge]

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

Buy what works for you. At the end of the day, it's just a GPU and it's use will be determined by you. If you feel satisfied with the product or what it promises to offer, then enjoy it.

Of course, there are times when it doesn't make sense. And if I were you, I would read the third party reviews of the 5090 before making a decision esp. if power consumption is a concern.

There's a negative about every product, and if a review only has positives, then you need to see more reviews until you get to the negatives.

I typically only look at negative reviews when purchasing products because anyone can fluff a product up -- and you already know the positives before you buy something or you wouldn't be considering buying it. You need to consider what you haven't heard when purchasing products and that is usually the negatives.

Also

Originally posted by Waryth:

NVIDIA imitiating AMD's affordable GPU approach

I've heard stories about GeForce RTX 5090 which is twice the power of GeForce RTX 4090 for a less price. People are mad how 5090 isn't really much of an upgrade with AI boosted frames, it's not perfect but it's really affordable and they're doing the same approach as AMD which is why I'm considering switching. It's obvious making a new model/product doesn't mean it's a better one to the old but usually just a minor difference/upgrades.

If you switch from GTX 1080Ti to RTX 5090 it's still an upgrade. If you switch to an RTX 4090 to 5090 it isn't an upgrade, it's just consumer buying issue without doing research.

No, people are mad because it isn't actually twice the power of a 4090 in any real scenario. There does not seem to be any real improvement over the generation once you look at power consumption and core count -- that means nothing really changed besides software.

The criticism is that Nvidia misled with their marketing and had some "techtubers" also tow the line for them, but reality proved to be far different and more disappointing.

More performance on a linear 1:1 scale is not an improvement or generation change -- it's just the same product with more cores, better RAM, binning, and a clock speed boost.

If that's the result of the halo product, people believe the products down the stack will behave the same way and, in a similar fashion, won't be a real generation upgrade.

See the thing is, people are not entirely stupid. Nvidia created the problem with software (raytracing / pathtracing) and told you you HAVE to have it. But to have it you need to buy their product.

Now, when they release a product and it only has software improvements, then what does it mean? It means they could have always offered said improvements and chose not to.

It doesn't help that no one can improve Nvidia's code or methods without their permission, and even viewing it makes you accept an NDA and noncompete agreement

That's why people find it a disappointment and are criticising RTX 5000

people who pay attention are not mad unless your new to the pc hardware game.they
have always did what they have done once again.most who actually have payed attention
over the years expected the 30% or so uplift from the 5090 now if we are talking the 5080
or the 5070 with the possible only15% over the 4080 and the fact the 5070 is only 12gb
yeah its something to be upset about but youve been warned so thats on you to expect more.they all use the same sales tactics.so people need to only look to the past to know
whats to come.and to be honest if i didnt have a powerful 4090 oc edition id jump
on the 5090.

"and that 30% is without the AI crap"so that would be hardware not software

[Midnight Aurais]

i plop a nvidia card in games done plop a amd card in games done

even in the amount of bugs they often are equal just that they do not have the same bugs as eachother

i switch amd>nvidia>amd>nvidia>amd so i aint a fanboy at all i do not give a rats ass what others think if that amd card performs better then that nvidia card at near identical pricing then i pick the amd card and vise versa

i still cannot base my purchases on features alone the major ones raytracing and dlss they still aren't in every game even titles released today lack it so that means a no the rasterized performance is still what mathers to me end of the day if amd does the job better at the price im willing to pay for it then amd it is if its nvidia then its nvidia

you are afraid of freesync not working correctly but freesync works just fine under nvidia just likely have to enable gsync as a unsupported device who cares it works without issues

basically someone figured a way out to get gsync to accept freesync signal so they could use their panel without paying for a gsync monitor this eventually went a bit viral and forced nvidia's hand to lift the exclusiveness of gsync to only work with their verified hardware hench why its no longer a issue

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Midnight Aurais:

i plop a nvidia card in games done plop a amd card in games done

even in the amount of bugs they often are equal just that they do not have the same bugs as eachother

i switch amd>nvidia>amd>nvidia>amd so i aint a fanboy at all i do not give a rats ass what others think if that amd card performs better then that nvidia card at near identical pricing then i pick the amd card and vise versa

i still cannot base my purchases on features alone the major ones raytracing and dlss they still aren't in every game even titles released today lack it so that means a no the rasterized performance is still what mathers to me end of the day if amd does the job better at the price im willing to pay for it then amd it is if its nvidia then its nvidia

you are afraid of freesync not working correctly but freesync works just fine under nvidia just likely have to enable gsync as a unsupported device who cares it works without issues

basically someone figured a way out to get gsync to accept freesync signal so they could use their panel without paying for a gsync monitor this eventually went a bit viral and forced nvidia's hand to lift the exclusiveness of gsync to only work with their verified hardware hench why its no longer a issue

Figured what out? NVIDIA officially updated Drivers well over 2 years ago and from then onward, pretty much any FreeSync Premium and Premium Pro TV or Monitor can work as GSync Compatble on NVIDIA GPUs. The same goes for GSync on AMD should you already own a GSync Monitor and happen to change over to a modern AMD GPU.

This all works at the Driver level.

[mtono]

i am an AMD fanboy, but this 5090 weapon is ubercool. have a look at your preferences and buy any vendor you want and in case you want the fastest ever from today, buy 5090. DLSS and FSR are not the biggest deals. raytracing is coming in some time to AAA titles and this would be the time everyone needs a major hardware update. raytracing is impressive and i am waiting for it. so why switch to nvidia: if you want the fastest, go for it with rtx 5090 nvidia/ USA. i am a FHD 1080p user and my rx 6600 needs 100 watts only maximum load. i like little power loss through my pc. what would i buy today? AMD. the same as it ever was. i have a good friend who is used to nvidia and intel cpu. i dont see a problem, his name is gido.

gg
hf
;-D

[Waryth]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

You would enable GSync, set Vertical Sync to Fast and set Low Latency to Ultra. That's a proper way to have smoothness with your fps being stable on a screen tbat supports either GSync or FreeSync Premium or Premium Pro while on an NVIDIA GPU.

Again, you enable GSync on the NVIDIA GPU when you have a TV or Monitor that has FreeSync

NVIDIA officially updated Drivers well over 2 years ago and from then onward, pretty much any FreeSync Premium and Premium Pro TV or Monitor can work as GSync Compatble on NVIDIA GPUs. The same goes for GSync on AMD should you already own a GSync Monitor and happen to change over to a modern AMD GPU.

This all works at the Driver level.

Originally posted by Midnight Aurais:

you are afraid of freesync not working correctly but freesync works just fine under nvidia just likely have to enable gsync as a unsupported device who cares it works without issues

basically someone figured a way out to get gsync to accept freesync signal so they could use their panel without paying for a gsync monitor this eventually went a bit viral and forced nvidia's hand to lift the exclusiveness of gsync to only work with their verified hardware hench why its no longer a issue

Well I appreciate addressing my main issue here regarding my FreeSync monitor so it shouldn't be an issue going for NVIDIA by now. The additional trivia was also interesting.

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

Buy what works for you. At the end of the day, it's just a GPU and it's use will be determined by you. If you feel satisfied with the product or what it promises to offer, then enjoy it.

Originally posted by Midnight Aurais:

i plop a nvidia card in games done plop a amd card in games done

i switch amd>nvidia>amd>nvidia>amd so i aint a fanboy at all i do not give a rats ass what others think if that amd card performs better then that nvidia card at near identical pricing then i pick the amd card and vise versa

Well this is true but doesn't change the fact that NVIDIA has the latest innovative products including the AI RTX Voice, NVIDIA ANSEL, built-in TXAA + NVIDIA's Sharpening Filter.

(To you TXAA haters out there, you're supposed to pair it with sharpening filters to nullify its drawbacks/bluriness putting it at its fullest potential)

These kinds of stuff are something AMD doesn't have at all.

Originally posted by Midnight Aurais:

even in the amount of bugs they often are equal just that they do not have the same bugs as eachother

Yeah literally every latest products are riddled with bugs rushing out things out of the deadline but I won't be buying the latest but some 2nd class high tier at most that's mostly patched of bugs or I'll just stick with the renowned GTX 1080Ti. (Yes I'm sticking with a 1080p res still.)

Originally posted by Midnight Aurais:

i still cannot base my purchases on features alone the major ones raytracing and dlss they still aren't in every game even titles released today lack it so that means a no the rasterized performance is still what mathers to me end of the day if amd does the job better at the price im willing to pay for it then amd it is if its nvidia then its nvidia

Originally posted by datafans:

i am a FHD 1080p user and my rx 6600 needs 100 watts only maximum load. i like little power loss through my pc. what would i buy today? AMD.

Same, the thing is that I also think of going for the RX series but its almost out of stock here from where I am but NVIDIA are abundant. So yeah looks like I'm going for NVIDIA at this point.

[Painkilleruk]

simple answer- yes. Especially as ray tracing is being forced into system req's these days and will continue to.