5 year old pc upgrade?

[REAPER]

Would it be worth it to upgrade parts or just get a whole new computer? It's around 5 years old.

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Illusion of Progress eredeti hozzászólása:

You can see how your current 3700X compares to the 5700X3D.

So if you're happy with the 3700X, it's still fine. If not, you have a lot of improvement you can make for less cost than completely starting over.

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

be sure to select store location that you will pick it up from

if that is available to you, the 8700x3d and 4070s is a good combo

That would require completely replacing the 32GB or DDR4 memory and AM4 motherboard.

Afaik 5000 series processors are the latest you can get for DDR4 / AM4.

It'd be nice if AMD in the near future put out an 8c Zen4 model and snuck it into the Ryzen 5000 line, but this is probably just fantasy and will never happen. It would be possible though one would think, if they could mate a Zen4 CCD to an older DDR4 based memory hub IO-die.

[r.linder]

Get a 5700X3D and get the best GPU you can afford

RX 9070 series and RTX 50 series will be interesting assuming they'll even remain in stock and be priced around MSRP, their performance gains over current gen would be great

If leaks are to be believed then the 9070-XT's performance could come close to the 7900-XTX but with much less power, with much improved RT performance to boot, and support for FSR4

Meanwhile the 5070 is probably only going to be around a 4070 Ti without DLSS4 but multi-frame generation will somewhat bridge any gaps at the very least, DLSS4 is also supposed to improve VRAM usage a bit more

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

You can swap to 5700X3D with your current socket if you update the BIOS and then get the best new GPU you can comfortably afford.

[Lord Flashheart]

REAPER eredeti hozzászólása:

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

specs?

if it does everything fine, keep it as is

or if better gpu would help do that and maybe psu

or if it needs a better cpu, then go for new cpu/mobo/ram kit

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
32768MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
750w psu

It depends what games you play.
You need to determine wht the 'bottleneck'' is

For a cpu upgrade, the 5700X3D is an economical choice. You may need a suitable CPU cooler also. It would mean a BIOS update to the motherboard.

As for the GPU, it is still a decent card. The possible issue is the 8GB VRAM. Issues with it will depend on the games and setting you use. Also there is an update to DLSS shortly, which should benefit your GPU - according to nvidia.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

REAPER eredeti hozzászólása:

Beardface31 eredeti hozzászólása:

That is still a pretty good PC IMO. Is it not performing up to your expectations?

i would like to upgrade to the new 50 series but not sure if its worth the investment or would it be better to just get a new pc.

Whether it's worth the investment or not is really up to you. If you ask on here you'll get different opinions. For example, my opinion is none of these GPUs are worth the price that nvidia asks.

Nvidia still needs to realign their product stack. We got 40 series that are still gimped with pathetic servings of vram. One example, a 4060 sharing many design choices as the 3050, yet somehow it got raised one tier? Like wtf is this nonsense, nvidia? That thing is a 4050 in every way. But nvidia seems to be so greedy that they lie about what tier it actually is, hoping you won't notice and just buy that trash.

Previous generations weren't stacked like that. For example, a gtx 1650 has a full x16 bus connection. The 4060 only has x8 connection. Even a gtx 1050 runs x16. The only explanation is pure greed. How many chips can we hoard and sell for profit, all while screwing gamers and pretending they're stupid?

I can't believe people are actually going to buy these. At least I'm not wasting my money on this garbage

[r.linder]

AMD does the same things but they're the hero while NVIDIA is the villain...
6400 and 6500-XT are x4, entire 6600 lineup is x8, entire 7600 lineup is x8, and if the 4060 is supposedly a x50 tier card by specs, that's amazing considering its performance is well over 33% in a single generation compared to the 3050.

AMD was also the first one to start limiting lanes on their lower end GPUs in their main product stack for consumers, AMD's first one I believe was the 6600-XT in mid 2021 while NVIDIA did it with the 3050 at the start of 2022. So blame AMD for making it an industry standard.

[SHREDDER]

The best solution is to change graphics card first when the rtx 5000 and rx 9000 release and get a RX 9070XT or RTX 5070 after you see the reviews and compare their prices and which one of the two will be the best. Borth will run all games maxed 1440p 60 fps without the need of FSR or DLLS which makes them very good choice. And later change cpu ram and motherboard.

[ΜΣ†ΛĿ]

Microcenter just got new deals, you can get a 9800x3d, motherboard, and 32 gigs of ddr5 6000 for $700.

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

REAPER eredeti hozzászólása:

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

specs?

if it does everything fine, keep it as is

or if better gpu would help do that and maybe psu

or if it needs a better cpu, then go for new cpu/mobo/ram kit

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
32768MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
750w psu

these specs can last you another 5 years

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ eredeti hozzászólása:

REAPER eredeti hozzászólása:

i would like to upgrade to the new 50 series but not sure if its worth the investment or would it be better to just get a new pc.

Whether it's worth the investment or not is really up to you. If you ask on here you'll get different opinions. For example, my opinion is none of these GPUs are worth the price that nvidia asks.

Nvidia still needs to realign their product stack. We got 40 series that are still gimped with pathetic servings of vram. One example, a 4060 sharing many design choices as the 3050, yet somehow it got raised one tier? Like wtf is this nonsense, nvidia? That thing is a 4050 in every way. But nvidia seems to be so greedy that they lie about what tier it actually is, hoping you won't notice and just buy that trash.

Previous generations weren't stacked like that. For example, a gtx 1650 has a full x16 bus connection. The 4060 only has x8 connection. Even a gtx 1050 runs x16. The only explanation is pure greed. How many chips can we hoard and sell for profit, all while screwing gamers and pretending they're stupid?

I can't believe people are actually going to buy these. At least I'm not wasting my money on this garbage

of course not, and nvidia knows this

vote with your wallet!

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

r.linder eredeti hozzászólása:

AMD does the same things but they're the hero while NVIDIA is the villain...
6400 and 6500-XT are x4, entire 6600 lineup is x8, entire 7600 lineup is x8, and if the 4060 is supposedly a x50 tier card by specs, that's amazing considering its performance is well over 33% in a single generation compared to the 3050.

AMD was also the first one to start limiting lanes on their lower end GPUs in their main product stack for consumers, AMD's first one I believe was the 6600-XT in mid 2021 while NVIDIA did it with the 3050 at the start of 2022. So blame AMD for making it an industry standard.

AMDs prices and value are better. They fsr, which works in Nvidia and they support gamers more instead of ripping them off.

Secret simps with a fascination for trash and have an unhealthy hardware fetish give out jesters once again.

[r.linder]

GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ eredeti hozzászólása:

r.linder eredeti hozzászólása:

AMD does the same things but they're the hero while NVIDIA is the villain...
6400 and 6500-XT are x4, entire 6600 lineup is x8, entire 7600 lineup is x8, and if the 4060 is supposedly a x50 tier card by specs, that's amazing considering its performance is well over 33% in a single generation compared to the 3050.

AMD was also the first one to start limiting lanes on their lower end GPUs in their main product stack for consumers, AMD's first one I believe was the 6600-XT in mid 2021 while NVIDIA did it with the 3050 at the start of 2022. So blame AMD for making it an industry standard.

AMDs prices and value are better. They fsr, which works in Nvidia and they support gamers more instead of ripping them off.

Secret simps with a fascination for trash and have an unhealthy hardware fetish give out jesters once again.

You're wrong about AMD, they take that approach not because they care, but because it's the only approach they can take that keeps people coming back. If they didn't try to kiss up to people and keep their prices low, they wouldn't be able to keep making GPUs. It's the only logical choice they can make when their market share for GPUs is less than 15% while NVIDIA's market share is well over 80%.

If AMD was in better standing with better market share than NVIDIA, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. They're a corporation, they'll do whatever it takes to make money and the only way they can compete with a massively successful competitor is to win hearts.

[DragonPlus7]

REAPER eredeti hozzászólása:

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

specs?

if it does everything fine, keep it as is

or if better gpu would help do that and maybe psu

or if it needs a better cpu, then go for new cpu/mobo/ram kit

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
32768MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
750w psu

You need to upgrade CPU to atleast a 5800x so that it is not bottlenecking the GPU. Ryzen 3000 is too weak for that GPU. when i swapped my ryzen 3600 for 5800x cpu i was gettings 100+ frames on a 1600x900 240hz display.

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DragonPlus7 eredeti hozzászólása:

REAPER eredeti hozzászólása:

You need to upgrade CPU to atleast a 5800x so that it is not bottlenecking the GPU. Ryzen 3000 is too weak for that GPU. when i swapped my ryzen 3600 for 5800x cpu i was gettings 100+ frames on a 1600x900 240hz display.

That's not really a fair comparison, you went from 12 threads to 16 and upgraded from zen2 to zen3 which is another 10 to 15 percent uplift per thread.

The threads and improved core to core communications (lower latency) were an improvement during that generation jump. I'd still think 16 threads of zen2 would be plenty for that GPU.

I suppose if you're a very picky gamer type a 5700X3D could be worth it. I wouldn't bother unless the performance was really bothering me.

[Mabi]

The right PC, the one that consumes little, doesn't burn and does what it's supposed to do excellently.

Taking into account temperature, consumption, durability safety, components and adaptive capacity and better made all-rounder.

The various Bios, also for am4 still in beta today, among the various machines that I have been able to observe.

We are happy with an am4 configuration.

The motherboards remain Asrock (personal affection), like the Asrock models of AMD video cards in the 6xxx series, with the subsequent ones AMD increases temperatures in an absurd manner rather than performance. Today a 6700XT for messing around with Linux distros is excellent.

Processor remains Ryzen 7, the 5800X3D not always easy to recover or the less hot 5700X3D.

Why not look for more or more updated?
Because in reality it is better to wait for am6 mobo with ddr6, with the arrival of ddr5, which have struggled to arrive, even now not entirely ok, the PC market has gone to ruin, Intel has accumulated problem after problem, amd has churned out electric heaters before from the 9xxx series.

What we are really waiting for is not the rush to accumulate rubbish, like the micro PC with processors inside is not able to breathe, but the quiet creation of components as God commands.