Сhange the 1660 super to 4060? CS 2

[Писяй]

I have a 12100f CPU, 3200 16 GB RAM. CS 2
The settings are 1280*960, anti-aliasing is 4x, the rest of the settings are low.
Should I change the GPU 1660 super to 4060 or 3060? Will there be an increase in FPS or not?
And does it make sense to change 12100f to 12400f?

[De Hollandse Ezel]

in 1080p you are pretty much bottlenecked at that 1660s

in 1440p your cpu can support a 3060 without bottleneck which should perform a solid 50-60% better. (a 1660 can't do 1440p (I not call 30-40fps playable)
3060 can.. but to get 60 fps you might have to turn a few settings from max to slighlky lower

but the 3060 in turn is pretty much the limit of what your cpu can handle.. so going 3060 to 4060 without upgrading that cpu too won't gain you much.

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if you plan to stick to that 1280x960 you thus likely won't gain much by getting 3060 or 4060 without a cpu

[Писяй]

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in 1080p you are pretty much bottlenecked at that 1660s

in 1440p your cpu can support a 3060 without bottleneck which should perform a solid 50-60% better. (a 1660 can't do 1440p (I not call 30-40fps playable)
3060 can.. but to get 60 fps you might have to turn a few settings from max to slighlky lower

but the 3060 in turn is pretty much the limit of what your cpu can handle.. so going 3060 to 4060 without upgrading that cpu too won't gain you much.

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if you plan to stick to that 1280x960 you thus likely won't gain much by getting 3060 or 4060 without a cpu

so it makes NO sense for fullhd to switch from 1660 super to 4060? I thought so too. thanks

[De Hollandse Ezel]

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in 1080p you are pretty much bottlenecked at that 1660s

in 1440p your cpu can support a 3060 without bottleneck which should perform a solid 50-60% better. (a 1660 can't do 1440p (I not call 30-40fps playable)
3060 can.. but to get 60 fps you might have to turn a few settings from max to slighlky lower

but the 3060 in turn is pretty much the limit of what your cpu can handle.. so going 3060 to 4060 without upgrading that cpu too won't gain you much.

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if you plan to stick to that 1280x960 you thus likely won't gain much by getting 3060 or 4060 without a cpu

so it makes NO sense for fullhd to switch from 1660 super to 4060? I thought so too. thanks

it can make sence the 1660 is old.
but so is the 12100f
so if you want more frames you need to swap that 12100f for something better too.

[76561199793899658]

with the 4060ti at your resolution you can expect a solid x2.2 of fps vs that crummy old 1660

but you would need a 14700kf or 14700k to not bottleneck it.

with a 4060 thats a 1.9
a 12900kf or 13700kf can also do for just a 4060

[Bing Chilling]

for cs2 and most other esports titles no, not really

but any AAA title you'd see a pretty sizeable difference as most far more GPU bound and the 4060 is basically double the performance.

[_I_]

if you are running the low res for higher fps, then yes the 4060 would be better

but it would also need a faster cpu, amd 5700x3d would be an improvement there

but look at gpu usage, if its not near 100% then a faster gpu will not help

[Monk]

Your cpu will be the limit, tbh, it depends what your target resoloution and fps is.

The 'bedt' budget upgrade woukd be to a second hand 12600k / 12700k and a secind hand 3060 if you only care about sports, tag in some faster memory, 2 sticks if 3600 at a low CL should be possible to find cheap or second hand for a further boost without needing a new motherboard.

[76561199793899658]

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Your cpu will be the limit, tbh, it depends what your target resoloution and fps is.

The 'bedt' budget upgrade woukd be to a second hand 12600k / 12700k and a secind hand 3060 if you only care about sports, tag in some faster memory, 2 sticks if 3600 at a low CL should be possible to find cheap or second hand for a further boost without needing a new motherboard.

his target resolution is his current 1280*960.
that low rez means?hes quite cpu bottlenecked hence why he'd need a?14700k or kf just for a 4060ti.. and a?12900kf or 13700kf for a 4060..
12700k amd 3060 mightt work

[_I_]

cs only needs core performance
newer cpus have way more cores than the game needs

12600k/f would be the most effective, cheapest jump to help with cs

[Monk]

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Your cpu will be the limit, tbh, it depends what your target resoloution and fps is.

The 'bedt' budget upgrade woukd be to a second hand 12600k / 12700k and a secind hand 3060 if you only care about sports, tag in some faster memory, 2 sticks if 3600 at a low CL should be possible to find cheap or second hand for a further boost without needing a new motherboard.

his target resolution is his current 1280*960.
that low rez means?hes quite cpu bottlenecked hence why he'd need a?14700k or kf just for a 4060ti.. and a?12900kf or 13700kf for a 4060..
12700k amd 3060 mightt work

He doesn't need anything that expensive, I also thought they might be wanting to upgrade the monitor. He will get into the hundreds of fps on the far cheaper 12600k or 12700k, I'm guessing he is on a B series board, so no point going too new / expensive for very minor gains especially without a new mobo (z690/790).

The 12400 he is looking at us actually a great little chip, just the 600 or 700 isn't much more and is a decent step up in performance (looking second hand) and doesn't carry the potential risks a second hand 13th gen does if it wasn't set up correctly and has any degregation.

[_I_]

or god forbid he is on a hx10 board, which may already be choking the i3 in it

[Corona Scurrae]

Upgrade to an inexpensive 12600kf and wait until NVIDIA refreshes the upcoming 5060 next year. With 12gb gddr7 and that CPU you are set for the upcoming games. Perhaps add 32gb of 3200 cl14 ram on top of it?

[Monk]

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or god forbid he is on a hx10 board, which may already be choking the i3 in it

I didn't even think of that, if he does, a 12400 is about as far as I'd run on it as their power and cooling likely wouldn't take anything more.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

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or god forbid he is on a hx10 board, which may already be choking the i3 in it

I didn't even think of that, if he does, a 12400 is about as far as I'd run on it as their power and cooling likely wouldn't take anything more.

did not consider it either.
I checked and found the lowest chipset the 12100F he has runs on is a 600 model.. which is still capable to run a 14700k

but yeah your right in THEORY the lowest chipset he could have is a 610.
which also in THEORY should still support 14xxx cpu's including that 14700k
-howver it depends on the specific board model how much actual watt it can deliver to the 1700 socket... if it can handle cpu's like that (and how potent a cpu cooler he currently is using)

and you know that on those extreme budget boards thats.. scetchy..
but he might have a 630 or 650??

OP.. whats your motherboard (brand, chipset, model?)

[De Hollandse Ezel]

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his target resolution is his current 1280*960.
that low rez means?hes quite cpu bottlenecked hence why he'd need a?14700k or kf just for a 4060ti.. and a?12900kf or 13700kf for a 4060..
12700k amd 3060 mightt work

He doesn't need anything that expensive, I also thought they might be wanting to upgrade the monitor. He will get into the hundreds of fps on the far cheaper 12600k or 12700k, I'm guessing he is on a B series board, so no point going too new / expensive for very minor gains especially without a new mobo (z690/790).

The 12400 he is looking at us actually a great little chip, just the 600 or 700 isn't much more and is a decent step up in performance (looking second hand) and doesn't carry the potential risks a second hand 13th gen does if it wasn't set up correctly and has any degregation.

i he is going to upgrade
-a monitor
-a cpu
-a cpu cooler
-a gpu
than aint you getting at a point you might as well get a new (or better 2d hand) sytem.. rather than buying parts?

the issue here is his resolution.. if he is not jumping to a higher resolution.. than cpu bottlenecking is happening much sooner..
but also he stated specificly he wants "increase in fps" logicly jumping up screen size is lowering that (but a better balance can be struck)

not only is he still playing in 4:3 (is that an old crt screen??) -> does he have reason to play at that... he also not even did the efford to up that to 1600x1200 screen (I used to have an 1600x1200 21 inch trinitron 120hz crt back in the day)