Would Microsoft Be Better Off To Remove Gaming From Their OS

[TheTrippyHippie]

I think Windows OS would be better If they removed gaming from their OS and sold a Gamer's version based around their gaming ecosystem Xbox maybe?

Reserve Windows OS for Productivity, power users, business or people who require the services a Windows desktop computer has to offer.

This would make more sense than building an OS that's trying to be everything and most likely more productive with less issues and more secure.

If they done something similar to SteamOS3 for gamer's and kept gaming away from their windows desktop OS it would most likely have less issues.

You would have 1 OS that's dedicated to gaming with only the software installed that's needed to be a gaming PC, with a desktop that can do the basics, like bench marking, email web browsing, personalising layout etc

I think something along those lines would be better for gamer's and windows OS

You would then have an OS that's dedicated to an desktop environment but not used for gaming which is most likely more secure, better suited to business, power users or users that need the features windows OS has to offer.

[nullable]

PC's are general purpose machines, trying to cripple that isn't going to work ad well as you imagine.

Dual booting would be an annoyance. Two machines would be expensive and annoying.

And besides directX and GPU's can be used in productivity tasks too, so you're talking arbitrary separation of tasks where the lines are blurred because of PC's general purpose nature. So what problem does your idea solve?

[Lithurge]

You might want to read up on Windows S i.e. they've already tried it and nobody really wanted it because it ended up being too restrictive in order to harden security and focus on productivity.

[TheTrippyHippie]

Originally posted by nullable:

PC's are general purpose machines, trying to cripple that isn't going to work ad well as uou imagine.

Dual booting would be an annoyance. Two machines would be expensive and annoying.

And besides directX and GPU's can be used in productivity tasks too, so you're talking arbitrary separation of tasks where the lines are blurred because of PC's general purpose nature. So what problem does your idea solve?

It solves Microsoft force feeding the users with stuff they don't want or will ever use.
it solves an issues loads of people have with windows 11

all of what you mentioned could be left in the desktop version or even keep the current version as it is, offer a trimmed down version for Gamer's that's more suited and polished for Users that don't need that full on Windows 11 experience

They would be related but the gamers version wouldn't need the bloat windows 11 has built in it would be a stripped down version (like what they did with the Xbox code back in the day) and more refined for gaming while feeling a lot less busy and not trying to be everything imho.

[TheTrippyHippie]

Originally posted by Lithurge:

You might want to read up on Windows S i.e. they've already tried it and nobody really wanted it because it ended up being too restrictive in order to harden security and focus on productivity.

Windows 11 left me feeling like Its for everybody but it's not for me, that's why I moved over to Bazzite.

[Zefar]

Originally posted by TheTrippyHippie:

I think Windows OS would be better If they removed gaming from their OS and sold a Gamer's version based around there gaming ecosystem Xbox maybe?

Reserve Windows OS for Productivity, power users, business or people who require the services a Windows desktop computer has to offer.

This would make more sense than to building an OS that's trying to be everything and most likely more productive with less issues and more secure.

If they done something similar to SteamOS3 for gamer's and kept gaming away from their windows desktop OS it would most likely have loads issues.

You would have 1 OS that's dedicated to gaming with only the software installed that's needed to be a gaming PC, with an desktop that can do the basics, like bench marking, email web browsing, personalising layout etc

I think something along those lines would be better for gamer's and windows OS

You would then have an OS that's dedicated to an desktop environment but not used for gaming which is better suited to business, power users or user that need the features windows OS has to offer.

A ton of gamers do both. So no this would not be useful for Microsoft to do at all in any kind of way.

Also it's not as if Windows is bad at these tasks.

It plays ALL games.
It runs ALL "productivity" programs that a work user might ever need.
It is secure.

The extra program Windows runs in the background barely affect performance at all on any half decent gaming PC.
The bloat was only an issue way back in time when CPUs where limited and the harddrives actually got slower the more you used it. That is not an issue anymore.

[Angry Gandalf]

Dude MUST be tripping.
No other way to explain this thread.

[TheTrippyHippie]

Originally posted by Angry Gandalf:

Dude MUST be tripping.
No other way to explain this thread.

Lol

[TheTrippyHippie]

Originally posted by Zefar:

Originally posted by TheTrippyHippie:

I think Windows OS would be better If they removed gaming from their OS and sold a Gamer's version based around there gaming ecosystem Xbox maybe?

Reserve Windows OS for Productivity, power users, business or people who require the services a Windows desktop computer has to offer.

This would make more sense than to building an OS that's trying to be everything and most likely more productive with less issues and more secure.

If they done something similar to SteamOS3 for gamer's and kept gaming away from their windows desktop OS it would most likely have loads issues.

You would have 1 OS that's dedicated to gaming with only the software installed that's needed to be a gaming PC, with an desktop that can do the basics, like bench marking, email web browsing, personalising layout etc

I think something along those lines would be better for gamer's and windows OS

You would then have an OS that's dedicated to an desktop environment but not used for gaming which is better suited to business, power users or user that need the features windows OS has to offer.

A ton of gamers do both. So no this would not be useful for Microsoft to do at all in any kind of way.

Also it's not as if Windows is bad at these tasks.

It plays ALL games.
It runs ALL "productivity" programs that a work user might ever need.
It is secure.

The extra program Windows runs in the background barely affect performance at all on any half decent gaming PC.
The bloat was only an issue way back in time when CPUs where limited and the harddrives actually got slower the more you used it. That is not an issue anymore.

Yeah I know what your saying But Windows 11 mate defend it as much as you want it truly is the most invasive analytical Pile of an OS that's trying to be everything I have ever used in my whole life

There has to be a better option Microsoft can offer their PC gaming community surly ?

[Zefar]

Originally posted by TheTrippyHippie:

Yeah I know what your saying But Windows 11 mate defend it as much as you want it truly is the most invasive analytical Pile of an OS that's trying to be everything I have ever used in my whole life

There has to be a better option Microsoft can offer their PC gaming community surly ?

It's the same as Win10 in terms of what it collects. Why don't you overreact on Win10?
I can in fact make the claim that you can not list the difference in what it collects on 10 vs 11.


Also you can turn down most things to a minimum too if you just looked through the Settings menu in Win11.

I've used Windows since 95 and these days it's just an operative system for me. It does what I need it to do and that's about it.

[wesnef]

"Games" is just another application. I can't see how you would "remove" games from regular Windows - all the things in it to make games work (graphics APIs, sound, etc) are all used by other programs as well.

(and if you think they're spying on you with analytics - why would you think that a "gaming only" OS wouldn't have all that stuff, too? They have just as much reason to want data on how things are running/etc for games as they do for productivity)

[TheTrippyHippie]

yeah I know I have used windows based my whole life

After windows 7 on-wards Microsofts OS path was always going to head to the cloud (a new name for server where data has always been stored, processed and moved around etc) except now more cloud (server) reliant along with much more heavy analytical user data access and control

which is all fine.

But you can turn that off yes you can But not all of it, try as you may it's a constant battle over who's in control of your OS and privacy.

with some updates it's ding as if by magic they have all been enabled to default

The OS assumes yes the user whats all these features included in the install of the OS

Rather than giving you the option to exclude the features at the start of the install process, which now some of these features are baked in to the OS and they cant be removed.

That is not a choice of features and One Size Dose Not Fit All.

Windows OS far far from what is used be and is no longer for me.

[TheTrippyHippie]

Originally posted by wesnef:

"Games" is just another application. I can't see how you would "remove" games from regular Windows - all the things in it to make games work (graphics APIs, sound, etc) are all used by other programs as well.

(and if you think they're spying on you with analytics - why would you think that a "gaming only" OS wouldn't have all that stuff, too? They have just as much reason to want data on how things are running/etc for games as they do for productivity)

yeah I know this you only have to look at Xbox consoles, so every response says NO stick how it is already.

So I can take it those who responded are fine with windows 11 which is good to hear if your a windows user I suppose.

[pasa]

Considering that gaming is the only good feature of W, why exactly would they consider to scrap exactly that?

[r.linder]

Microsoft isn't going to do that, it's extremely unlikely as they tried to stop people from going to Linux before, they don't want competition.

All the more reason why Microsoft probably wants to buy Valve, what Valve is doing with Proton and SteamOS can be a perceived threat to Windows as the more people support Linux, the better general software support it's going to get, and eventually Windows will be replaceable for billions of users.

If anything, they'll do everything they're able to get away with to stop Linux.

[TheTrippyHippie]

Originally posted by pasa:

Considering that gaming is the only good feature of W, why exactly would they consider to scrap exactly that?

And that is exactly my point Gaming is the best part of it.

If you mainly use your PC for gaming you don't need all the other crap even being apart of your OS.

And I know Microsoft are not going to do that because they already have done and it will be coming to the gen consoles.

So why not offer it to your PC gaming community as well