RTX 40 vs 50 series

[Helicopter200]

So on traditional frame render there is no big difference between 40 and 50 series but on frame generation its a big difference and since the 40 series will get DLSS 4 with improved frame generation (Multiframe generation is only for 50 series) this means i will get more frames when using DLSS and its kinda useless to upgrade from 40 series to 50 series since on traditional frame generation is no big difference? Tell me your opinion guys

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Nvidia is ripping people off with software updates instead of actually updating your rasterization performance.

Just ignore all their offerings for now until they can offer something with a meaningful value.

Unfortunately all the hardware simps are targeting these. I feel sorry for the intellectually disabled.

[Angry Gandalf]

How about waiting for the first benchmarks for gods sake?
Series hasn't even been released yet and people are acting totally weird.

Marketing seems really to work on you guys......

[Purromi]

Also it's only in supported games. So a lot of indie games will not get any upgrade.

[D. Flame]

Nvidia is just a scam now. Instead of increasing real performance, they are just adding new chips to lock down their snake oil to the new hardware.

Then they are putting out hardware that runs at 27 FPS and fakes 3 frames from every 1 real frame.

[Helicopter200]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Nvidia is just a scam now. Instead of increasing real performance, they are just adding new chips to lock down their snake oil to the new hardware.

Then they are putting out hardware that runs at 27 FPS and fakes 3 frames from every 1 real frame.

This means this would give game developers excuse to release unoptimized games and expecting you to rely on DLSS to have good FPS

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Helicopter200:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Nvidia is just a scam now. Instead of increasing real performance, they are just adding new chips to lock down their snake oil to the new hardware.

Then they are putting out hardware that runs at 27 FPS and fakes 3 frames from every 1 real frame.

This means this would give game developers to release unoptimized games and expecting you to rely on DLSS to have good FPS

This is what they are hoping for. They want game makers to rely on the Fake Frames so that you are forced to buy a new model of snake oil every year.

[Ralf]

Originally posted by Helicopter200:

So on traditional frame render there is no big difference between 40 and 50 series

So you say 5070 wont be any faster that the 2years old 4070? Source?

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Ralf:

Originally posted by Helicopter200:

So on traditional frame render there is no big difference between 40 and 50 series

So you say 5070 wont be any faster that the 2years old 4070? Source?

The official reveal showed like a difference of single digit frames. Nvidia went all in on the fake frames.

[Illusion of Progress]

Unless you're an enthusiast spending money on a hobby just because, or a professional upgrading from one top of the line to the next because it pays for itself, it has hardly ever been worth upgrading from one generation to the next.

That's not exclusive to this generation, but yes, with benefits more and more applying to upscaling and frame generation, then unless you use those things and in situations where they can be used, the performance uplifts with new generations are going to be less (or at least far more situational).

[xDDD]

Yeah it's not worth it.
Upgrading from 40-series to the 50-series is just stupid and, to be brutally honest, only braindead "oooo new shiny thing" consoomers would make that upgrade.
Or people with more money than sense, I suppose.

[Corona Scurrae]

NVIDIA is genius. They know full well the vast majority of gamers are clueless and so they created fg for Ada that barely managed to create 10 fake frames on the 4060 and with Blackwell they increase the number of fake frames to compensate for that scam.

What's raster perf? What's vram? Wait fg uses vram? Rt too? But I play games on ultra settings 4k on my 6gb card and never run into issues... Says the NVIDIA paid shill.

Whatever the case mate. Good luck in your life!

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

50 fps is 50 fps and that is what I'll expect, anything to get rid of this 4090(except DLSS garbo)

[Monk]

You can do the math to get an idea of increased performance, 5070 has about 5% more cudacores, so expect roughly that, plus a bit for improved ipc.

Likewise, the 5090 is about 30% more cores so expect around that in improved fps, plus a bit again for ipc improvements.

Finally, people need to stop calling it 'fake frames' it's not fake any more than any others are, it's just a new way of getting there.

Honestly, I think the sane thing every generation people cry about the cost and then belittle those who buy the new cards, they cannot afford them due to bad budgeting so put others down who can to feel better about their failures.

For me, I'm buying the 5090 I like 4k with all the eye candy and if they release a 4050 or 5050 I'll pick that up to upgrade my htpc and move the 3050 to another one (nvidias upscaling tech for movies is REALLY good).

[D. Flame]

This tells you all you need to know:
https://youtu.be/ORXoOKND1Tk?si=rcUDMRCum_wb-Hqv

Fake Frames

[Monk]

I see you are simply too poor to ever actually tried it so won't be the target audience anyway.

Beyond that, that is a VERY extreme example that no other card would even get half of those frames, native.

The complexity and engineering really is lost on people who say 'fake frames'.