9800X3D vs ??????

[Pocahawtness]

I am looking to buy a new PC. AMD is something new to me, so I am very unfamiliar with what they do.

The 9800X3D seems like a good choice, but I am a little concerned that it's being over-hyped. It seems that it's an E-Sports CPU, and not necessarily for me. I'm not sure about other AMD processors though. I know very little about them.

What are your thoughts on this? Is the 9800X3D a no-brainer for gamers, or are they really just for the 1080P players?

[Monk]

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go by the leaderboards and sort by the score.

clearly the average is wrong when there are plenty of user submissions to review including my own which is much higher than that average you showed.

https://novabench.com/results

rip argument indeed. ;)

Yeah, just let me bring the liquid nitrogen and OC it to 9GHz or something

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Then why not buy a 13900k, it beats the 14900k according to your logic.

GL with the lower binned CPU then.

What?...

His logic is higher score = better cpu, the 13900k is a higher rank than the 14900k systems.

[Administration]

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pure cope.

Pure head burying in sand. The lack of logic and arguments continue. Why am I ever expecting otherwise?

The thread has run its course, the thread starter probably got the answer they were looking for long before you first posted and began to drag the thread into this "I feel so insecure that I need to make this about my hardware being better than other hardware" direction, and your lack of arguments for any claims you've put forth have been repeatedly dismantled. You've made so many posts in this thread... only to say almost nothing, and you refuse to touch the comments that poke holes in your supposed logic. I wonder why? Oh well, have fun. I'm out.

more projection and cope. ;)

[A&A]

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Yeah, just let me bring the liquid nitrogen and OC it to 9GHz or something

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GL with the lower binned CPU then.

What?...

His logic is higher score = better cpu, the 13900k is a higher rank than the 14900k systems.

What I'm saying is that you are correct
13900K is basically a lower binned CPU, so GL to match 14900K

[Administration]

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What?...

His logic is higher score = better cpu, the 13900k is a higher rank than the 14900k systems.

What I'm saying is that you are correct
13900K is basically a lower binned CPU, so GL to match 14900K

Look at the rank difference.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X/4151vs4172#tffaq_anchor

Intel is the king.

[_I_]

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What I'm saying is that you are correct
13900K is basically a lower binned CPU, so GL to match 14900K

Look at the rank difference.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X/4151vs4172#tffaq_anchor

Intel is the king.

userbenchmark has always been biased toward intel


https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/rip-intel-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-7800x3d-285k-14900k-more

on the few benches that an intel cpu is on top, its the u9 285k

[A&A]

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What I'm saying is that you are correct
13900K is basically a lower binned CPU, so GL to match 14900K

Look at the rank difference.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X/4151vs4172#tffaq_anchor

Intel is the king.

The website that has a never ending april fools day?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/

https://valid.x86.fr/bench/32

Sorry, but Intel doesn't have a proper AVX512 support.

[KalGimpa]

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Look at the rank difference.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X/4151vs4172#tffaq_anchor

Intel is the king.

The website that has a never ending april fools day?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/

https://valid.x86.fr/bench/32

Sorry, but Intel doesn't have a proper AVX512 support.

not trying to argue, just learn something

everything i have read about the 512 says it is geared toward servers and the like

and that the p core/e core set up makes it so that it just won't work on e cores

what am i missing as the average consumer that i should want this that badly?

[Administration]

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Look at the rank difference.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X/4151vs4172#tffaq_anchor

Intel is the king.

The website that has a never ending april fools day?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/

https://valid.x86.fr/bench/32

Sorry, but Intel doesn't have a proper AVX512 support.

taken from https://www.userbenchmark.com ;

1. Why does UserBenchmark have a bad reputation on reddit?

"Marketers operate thousands of reddit accounts. Our benchmarks expose their spiel so they attack our reputation."

2. Why dont PC brands endorse UserBenchmark?

"Brands make boatloads on flagships like the 4090 and 14900KS. We help users get similar real-world performance for less money."

3. Why dont youtubers promote UserBenchmark?

"We don't pay youtubers, so they don't praise us. Moreover, our data obstructs youtubers who promote overpriced or inferior products."

4. Why does UserBenchmark have negative trustpilot reviews?

"The 200+ trustpilot reviews are mostly written by virgin marketing accounts. Real users don't give a monkey's about big brands."

5. Why is UserBenchmark the gold standard for users?

"Instead of pursuing brands for sponsorship, we've spent 13 years publishing real-world data for users."

their about page;

"Since UserBenchmark declines sponsorship, it has become the target of a smear campaign which intensified following improvements to the CPU effective speed index in July 2019. Billion-dollar brands can try to shut us down but they can’t change who we are, the clue is in our name. UserBenchmark serves users exclusively without corporate sponsorship or "free" samples."

UserBenchmark and Novabench are trustworthy to me and I am an expert system builder.

If userbenchmark says my CPU out performs your CPU, its because it does.

[Monk]

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The website that has a never ending april fools day?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/

https://valid.x86.fr/bench/32

Sorry, but Intel doesn't have a proper AVX512 support.

taken from https://www.userbenchmark.com ;

1. Why does UserBenchmark have a bad reputation on reddit?

"Marketers operate thousands of reddit accounts. Our benchmarks expose their spiel so they attack our reputation."

2. Why dont PC brands endorse UserBenchmark?

"Brands make boatloads on flagships like the 4090 and 14900KS. We help users get similar real-world performance for less money."

3. Why dont youtubers promote UserBenchmark?

"We don't pay youtubers, so they don't praise us. Moreover, our data obstructs youtubers who promote overpriced or inferior products."

4. Why does UserBenchmark have negative trustpilot reviews?

"The 200+ trustpilot reviews are mostly written by virgin marketing accounts. Real users don't give a monkey's about big brands."

5. Why is UserBenchmark the gold standard for users?

"Instead of pursuing brands for sponsorship, we've spent 13 years publishing real-world data for users."

their about page;

"Since UserBenchmark declines sponsorship, it has become the target of a smear campaign which intensified following improvements to the CPU effective speed index in July 2019. Billion-dollar brands can try to shut us down but they can’t change who we are, the clue is in our name. UserBenchmark serves users exclusively without corporate sponsorship or "free" samples."

UserBenchmark and Novabench are trustworthy to me and I am an expert system builder.

If userbenchmark says my CPU out performs your CPU, its because it does.

OK, you HAVE to be trolling now believing their rubbish, it's is highly unreliable and no one of worth has EVER taken it seriously.

You really cannot be much of an expert if you think highly of user bench.

They have never offered a way to get more performance and it's a joke if you believe that they offer a way to get 4090 perfirmance without buying a 4090.

Heck that whole thing reads like an angry angsty teen because no one takes their current phase seriously.

Their whole spiel is marketing to push affiliate links and adverts, nothing more deep or complex than that.

[Administration]

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Look at the rank difference.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X/4151vs4172#tffaq_anchor

Intel is the king.

userbenchmark has always been biased toward intel


https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/rip-intel-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-7800x3d-285k-14900k-more

on the few benches that an intel cpu is on top, its the u9 285k

im not buying into the userbenchmark and novabenchmark is biased nonsense.

if userbenchmark and novabench says my cpu is faster than yours, its because it is.

[Administration]

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taken from https://www.userbenchmark.com ;

1. Why does UserBenchmark have a bad reputation on reddit?

"Marketers operate thousands of reddit accounts. Our benchmarks expose their spiel so they attack our reputation."

2. Why dont PC brands endorse UserBenchmark?

"Brands make boatloads on flagships like the 4090 and 14900KS. We help users get similar real-world performance for less money."

3. Why dont youtubers promote UserBenchmark?

"We don't pay youtubers, so they don't praise us. Moreover, our data obstructs youtubers who promote overpriced or inferior products."

4. Why does UserBenchmark have negative trustpilot reviews?

"The 200+ trustpilot reviews are mostly written by virgin marketing accounts. Real users don't give a monkey's about big brands."

5. Why is UserBenchmark the gold standard for users?

"Instead of pursuing brands for sponsorship, we've spent 13 years publishing real-world data for users."

their about page;

"Since UserBenchmark declines sponsorship, it has become the target of a smear campaign which intensified following improvements to the CPU effective speed index in July 2019. Billion-dollar brands can try to shut us down but they can’t change who we are, the clue is in our name. UserBenchmark serves users exclusively without corporate sponsorship or "free" samples."

UserBenchmark and Novabench are trustworthy to me and I am an expert system builder.

If userbenchmark says my CPU out performs your CPU, its because it does.

OK, you HAVE to be trolling now believing their rubbish, it's is highly unreliable and no one of worth has EVER taken it seriously.

You really cannot be much of an expert if you think highly of user bench.

They have never offered a way to get more performance and it's a joke if you believe that they offer a way to get 4090 perfirmance without buying a 4090.

Heck that whole thing reads like an angry angsty teen because no one takes their current phase seriously.

Their whole spiel is marketing to push affiliate links and adverts, nothing more deep or complex than that.

Userbenchmark reports my CPU destroys yours. anything else?

[Monk]

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OK, you HAVE to be trolling now believing their rubbish, it's is highly unreliable and no one of worth has EVER taken it seriously.

You really cannot be much of an expert if you think highly of user bench.

They have never offered a way to get more performance and it's a joke if you believe that they offer a way to get 4090 perfirmance without buying a 4090.

Heck that whole thing reads like an angry angsty teen because no one takes their current phase seriously.

Their whole spiel is marketing to push affiliate links and adverts, nothing more deep or complex than that.

Userbenchmark reports my CPU destroys yours. anything else?

How do you figure?

Sure, with my 13400, maybe my 13900k, depending on your clock speed (feel free to share?) but, not by much, definetly not my 14900ks.

User bench also doesn't tell you that YOUR cpu beats anyone's, it's an average, now, the cpu score from 3dmark would be a more directly comparable result given it gives out a reliable number everyone actually trusts and is used for competition / World records.

Never bothered with it much on my 13900k, but I have been in the hall of fame on previous builds and held a world record, for a short time atleast lol

[r.linder]

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userbenchmark has always been biased toward intel


https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/rip-intel-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-7800x3d-285k-14900k-more

on the few benches that an intel cpu is on top, its the u9 285k

im not buying into the userbenchmark and novabenchmark is biased nonsense.

if userbenchmark and novabench says my cpu is faster than yours, its because it is.

You're not buying it because the truth hurts, the truth that the benchmarks are fake and were meaningless in reality to begin with.

[Monk]

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you are the one who is crying, stretching for the few unrealistic benches that show the 14900k ahead of the 9800x3d

again, more cope. ;)

my CPU destroys yours, deal with it.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-9800X3D/4151vsm2356328

So, your 14900kf is stock, soooo... It's slower than my 13900k, now who's coping :)

[Administration]

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again, more cope. ;)

my CPU destroys yours, deal with it.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-9800X3D/4151vsm2356328

So, your 14900kf is stock, soooo... It's slower than my 13900k, now who's coping :)

you? lol.. still.