Rysen 9 3900x with Nvidia 3060
It'll probably be the last computer I'll build for myself.
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_I_ Jan 4 @ 6:48pm 
what mobo?

the rtx 3060 only has 8 pci-e 4.0 lanes

3900x supports pci-e 4.0
but if the boards pic-e x16 slot is 3.0 the gpu will be forced to run at x8 3.0

about half of its supported bandwidth

look for 3070 or 4070 for a gpu with all 16 lanes
Originally posted by _I_:
what mobo?

the rtx 3060 only has 8 pci-e 4.0 lanes

3900x supports pci-e 4.0
but if the boards pic-e x16 slot is 3.0 the gpu will be forced to run at x8 3.0

about half of its supported bandwidth

look for 3070 or 4070 for a gpu with all 16 lanes
RTX 3060 is 4.0 x16, NVIDIA only dropped lanes with x50 tier and below for Ampere but changed with Lovelace

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb.c3682
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_I_ Jan 4 @ 7:08pm 
my bad, its the 4060 that they dropped the lanes on
Bandwidth is like R.A.M. quantity. It only makes a difference if you would otherwise oversaturate it.

The only games in this video where P.C.I.E. 3.0 makes more than a single frame of difference are Hitman 3 and R.D.R. 2. In Hitman 3 it's a difference of 149 vs 153, which is under 3% perf difference, and 53 vs 59 in R.D.R. 2, which is scarcely over 5% difference. That's using a 13900k, so we're definitely saying the 3060 isn't the system bottleneck.

This is just about the result I expect based on the 2013 Puget Systems article Impact of P.C.I.E. Speed on Gaming Performance[www.pugetsystems.com] by Matt Bach.

That was a long time ago. We have cards that can saturate the 3.0 bus now, but I think you're going higher up the stack than a 3060 before it makes a significant difference.

And yeah, like R. Linder mentioned the 3060 is a 16 lane card.
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A&A Jan 4 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by Tonepoet:
Bandwidth is like R.A.M. quantity. It only makes a difference if you would otherwise oversaturate it.

The only games in this video where P.C.I.E. 3.0 makes more than a single frame of difference are Hitman 3 and R.D.R. 2. In Hitman 3 it's a difference of 149 vs 153, which is under 3% perf difference, and 53 vs 59 in R.D.R. 2, which is scarcely over 5% difference. That's using a 13900k, so we're definitely saying the 3060 isn't the system bottleneck.
I still don't get it. Can you tell the difference between 149 and 153 fps in Hitman 3? 4FPS on paper.
Of course open world games will do better, because they use texture streaming, but it also depends on the RAM.
Last edited by A&A; Jan 4 @ 7:57pm
Whatever you do, don't get the 8GB version.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2581-nvidia-rtx-3060-8gb/
Is this already built or you planning the build?
Originally posted by A&A:
I still don't get it. Can you tell the difference between 149 and 153 fps in Hitman 3? 4FPS on paper. Of course open world games will do better, because they use texture streaming, but it also depends on the RAM.

Maybe you don't get it because you seem to be of the opinion that I think a 3% or 5% performance difference is significant, when my point is quite the opposite. I pointed those out those games to show that the difference is still fairly insignificant even in the worst case scenario shown. If the perf. difference is only 5% or less, I'd probably just say get whatever's cheaper.
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Råb!d Jan 5 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Is this already built or you planning the build?

Already built. At the time it was the most powerful I could build (afford), which was around 2020 or so. It's still pretty darn good!

I recently went from the 1660 Super to the 3060. I also maxed the slots for Ram to 16GB x 4. And a new Samsung 4Tb 990 Pro.

It's an ASRock x570 Extreme4 Wifi AX mobo.
Originally posted by Råb!d:
It'll probably be the last computer I'll build for myself.
So... Is this supposed to be a question or some type of reach out for assistance? What does all this mean exactly?
Råb!d Jan 5 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:
Originally posted by Råb!d:
It'll probably be the last computer I'll build for myself.
So... Is this supposed to be a question or some type of reach out for assistance? What does all this mean exactly?

Sure, when will my computer be replaced by a quantum computer?
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