Stutters

[Quantum]

I've been having a stutter in framerate for a couple of years now. It varies between the titles that I play so it's not really consistent/not that bad. When it does happen though, It's synced with the coil whine of the GPU. So when there is a stutter the coil whine stops, and when framerate goes back to normal the whine begins again. I keep my drivers up to date always because I use this system for other purposes. Here is my system specs:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard: ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570
RAM: Two 8 Gb Corsair Vengence RGB pro
GPU: RTX 3080 FE
Storage: 500Gb Samsung 970 EVO Plus and 1Tb Samsung 980 Pro NVME M.2
PSU:RM1000X

I was thinking maybe I should upgrade my CPU to the 5900x to see if it'll fix any problems, maybe even the ram. If neither of these are the issue then that's fine, I've been straying away from gaming anyways The problem is with gaming only.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Do you leave FPS and all uncapped and no proper Sync methods?
That might be why.

5900X isn't even worth it for Gaming. 5800X3D would be the best choice for AM4.
2x 16GB 3200 or 3600 wouldn't hurt.

[Quantum]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Do you leave FPS and all uncapped and no proper Sync methods?
That might be why.

5900X isn't even worth it for Gaming. 5800X3D would be the best choice for AM4.
2x 16GB 3200 or 3600 wouldn't hurt.

Probably should've included that. I use both gsync and vsync. Since my refresh rate of my monitor is only 165, I cap my framerate too at 163. This is all done in the nvidia control panel. I always turn off settings dealing with sync in the game and let the control panel do it instead.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Yeah you need to do more than just listen to noises. You have to run metrics overlay an look at the data of your pc as you're playing and symptoms occur.

For example, I use msi afterburner and rivatuner and enable the performance metrics. I have it set to a hotkey so i can toggle it on and off if I feel like it. When you hear the wine and see the stutter look at the values and see if you can spot something.

You might see a drop in clockspeed or see a spike in temperature. This is going to be very useful here. To me it sounds like your gpu is throttling.

Quantum님이 먼저 게시:

I was thinking maybe I should upgrade my CPU to the 5900x to see if it'll fix any problems

No, I seriously doubt it. Ive had a 3700x before and they slay any game out there. I never had any stutter only with the ftpm stutter that was fixed in a firmware update..

Hey wait a minute, is your firmware updated? That would definitely cause ftpm stutter. Yeah I forgot about that. You should investigate the ftpm or update firmware.

[Set-115689]

Power usage might be dropping causing the coil whine to stop. Might be able decrease/change the whine with undervolting?

You might get different experiences while capping the fps in msi afterburners riva tuner vs other methods.

[Guydodge]

what monitor are you using ? i noticed you say its 165hz on most monitors thats a overclock
turn off the overclock and if your monitor has some kind of overdrive use the default setting for that as well.(somewhere around 50-60% on the overdrive is normal) and for the record not all monitors are created equally some hate certain hz try locking it at 100-120-144 ect.
more likely than not your problem liies in the monitor.

[PopinFRESH]

Guydodge님이 먼저 게시:

...and for the record not all monitors are created equally some hate certain ghz try locking it at 100-120-144 ect....

I think you mean just Hz ;) I don't know of any monitor that is refreshing in the GHz range 😂

Also, yeah a lot of "165Hz" monitors are actually 144Hz panels that are being overclocked to 165Hz. Try turning off the overclock in the monitor menu and setting your refresh rate to 144Hz.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-410

This is what I was referring to. This is what caused my stutter on my 3700x. Updating the firmware solved the issue for me.

The other solution is to equip a tpm module.

[Illusion of Progress]

Quantum님이 먼저 게시:

When it does happen though, It's synced with the coil whine of the GPU. So when there is a stutter the coil whine stops, and when framerate goes back to normal the whine begins again.

I don't have (m)any ideas as to what is causing the stutter, but I want to address that this part makes sense regardless.

When the stutter happens, the graphics card momentarily isn't producing as many frames/working as hard, so the conditions causing it to coil whine aren't present.

As for ideas, as some others have said, make sure your BIOS is up to date. I had a 3700X and never had stutter issues but there were apparently known causes to it.

Another would be to play with CPPC and see if it changes anything (if not, I'd recommend leaving it enabled).

[Quantum]

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

Guydodge님이 먼저 게시:

...and for the record not all monitors are created equally some hate certain ghz try locking it at 100-120-144 ect....

I think you mean just Hz ;) I don't know of any monitor that is refreshing in the GHz range 😂

Also, yeah a lot of "165Hz" monitors are actually 144Hz panels that are being overclocked to 165Hz. Try turning off the overclock in the monitor menu and setting your refresh rate to 144Hz.

I believe that the 165hz rate is the native for my monitor model, I have a omen 27i. On it, I have only the adaptive sync enabled so I can get the smoothness :P.

W O K E I S M님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah you need to do more than just listen to noises. You have to run metrics overlay an look at the data of your pc as you're playing and symptoms occur.

For example, I use msi afterburner and rivatuner and enable the performance metrics. I have it set to a hotkey so i can toggle it on and off if I feel like it. When you hear the wine and see the stutter look at the values and see if you can spot something.

You might see a drop in clockspeed or see a spike in temperature. This is going to be very useful here. To me it sounds like your gpu is throttling.

Quantum님이 먼저 게시:

I was thinking maybe I should upgrade my CPU to the 5900x to see if it'll fix any problems

No, I seriously doubt it. Ive had a 3700x before and they slay any game out there. I never had any stutter only with the ftpm stutter that was fixed in a firmware update..

Hey wait a minute, is your firmware updated? That would definitely cause ftpm stutter. Yeah I forgot about that. You should investigate the ftpm or update firmware.

It's hard to give a definite answer here because varies, only see the clock speeds drop. Sometimes it could be cpu only, both cpu and gpu, and sometimes nothing at all. Sometimes my hardware is pegged out and MSI tells me I'm getting a constant fps but there are obvious dips.

[Guydodge]

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

Guydodge님이 먼저 게시:

...and for the record not all monitors are created equally some hate certain ghz try locking it at 100-120-144 ect....

I think you mean just Hz ;) I don't know of any monitor that is refreshing in the GHz range 😂

Also, yeah a lot of "165Hz" monitors are actually 144Hz panels that are being overclocked to 165Hz. Try turning off the overclock in the monitor menu and setting your refresh rate to 144Hz.

you think i meant ?...really yes a error.and isnt that what i just said ?gotta love BD's