TUF-RTX3070TI-O8G-V2-GAMING

[crankycritter]

Looking at updating to this GPU as 1070ti is showing its age with modern games. What are your thoughts on this 3070 ti ?

Thanks.

Current setup

intel i7-9700k

Asus ROG Maximus Xl Hero Z390

Gigabyte Geforce 1070ti

32g ram

Corsair HX 850i

Asus 1920-1080 144hz monitor

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Again I said; 4070 @ $599 ~ This is news as of March 30th 2023
https://www.engadget.com/nvidias-geforce-rtx-4070-will-reportedly-cost-599-210058860.html

As of now the average retail pricing for...
RTX 3070 = starts at approx $545
RTX 3070 Ti = starts at approx $680

[Guydodge]

引用自 Holografix：

引用自 UserNotFound：

SO, are you saying that it'd be limited to 'just' PCIe 3 x16? If so, not a worry as the GPU isn't capable of saturating the PCIe 3x16 buswidth. Heck, even the RTX 4090 might, just might, be enough to barely saturate the buswidth. PCIe 3x16 + PCIe 4x8 anyway, and neither the RTX 4080 nor the RX 7900 XTX can saturate that buswidth. So, basically, there's no loss of buswidth speed even IF the card were to do PCIe 3x16/PCIe 4x8.

are u serious? that motherboard is lga 1151. that means no ability to use to DDR5 ram, or 13th gen intel chips. it makes no sense to spend so much money on a 3080 with that system.

he doesnt need to upgrade his motherboard or ram to run a 3080 he'll be just fine the z390
is a great board and the 9700k is no slouch throw in a 3070ti/3080 for a great gaming experience.and he could even lock the cores to4.9/ 5.0ghz and pull even more out of it.im not a AMD fan but might want to consider it for the 16gb vram.and definitely jump to 1440res
monitor.

[Corona Scurrae]

if you really want to get a glorified 1080p card, that has the capability to render at 4k but is held back by the idiotic vram limitation that nvidia sets, then go for it.

there are already hundreds of reliable sources going into detail about this issue.

[UserNotFound]

引用自 Holografix：

are u serious? that motherboard is lga 1151. that means no ability to use to DDR5 ram, or 13th gen intel chips. it makes no sense to spend so much money on a 3080 with that system.

Whoa, just because he's on an older Intel platform doesn't mean his framerate's gonna tank. What's your logic behind this? That high end cards MUST go with latest Intel 13th Gen CPUs, really? I noticed you'd failed to mention AM5 as part of the 'latest' hardware, only Intel. I wonder why....

But I've digress, an RTX 4090/RTX 4080/RX 7900 XT/XTX would be perfectly fine on older platform like OP's, while 8C/8T isn't exactly ideal, it's perfectly fine for gaming, and OP has the option of going i9 9900K should he wish to upgrade to 8C/16T without breaking the bank.

[RunningBot]

I think we can stop. Holografix made his point. You've all made yours. Let's focus back in on the OP and his needs?

OP: I think, if you got 800usd or 600usd if the news is to be believed, get a 4070. It's good value for money and long term future proofing.

Another option is the RX 6800 XT for 560 usd. Both are good choices depending on the budget.

[UserNotFound]

引用自 RunningBot：

I think we can stop. Holografix made his point. You've all made yours. Let's focus back in on the OP and his needs?

OP: I think, if you got 800usd or 600usd if the news is to be believed, get a 4070. It's good value for money and long term future proofing.

Another option is the RX 6800 XT for 560 usd. Both are good choices depending on the budget.

Well, not sure about OP's budget, but at 800USD, or just a tad more at 820USD, an XFX MERC 310 RX 7900 XT 20GB can be had, trades wins against the RTX 4070 Ti, or the RTX 4070 Ti at about the same price.

[Illusion of Progress]

I think buying anything with 8 GB VRAM in 2023 is a very poor idea. Maybe if you're spending $200 or less and not looking for much, or not looking for it to last too long, fine, but $400 to $500+? For 8 GB VRAM? In 2023?

That has been the minimum amount offered on even entry level products (the RX 6500 aside, as it has its own criticism it warrants) in the last few years on the last couple generations. And it's also the absolute standard/common amount of VRAM now.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Sure, it can work. If you already have it, it's fine. But why buy in 2023 and choose 8 GB? You will be having to lower settings/visuals that the GPU itself could otherwise give you PURELY because of lack of VRAM in the future with that amount. It's already happening right now.

If you stayed with a GTX 1070 Ti this long, I get the impression you don't upgrade often. I think 12 GB is the bare minimum to look at for a not entry level purchase in 2023, and really 16 GB would be preferred.

If you're looking at an RTX 3070 Ti, an RX 6800 XT has to be not much more, if any. And on average it is typically a bit above even the RTX 3080 at low resolutions (equal at mid resolutions, and slipping at 4K) sans ray tracing, let alone that much better than an RTX 3070 Ti. And it will have twice the VRAM of the RTX 3070 Ti too.

And if ray tracing happens to be super important, guess what? That makes VRAM a bigger concern going forward.

Even ignoring VRAM, everything nVidia has below $500 to $600 is just a poor value in just GPU performance compared to alternatives. Nothing in the RTX 30 series is "worth it" anymore unless you're getting it at a price well below normal, simply because better alternatives exist otherwise.

[Holografix]

引用自 RunningBot：

I think we can stop. Holografix made his point. You've all made yours. Let's focus back in on the OP and his needs?

OP: I think, if you got 800usd or 600usd if the news is to be believed, get a 4070. It's good value for money and long term future proofing.

Another option is the RX 6800 XT for 560 usd. Both are good choices depending on the budget.

you know, maybe this is therapy for me. i literally just got the tuf 3070ti early this year. and now 2 months later all this internet chatter about 8Gb of vRAM being too low is making me sad. i looked at the 4070 and it's like ~200~ more. i guess i'm trying to defend my purchase even though i am fully aware that i maybe didn't optimize my purchase. oh well, that's life. hopefully new games are more optimized than RE4 and TLOU in their usage of vram.

ive never bought AMD so i dont know anything about it.

so there it is. good luck to all.

[RunningBot]

引用自 Holografix：

引用自 RunningBot：

I think we can stop. Holografix made his point. You've all made yours. Let's focus back in on the OP and his needs?

OP: I think, if you got 800usd or 600usd if the news is to be believed, get a 4070. It's good value for money and long term future proofing.

Another option is the RX 6800 XT for 560 usd. Both are good choices depending on the budget.

you know, maybe this is therapy for me. i literally just got the tuf 3070ti early this year. and now 2 months later all this internet chatter about 8Gb of vRAM being too low is making me sad. i looked at the 4070 and it's like ~200~ more. i guess i'm trying to defend my purchase even though i am fully aware that i maybe didn't optimize my purchase. oh well, that's life. hopefully new games are more optimized than RE4 and TLOU in their usage of vram.

ive never bought AMD so i dont know anything about it.

so there it is. good luck to all.

Reward to you boss. Way to own what your feeling/thinking. That's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man right there.

[Holografix]

引用自 RunningBot：

引用自 Holografix：

you know, maybe this is therapy for me. i literally just got the tuf 3070ti early this year. and now 2 months later all this internet chatter about 8Gb of vRAM being too low is making me sad. i looked at the 4070 and it's like ~200~ more. i guess i'm trying to defend my purchase even though i am fully aware that i maybe didn't optimize my purchase. oh well, that's life. hopefully new games are more optimized than RE4 and TLOU in their usage of vram.

ive never bought AMD so i dont know anything about it.

so there it is. good luck to all.

Reward to you boss. Way to own what your feeling/thinking. That's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man right there.

thx runningbot. i appreciate it

[Illusion of Progress]

引用自 Holografix：

引用自 RunningBot：

I think we can stop. Holografix made his point. You've all made yours. Let's focus back in on the OP and his needs?

OP: I think, if you got 800usd or 600usd if the news is to be believed, get a 4070. It's good value for money and long term future proofing.

Another option is the RX 6800 XT for 560 usd. Both are good choices depending on the budget.

you know, maybe this is therapy for me. i literally just got the tuf 3070ti early this year. and now 2 months later all this internet chatter about 8Gb of vRAM being too low is making me sad. i looked at the 4070 and it's like ~200~ more. i guess i'm trying to defend my purchase even though i am fully aware that i maybe didn't optimize my purchase. oh well, that's life. hopefully new games are more optimized than RE4 and TLOU in their usage of vram.

ive never bought AMD so i dont know anything about it.

so there it is. good luck to all.

I mean, yeah, it's bad... REAL bad that nVidia is skimping on VRAM.

Certain products are really impacted by it.

On the other hand, have YOU had issues with it in YOUR uses? If not, enjoy it. It can be a product that has a point of critisism, and one that warrants non-owners from being aware of and maybe avoiding it over, while at the same time being something you enjoy if it works for you despite that. That's what many people often forget.

If it is a problem for your uses (and you think it will be coming up), best thing you can do is what you're doing. Acknowledge it, learn from it, and move on. Sometimes we have to mess up to learn. It's life.

I hate it. I LOVE nVidia's hardware. I currently have a Pascal which was probably the one-off generation they were truly generous on VRAM. But the whole GPU market is so disappointing (AMD's new generation included). So right now it's a case of taking the least bad offering, and if it works, enjoy it.

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 crankycritter：

Looking at updating to this GPU as 1070ti is showing its age with modern games. What are your thoughts on this 3070 ti ?

I think that for less than the average going rate of that card you can get a 6900/6950xt, which is a no brainer. The 6900xt smashes a 3070ti hard. And with the 100+ saved you can even get a nice higher wattage PSU to match if you wish.

Alternatively, for roughly the same going rate as that specific 3070ti, you would be near enough to look at the 7900xt which would rofl stomp both the 3k and 6k cards.

[Holografix]

引用自 Illusion of Progress：

引用自 Holografix：

you know, maybe this is therapy for me. i literally just got the tuf 3070ti early this year. and now 2 months later all this internet chatter about 8Gb of vRAM being too low is making me sad. i looked at the 4070 and it's like ~200~ more. i guess i'm trying to defend my purchase even though i am fully aware that i maybe didn't optimize my purchase. oh well, that's life. hopefully new games are more optimized than RE4 and TLOU in their usage of vram.

ive never bought AMD so i dont know anything about it.

so there it is. good luck to all.

I mean, yeah, it's bad... REAL bad that nVidia is skimping on VRAM.

Certain products are really impacted by it.

On the other hand, have YOU had issues with it in YOUR uses? If not, enjoy it. It can be a product that has a point of critisism, and one that warrants non-owners from being aware of and maybe avoiding it over, while at the same time being something you enjoy if it works for you despite that. That's what many people often forget.

If it is a problem for your uses (and you think it will be coming up), best thing you can do is what you're doing. Acknowledge it, learn from it, and move on. Sometimes we have to mess up to learn. It's life.

I hate it. I LOVE nVidia's hardware. I currently have a Pascal which was probably the one-off generation they were truly generous on VRAM. But the whole GPU market is so disappointing (AMD's new generation included). So right now it's a case of taking the least bad offering, and if it works, enjoy it.

i have not had issues with the tuf 3070ti at all. i got it because i had a gtx1660 and it wasn't going to be enough to run the new Street Fighter 6 and DEATHLOOP at max. Aside from game related issues like Ray Tracing being broken in Youngblood (due to them using an old Vulkan driver) the 3070ti works great.

i like Nvidia as well, andi am certainly keeping an eye out for threads like these where people offer alternatives, and good advice. i appreciate your comment, Illusion of Progress.