TUF-RTX3070TI-O8G-V2-GAMING

[crankycritter]

Looking at updating to this GPU as 1070ti is showing its age with modern games. What are your thoughts on this 3070 ti ?

Thanks.

Current setup

intel i7-9700k

Asus ROG Maximus Xl Hero Z390

Gigabyte Geforce 1070ti

32g ram

Corsair HX 850i

Asus 1920-1080 144hz monitor

[NEIL]

given how terrible the optimisations of the current games are in terms of VRAM utilisation, its rough on the 8 GB cards. I am not sure if 8 GB is enough nowadays. I would wait and save more money and get a 4080 man. 3070ti is a damn good choice but its a shame the way the VRAM utilisation is handled these days.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Couple of recently launched AAA games really showed that 8 GB of VRAM is basically done, even in 1080p.

[MBK]

The 3070ti is bad value, get either a 3070 or a 3080

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-tuf-rtx4070ti-12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126607?Item=N82E16814126607

Needs 750W PSU.

[Holografix]

I have that exact GPU. The TUF 3070ti 8G V2. it's great. ask me anything u want.

[UserNotFound]

I believe Hogwarts Legacy and RE4R has shown that 8GB VRAM is being saturated and more is needed, so the RTX 3070 Ti which nVidia has handicapped with just 8GB of VRAM (when it's so capable and needs more VRAM).

Even the RTX 3080 10GB is fast showing that 10GB VRAM is not quite enough, I recall seeing a benchmark where, at higher res gaming, the RTX 3060 12GB actually beat it a little in this VRAM gobbling game. Only conclusion that can be made from this oddity is the VRAM difference between them.

Again, everybody talks about nVidia cards, what about AMD cards? The RX 6700 XT 12GB can be had for for about the price of the RTX 3060 12GB (NOT the RTX 3060 8GB which is 15%-20% weaker than the RTX 3060 12GB version IIRC). The RX 6700 XT totally outclassed the RTX 3060 12GB in rasterize gaming benchmarks, yet when peeps talk about buying a new card, nVidia comes to mind.

AMD lower mid - mid range cards offer much better price/performance value vis-a-vis nVidia's offerings, and usually a tier higher AMD card at a price comparable to a tier lower nVidia card.

[Holografix]

Publicado originalmente por UserNotFound:

I believe Hogwarts Legacy and RE4R has shown that 8GB VRAM is being saturated and more is needed, so the RTX 3070 Ti which nVidia has handicapped with just 8GB of VRAM (when it's so capable and needs more VRAM).

Even the RTX 3080 10GB is fast showing that 10GB VRAM is not quite enough, I recall seeing a benchmark where, at higher res gaming, the RTX 3060 12GB actually beat it a little in this VRAM gobbling game. Only conclusion that can be made from this oddity is the VRAM difference between them.

Again, everybody talks about nVidia cards, what about AMD cards? The RX 6700 XT 12GB can be had for for about the price of the RTX 3060 12GB (NOT the RTX 3060 8GB which is 15%-20% weaker than the RTX 3060 12GB version IIRC). The RX 6700 XT totally outclassed the RTX 3060 12GB in rasterize gaming benchmarks, yet when peeps talk about buying a new card, nVidia comes to mind.

AMD lower mid - mid range cards offer much better price/performance value vis-a-vis nVidia's offerings, and usually a tier higher AMD card at a price comparable to a tier lower nVidia card.

VRAM isn't everything. Game optimization is important as well. Control, DEATHLOOP, Wolfenstein Youngblood, all run on max settings on my 3070ti TUF with no VRAM issues.

Resident Evil 4 just came out, and it was poorly optimized. Diablo 4 beta also had a memory leak issue that ate up VRAM. I understand that 8 gigs is now considered undesirable, but for a lot of games 8 Gigs of VRAM is plenty.

[Heretic]

For Nvidia I'd look for a 3080 12gb version over a 3070Ti. Just make sure it's cheap enough. I raced one with a 3080Ti and the differences were small, and certainly not worth the price differences at the time.

[Holografix]

Publicado originalmente por Heretic:

For Nvidia I'd look for a 3080 12gb version over a 3070Ti. Just make sure it's cheap enough. I raced one with a 3080Ti and the differences were small, and certainly not worth the price differences at the time.

the difference between the 3080 12gb and the 3070ti 8gb is ~630.

OP's cpu will bottleneck the 3080

[RunningBot]

A 2080 Super or ti will give you a 30 to 50% upgrade depending on your benches for not much cost (300-400 usd used on ebay). The 3080 ti 12GB used is probably your best bet for bang for buck. Ebay has them from 500-700 usd. If you have 800-850 usd I'd check out the 4070 ti. You can always use it till you can upgrade the rest of your system later.

But BEWARE your case size. The 4070 ti is a very long card.

[Holografix]

Publicado originalmente por RunningBot:

The 3080 used is probably your best bet on a budget. Ebay has them from 500-700 usd. If you have 800-850 usd I'd check out the 4070 ti.

But BEWARE your case size. The 4070 ti is a very long card.

read OP's specs. their cpu will bottleneck the 3080

[RunningBot]

Publicado originalmente por Holografix:

Publicado originalmente por RunningBot:

The 3080 used is probably your best bet on a budget. Ebay has them from 500-700 usd. If you have 800-850 usd I'd check out the 4070 ti.

But BEWARE your case size. The 4070 ti is a very long card.

read OP's specs. their cpu will bottleneck the 3080

Ye o'ld bottleneck debate.

"It is important to note that every system has some form of CPU bottleneck. It is impossible to have complete synchronization between a CPU and a GPU. However, a game can only run as well as its slowest component allows, and it is important to know if the CPU is the component causing the bottleneck."

"Based on the benchmark of 6 games, the Intel Core i7-9700K Bottlenecks the RTX 3080 at 1080p - ultra settings by 13.7% on average." "On 1440p upwards its a completely fine combination. Only on 1080p will that CPU reach its peak before the GPU and thus bottleneck. And even then its just at very high framerates. No reason at all to switch that CPU at the moment unless you really want to."

[Bad 💀 Motha]

At this point, no one wanting to play the very latest games should consider GPUs with less then 12-16GB of VRAM. This RTX 40 series it hopefully the last dam time NVIDIA gets away with it. People buying into RTX 50 stuff with less then 16-24GB of VRAM would have to be literally crazy in the head to buy into that rip-off.

Even if you staying at 1080p; you still need AT LEAST 8GB VRAM

[RunningBot]

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

At this point, no one wanting to play the very latest games should consider GPUs with less then 12-16GB of VRAM. This RTX 40 series it hopefully the last dam time NVIDIA gets away with it. People buying into RTX 50 stuff with less then 16-24GB of VRAM would have to be literally crazy in the head to buy into that rip-off.

Even if you staying at 1080p; you still need AT LEAST 8GB VRAM

I believe the 1070ti has 8gb of VRAM. So he already has at least that.

[Holografix]

- VRAM is being sold in this thread.

Publicado originalmente por RunningBot:

Publicado originalmente por Holografix:

read OP's specs. their cpu will bottleneck the 3080

Ye o'ld bottleneck debate.

"It is important to note that every system has some form of CPU bottleneck. It is impossible to have complete synchronization between a CPU and a GPU. However, a game can only run as well as its slowest component allows, and it is important to know if the CPU is the component causing the bottleneck."

"Based on the benchmark of 6 games, the Intel Core i7-9700K Bottlenecks the RTX 3080 at 1080p - ultra settings by 13.7% on average." "On 1440p upwards its a completely fine combination. Only on 1080p will that CPU reach its peak before the GPU and thus bottleneck. And even then its just at very high framerates. No reason at all to switch that CPU at the moment unless you really want to."

ok. you saw the specs. if OP buys a 3080 or 4060, they'd be better off getting a new motherboard AND new power supply.

you really want to pair a Z390 board with a 3080?