Bridging internet connections.

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I have At&t home internet which uses 5g mobile data. And then I was offered a free trial of fiber. I have both connected to my pc since my motherboard has 2 ethernet ports. And when i did a speed test I did get close to a gig. My at&t is only 300 Mbps and my fiber is 500 Mbps. Would it help if i bridged the connections and make them one? The one is not dsl it is 5g and the 5g modem has ethernet ports which I use the wifi radios are turned off and allow no one to use wifi in my house.
Also i don't use wifi i', actually highly against people using wifi because it slows you way down. I use ethernet only and the way you should use the internet on a pc not wifi. Wifi is for people who ony use a pc to browse news sites. if you use it for anything more then that you shouldn't be using wifi at all. You don't even need to use wifi on your phones as you can buy a usb-c to ethernet adapter and have your phone wired to your internet.


Fiber
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431841187

At&t 5G
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431841589

Both together
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431841835

[_I_]

just drop the dsl, and go only fiber
ping is more important than download speeds for most things

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Originally posted by _I_:

just drop the dsl, and go only fiber
ping is more important than download speeds for most things

It's not dsl it's home 5g way different then dsl which dsl only allows 5 Mbps at max.

[HIVEmind]

Try a network gateway. I use a plain clearos. Or opensense. Or sonicwall. I use Linux flavor IPfire. Supports more and does the job. All free. Enjoy I have a 6ms lag and filtering of the bad.

[_I_]

Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:

Originally posted by _I_:

just drop the dsl, and go only fiber
ping is more important than download speeds for most things

It's not dsl it's home 5g way different then dsl which dsl only allows 5 Mbps at max.

depending on where you are, dsl can go to around 100mb/s but ping will always be 100+ms

[HIVEmind]

Yah I tried gaming on my WiFi n card in 2010. The radio lags. Like what he said. First person shooters. I was last place. I went on a mission.

For me...
Old computer. Gigabyte ep45ud3p 2010 quad core.
Get a really good rj45 10gb network card Intel, of course. 2 cards.
Filter gateway is a must for this computer.
Intrusion detection. URL filter. DNS forwarding.
Ntp server

Computer 2 asus maximus formula
Windows server 2022
DHCP, DNS, file server , and now active directory.

That's my home network 10gbit

[HIVEmind]

Gateway has ipfire.org . simple yet effective

[76561199389059995]

Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:

I have At&t home internet which uses 5g mobile data. And then I was offered a free trial of fiber. I have both connected to my pc since my motherboard has 2 ethernet ports. And when i did a speed test I did get close to a gig. My at&t is only 300 Mbps and my fiber is 500 Mbps. Would it help if i bridged the connections and make them one?


Fiber
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431841187

At&t 5G
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431841589

Both together
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431841835

Well you don't need bridging both ethernet for better connection even on Windows.
Better setup your network like below or your Windows 11 VM connected to Next-Gen Firewall/Firewall VM (pfSense/OPNsense/ipFire/OpenWRT,etc) <=> (this could be unmanaged switch or none) Internet. Happy research

Originally posted by HIVEmind:

Try a network gateway. I use a plain clearos. Or opensense. Or sonicwall. I use Linux flavor IPfire. Supports more and does the job. All free. Enjoy I have a 6ms lag and filtering of the bad.

Well this is the fact you could do with 2 Wan connections in case one of them was down, others just Lan.

Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:

They are both using ethernet i use wifi for my phone only plus my desktop don't have no wifi radio i wouldn't buy a motherboard that had wifi built in as it is pointless and worthless to me since ethernet is better and faster then wifi. But i have both modems hook up with ethernet cables going to both my ethernet ports on my my motherboard as it has 2 built in ethernet ports.

But i'm thinking of keeping both isp's which will only be 150 a month since when they are both connected i get 800 Mbps where with one i only get 300 and the other 500 but together 800.

The fact well they were operated at lesser 800 Mbps. 800 Mbps just a number in theory
Oh don't forget, routers (ASUS, Xiaomi, Linksys, included from ISP,etc) or unmanage switches they were linux based.

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Originally posted by HIVEmind:

Yah I tried gaming on my WiFi n card in 2010. The radio lags. Like what he said. First person shooters. I was last place. I went on a mission.

For me...
Old computer. Gigabyte ep45ud3p 2010 quad core.
Get a really good rj45 10gb network card Intel, of course. 2 cards.
Filter gateway is a must for this computer.
Intrusion detection. URL filter. DNS forwarding.
Ntp server

Computer 2 asus maximus formula
Windows server 2022
DHCP, DNS, file server , and now active directory.

That's my home network 10gbit

They are both using ethernet i use wifi for my phone only plus my desktop don't have no wifi radio i wouldn't buy a motherboard that had wifi built in as it is pointless and worthless to me since ethernet is better and faster then wifi. But i have both modems hook up with ethernet cables going to both my ethernet ports on my my motherboard as it has 2 built in ethernet ports.

But i'm thinking of keeping both isp's which will only be 150 a month since when they are both connected i get 800 Mbps where with one i only get 300 and the other 500 but together 800. If i keep fiber they want 175 a month for 1 Gbps.

Also i have no plans at all to switch to linux. I rather play and work on my pc instead of spending my time trying to get stuff to run on it right more so windows programs and games. Plus i don't want to learn lines of codes just to install one program/game and then when it don't work spend many hours to try and fix it. On windows my programs and games just work. At least that is how linux was 12 to 15 years ago when i tried it had to learn lines of codes to install something only for it to complain it didn't have an installer. Couldn't get nothing to work so i deleted it and used windows again.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:

Originally posted by _I_:

just drop the dsl, and go only fiber
ping is more important than download speeds for most things

It's not dsl it's home 5g way different then dsl which dsl only allows 5 Mbps at max.

It's wireless crap

You'll never have good consistent speeds or pings with a 5G service

[C1REX]

Is the broadband for gaming?

If so then I would use fiber with wired connection (no WiFi) only.
The stability is the most important for gaming and fiber on your test has 4jitter vs total unplayable, stuttery distaster jitter level on 5G. Probably lots of packets loss as well.

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Originally posted by C1REX:

Is the broadband for gaming?

If so then I would use fiber with wired connection (no WiFi) only.
The stability is the most important for gaming and fiber on your test has 4jitter vs total unplayable, stuttery distaster jitter level on 5G. Probably lots of packets loss as well.

I know this this is why I stated I am using ethernet in the op. I hate wifi and my pc don't have a wifi radio if it did I would have never bought the motherboard as wifi is the worst thing in the world and should of never been invented. I just bought a usbc to ethernet adapter for my phone so I can use my phone wired. All my routers I ever bought I have disabled the wireless radios as I don't use them.

The 5g modem has ethernet ports is what I have to use since I have no wifi on my motherboard. And wouldn't have got it if it had no ethernet ports.


Come on people read the whole op before replying so I don't have to keep repeating my self.

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As far as online gaming on it I don't online game but my kids do and they have no problems in fortnight or roblox as they have never complained about high ping or rubber banding in games. And they are all wired as I use one port on the modem the fastest port for my pc the other ethernet port goes to a 5 port switch that has all 3 of their ethernet cables.

[PopinFRESH]

That isn't bridging, and also you will still be limited by which route a session is using when streaming/downloading something. E.g. you will never have a single download exceed either the 300Mbps or 500Mbps depending on which route the session uses for the download.

If you do actually want to keep both providers for redundancy and/or traffic prioritization then I'd suggest getting a better router that actually supports dual WAN and can allow you to configure them in standby/failover or allow you to specify specific routes for certain devices on your network and/or certain traffic types to use a specific WAN.

For example you could configure such a router to send all http traffic over your 300Mbps connection while sending all traffic from your specific PC's IP over the 500Mbps connection; etc. So you can limit how much other people's web browsing would impact your computers connectivity.

There are a lot of enterprise and/or professional routers for doing dual WAN; however, probably the most popular and cost-effective for the feature sets available would be Ubiquity (UBNT) UDM-Pro[store.ui.com]. They also have a fairly large community of network professionals that use their gear and there is a lot of help there for more custom setups such as this.

Personally, unless you actually are having somewhat frequent outages on the fiber connection and would actually benefit from the failover to the 5G; then I'd recommend just canceling the AT&T 5G service and using the fiber. You'll have significantly better latency over the fiber connection; and if you actually are just wanting more throughput then upgrade the fiber connection to 1Gbps. You'll probably be spending more money on a 500Mbps fiber connection + a 300Mbps 5G wireless connection than you would for a 1Gbps fiber connection.

Also, just as an proof of what I'm talking about above; look at your "bridged" speed test. Notice how your upload was only 25Mbps instead of what your fiber can do at 512Mbps. That is because the upload test is opening a single session from your system to the speed test server and it happened to be routed over your 5G connection.

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Originally posted by PopinFRESH:

That isn't bridging, and also you will still be limited by which route a session is using when streaming/downloading something. E.g. you will never have a single download exceed either the 300Mbps or 500Mbps depending on which route the session uses for the download.

If you do actually want to keep both providers for redundancy and/or traffic prioritization then I'd suggest getting a better router that actually supports dual WAN and can allow you to configure them in standby/failover or allow you to specify specific routes for certain devices on your network and/or certain traffic types to use a specific WAN.

For example you could configure such a router to send all http traffic over your 300Mbps connection while sending all traffic from your specific PC's IP over the 500Mbps connection; etc. So you can limit how much other people's web browsing would impact your computers connectivity.

There are a lot of enterprise and/or professional routers for doing dual WAN; however, probably the most popular and cost-effective for the feature sets available would be Ubiquity (UBNT) UDM-Pro[store.ui.com]. They also have a fairly large community of network professionals that use their gear and there is a lot of help there for more custom setups such as this.

Personally, unless you actually are having somewhat frequent outages on the fiber connection and would actually benefit from the failover to the 5G; then I'd recommend just canceling the AT&T 5G service and using the fiber. You'll have significantly better latency over the fiber connection; and if you actually are just wanting more throughput then upgrade the fiber connection to 1Gbps. You'll probably be spending more money on a 500Mbps fiber connection + a 300Mbps 5G wireless connection than you would for a 1Gbps fiber connection.

Also, just as an proof of what I'm talking about above; look at your "bridged" speed test. Notice how your upload was only 25Mbps instead of what your fiber can do at 512Mbps. That is because the upload test is opening a single session from your system to the speed test server and it happened to be routed over your 5G connection.

Their 1Gbps is 175 dollars a month after the one year at 115 dollars because i don't have their cell phone service.. if i keep it will be around 150 for both saving me 25 dollars. I got the fiber for free for a one month trial.

[PopinFRESH]

Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:

Originally posted by PopinFRESH:

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Personally, unless you actually are having somewhat frequent outages on the fiber connection and would actually benefit from the failover to the 5G; then I'd recommend just canceling the AT&T 5G service and using the fiber. You'll have significantly better latency over the fiber connection; and if you actually are just wanting more throughput then upgrade the fiber connection to 1Gbps. You'll probably be spending more money on a 500Mbps fiber connection + a 300Mbps 5G wireless connection than you would for a 1Gbps fiber connection.
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Their 1Gbps is 175 dollars a month after the one year at 115 dollars because i don't have their cell phone service.. if i keep it will be around 150 for both saving me 25 dollars.

But what you said before that would be an apples to oranges comparison? You'd be spending $175/mo for their 1Gbps fiber (after 1 year) that is actually 1Gbps up and down vs spending $150/mo for a 500Mbps up/down fiber + a 300Mbps 5G wireless service that is "upto" 300Mbps down and "upto" 50Mbps up. Not to mention again your latency on the 5G connection is significantly worse and doing what you're currently doing is why you are seeing high jitter (ping variance) on that connection. Meanwhile your fiber connection is about 4ms...

I'd just do the $115/mo discounted rate for the 1Gbps fiber connection for a year and then after the year is up drop your service down to their 500Mbps fiber connection to save the extra money unless you really need the extra throughput.

EDIT: Also I'm assuming based on context that the fiber connection is also AT&T? Not sure where you're located, however, the 1Gbps AT&T fiber in my area is $90/mo with a $10/mo discount rate for auto-pay and paperless billing. No price increase after 1yr and no bundle requirement for any of their wireless services.