4080 vs 5070 ti

[Soulreaver]

Bought it ^.^

[Troll]

I wouldn't do it

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

the 5070ti is barely faster than the 4070super iirc, the only 5000 series card worth is the 5090, the 5080 sucks as it is beaten by the 4090, the 5070 is also a flop beaten by the 4080

[L1]

Sell, save, buy 4090.

[[KäPy] Switch 2 LETS GO]

5000 series drivers are broken right now.

[Soulreaver]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei:

the 5070ti is barely faster than the 4070super iirc, the only 5000 series card worth is the 5090, the 5080 sucks as it is beaten by the 4090, the 5070 is also a flop beaten by the 4080

My research shows its often on the same level as a 4080 and with DLSS applied even 5-10% faster than a 4080. It also seems to have decent OC headroom of ~10% So this could in a best case scenario combined with the faster memory lead to a close to 4090 experience.

Or atleast way closer than with my 4080 and I could even safe a 100€.

Maybe my research, math, or approach is flawed but to me it seems to be a good deal even if I halfed every percentage gain.

[AmaiAmai]

You want to sell what you have now, that you know is in working condition, for something that might not work and is in short supply?

And the reason being ...because it's new or looked better in a few games or something as dubious as "OC headroom?"

That's a terrible idea.

Keep in mind so many games are coming out broken that OC headroom should NOT be part of the argument if it means you can't even start those games without removing the OC.

[Soulreaver]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย AmaiAmai:

You want to sell what you have now, that you know is in working condition, for something that might not work and is in short supply?

And the reason being ...because it's new or looked better in a few games or something as dubious as "OC headroom?"

That's a terrible idea.

Keep in mind so many games are coming out broken that OC headroom should NOT be part of the argument if it means you can't even start those games without removing the OC.

I mean I wouldn't sell my 4080 before buying the 5070ti. I would buy the 5070 ti first and then sell my 4080.

Your post is a bit weird for me to understand as I don't understand what's dubious about OC headroom or how my former statement leads you to the statement "looked better in a few games"

Maybe I'm missing the bigger picture of your statement but at the moment it doesn't realy connect.

[AmaiAmai]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Soulreaver:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย AmaiAmai:

You want to sell what you have now, that you know is in working condition, for something that might not work and is in short supply?

And the reason being ...because it's new or looked better in a few games or something as dubious as "OC headroom?"

That's a terrible idea.

Keep in mind so many games are coming out broken that OC headroom should NOT be part of the argument if it means you can't even start those games without removing the OC.

I mean I wouldn't sell my 4080 before buying the 5070ti. I would buy the 5070 ti first and then sell my 4080.

Your post is a bit weird for me to understand as I don't understand what's dubious about OC headroom or how my former statement leads you to the statement "looked better in a few games"

Maybe I'm missing the bigger picture of your statement but at the moment it doesn't realy connect.

I mean that OC headroom shouldn't be part of the argument because some games crash after you OC and you have to remove it to start the game up or actually play the game.

When that happens, any comparison that took it into account is flawed.

The bigger issue is that how far you can do it depends not only on hardware, but also software constraints that can change in the future and further restrict the ability to overclock.

[Soulreaver]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย AmaiAmai:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Soulreaver:

I mean I wouldn't sell my 4080 before buying the 5070ti. I would buy the 5070 ti first and then sell my 4080.

Your post is a bit weird for me to understand as I don't understand what's dubious about OC headroom or how my former statement leads you to the statement "looked better in a few games"

Maybe I'm missing the bigger picture of your statement but at the moment it doesn't realy connect.

I mean that OC headroom shouldn't be part of the argument because some games crash after you OC and you have to remove it to start the game up or actually play the game.

When that happens, any comparison that took it into account is flawed.

The bigger issue is that how far you can do it depends not only on hardware, but also software constraints that can change in the future and further restrict the ability to overclock.

I don't know how much OC profiles you run that use a max OC for every game but I run one profile that runs stable among every game.

The OC effect scales per game and thats where the 5-10% come into play.

I also won't account for the possibility, that I encounter games that don't run with my OC as that doesn't happen and even then there is the question if the one exception that I might or might not encounter be worth accounting for.

In this instance I personaly wouldn't take a possible outlier that might never occure into consideration.

But beside that I also took comparative DLSS performance gain into consideration and the fact I'd even safe money and would get MFG.

[r.linder]

5070 Ti is a downgrade, it's currently barely faster than the 4070 Ti SUPER.

[Soulreaver]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย r.linder:

5070 Ti is a downgrade, it's currently barely faster than the 4070 Ti SUPER.

I know you're a lot around here so I take this answer in good faith and as more than it seems like.

Is this an analysis of the actual facts and evaluations of my preferences condenced into one sentence or just something low effort you felt like saying?

[r.linder]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Soulreaver:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย r.linder:

5070 Ti is a downgrade, it's currently barely faster than the 4070 Ti SUPER.

I know you're a lot around here so I take this answer in good faith and as more than it seems like.

Is this an analysis of the actual facts and evaluations of my preferences condenced into one sentence or just something low effort you felt like saying?

It's based on actual benchmarks, watch the GamersNexus review, without MFG it's only a few frames better in most instances and always behind the 4080.

[Soulreaver]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย r.linder:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Soulreaver:

I know you're a lot around here so I take this answer in good faith and as more than it seems like.

Is this an analysis of the actual facts and evaluations of my preferences condenced into one sentence or just something low effort you felt like saying?

It's based on actual benchmarks, watch the GamersNexus review, without MFG it's only a few frames better in most instances and always behind the 4080.

Okay I'll engage based on your recommended Video by Gamers Nexus:

5070 Ti vs 4080 at 4k

Raster
FF14: 97,2 vs 97,4
Black Myth: 51,1 vs 51,3
Starfail: 68,1 vs 70,9
Dragons Dogma 2: 73,6 vs 72,6 (+)
Resi 4: 106,5 vs 103,1 (+)

For RT they used FSR instead of DLSS so the difference will be smaller as if it was done with DLSS.

RT
Black Myth: 51,9 vs 50,8 (+)
Dogma 2: 63,3 vs 62,1 (+)
Resi 4: 117,9 vs 117,4 (+)

I don't know if I'm unable to read charts or what is going on here but for me they seem equivalent at 4k.

[Troll]

You do you

How you get a 5070ti so cheap. All the ones I see have markups, usually around $1000.

[smokerob79]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Soulreaver:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei:

the 5070ti is barely faster than the 4070super iirc, the only 5000 series card worth is the 5090, the 5080 sucks as it is beaten by the 4090, the 5070 is also a flop beaten by the 4080

My research shows its often on the same level as a 4080 and with DLSS applied even 5-10% faster than a 4080. It also seems to have decent OC headroom of ~10% So this could in a best case scenario combined with the faster memory lead to a close to 4090 experience.

Or atleast way closer than with my 4080 and I could even safe a 100€.

Maybe my research, math, or approach is flawed but to me it seems to be a good deal even if I halfed every percentage gain.

do more research......Gamer Nexus just did the full review and shows the 5070ti is BEHIND a 4080 is a lot of games.....real world you would just be trading in your old 4080 for a new 4080.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhtVic3Vm0Y