Motherboard fan question.

[Zarginnia]

Hi, i have a MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI and i accidentally damaged the fan on the motherboard so 4 fins less on that one. Can say that i have ever seen it spin.

So my question is: Do i really need it? If so how hard is it to replace?

I have pretty ok airflow in the system but that might still not be enough.

[_I_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

you give the worst advice
the board has chipset fan because it needs to cool the chipset with it
its sb/chipset heatsink alone is not enough

It's a gimmick marketing always have been, that is why i hate buying expensive stuff i supposedly worry free now i need think about fan chipset or not,
Go see Heatsink ssd or without zero performance diff

the heatsinks is to cool the chipset on the mobo not a drive or cpu or gpu

the mobo sb is used to divide pci lanes to other devices and has sata controller and other stuff on it
controls, audio, network, sata, usb, pci x1-x4 slots and maybe more stuff

if that overheats and starts to fail, you will get bsod, or other errors or just random reboots since there is no way for windows to throttle it

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

It's a gimmick marketing always have been, that is why i hate buying expensive stuff i supposedly worry free now i need think about fan chipset or not,
Go see Heatsink ssd or without zero performance diff

the heatsinks is to cool the chipset on the mobo not a drive or cpu or gpu

the mobo sb is used to divide pci lanes to other devices and has sata controller and other stuff on it
controls, audio, network, sata, usb, pci x1-x4 slots and maybe more stuff

if that overheats and starts to fail, you will get bsod, or other errors or just random reboots since there is no way for windows to throttle it

how to cool? draw already hot air inside the case, that is why PC circulation is all we need, not tiny fan

[_I_]

its cooling a specific chip on the board, that needs a heatsink and fan

x570 chipset is ~15w, it needs cooling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_chipsets

the chipsets <10w are ok with just heatsinks

[Monk]

Relally cannot tell if FatCat is a troll or truly believes what they say.

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

somebody helped me on this forum fix my blackscreen, why would being troll to the forum has helped me
but it is the truth, why would you depends on one tiny fan, your PC circulation is enough , like how hot Motherboard chipset gonna have, 90Degree? 45? can a tiny fan handle that kind of temp

[Monk]

Various electronics are more or less sensitive to heat than other ones and yes, a light breeze can be the difference between stable and not stable.

Take ddr5 ram, it us very sensitive to temperature especially at high clock speeds, to the point that having top fans as intakes blowing over the memory can be stable, but having them as exhaust moving less air can have the memory crashing.

The motherboard is also a hard component to cool overall via airflow in the case, it produces heat and has everything else that produces heat plugged into it causing no real clear paths for cool air to pass over it's components, so a small fan can make a world of difference.

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

iam just saying, Stuff is not that fragile, like oh noo My temp is 5Degree more because no fan, time to do crash, engineer wont build something that fragile, layer of protection, throttle and stuff
and once again, tiny fan wont do jacc against high temp , especially if we buy 500dollar Motherboard and depend soley purpose on that tiny fan ,

so many Corporate using gimmick, years we playing game without heatsink, then they introduced heatsink on ddr3, the temp only like 7degree lower initial, after we playing game hours, that heatsink cant protect , so why would they sell that stuff? because we always consume *drop micc

[Monk]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

iam just saying, Stuff is not that fragile, like oh noo My temp is 5Degree more because no fan, time to do crash, engineer wont build something that fragile, layer of protection, throttle and stuff
and once again, tiny fan wont do jacc against high temp , especially if we buy 500dollar Motherboard and depend soley purpose on that tiny fan ,

so many Corporate using gimmick, years we playing game without heatsink, then they introduced heatsink on ddr3, the temp only like 7degree lower initial, after we playing game hours, that heatsink cant protect , so why would they sell that stuff? because we always consume *drop micc

Some is that fragile as I explained, the engineers designed it to run with a fan as it's likely located where it won't recieve any airflow otherwise.

Sure a heatsinks alone might do the job, but a fan that only costs a few pence isn't a bad thing to help it out.

Heatsinks on motherboards have been a thing as long as I've messed with them, fans too and that's going back like 2 decades atleast.

I had heatsinks on ddr2 even, though that us going back some way.

So, you have very limited knowledge on the subject, yet feel like stating your random thoughts like they are facts and you wonder why people think you are a troll?

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

still no, and nothing can change it, tiny fan wont do jacc syit , that now how manufacture works

[Monk]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

still no, and nothing can change it, tiny fan wont do jacc syit , that now how manufacture works

Okay, if you say so, trying to explain things to you is clearly not possible as your own made up logic with no evidence is clearly superior to everyone else.

By the way, which flat earth model do you believe is real, as I get the feeling you don't believe in the earth being a globe.

Have a nice day.

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

seeing is believing, maybe you can look like smart by googling, but not for me, every thing i say here is by my experience

you cant even proof that tiny fan can actual make difference, why asking me another question

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I am actually not a fan of MOBO fans but do NOT USE third-party crap and go with the OEM fan because others may not work so you would need to use another header point but, OP, look at the MOBO temp with HWiNFO when the fan is where it is now because MOBO usually will not even get that hot at all and some MOBO's run that rear exhaust fan from the MOBO temp, which is also wrong.

But meh, I tried, the fix is very simple. 5/6 'specialty' screws, and takes 30 minutes.

Youtube has some videos for that exact board as well for replacing the MOBO fan.

[_I_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

seeing is believing, maybe you can look like smart by googling, but not for me, every thing i say here is by my experience

you cant even proof that tiny fan can actual make difference, why asking me another question

the fan will always provide airflow over the component
if it didnt need cooling none of the boards with that chipset would have a fan because it increases the production and dev cost of the boards

nearly every x570 board has a fan on its sb, it it does not it has a massive heatsink
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=138

the newer intel and amd cpus can run without a cpu cooler because the ihs cools it some, and the cpu will throttle itself and park cores when its at its max temp

the sb always needs to do something, divide pci-e lanes or run usb/audio/lan and everything attached to it, it cant be slowed without causing bigger problems

[Zarginnia]

would it work to just take w/e heatsink there is from another motherboard? like an older one or any at all. Remove fan and heatsink then attatch the one from another board?

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarginnia:

would it work to just take w/e heatsink there is from another motherboard? like an older one or any at all. Remove fan and heatsink then attatch the one from another board?

dont do Ghetto DIY bro, bring it to your vendor, you pay 15Dollar, Or 30 with the part