In need of new Monitor, but cant decide. Help needed.

[Soldner42]

Hey there,
Im in need of a new Monitor, but i cant decide which one to pick.
Currently i have an ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ.
And tbh. i really like this one. But sadly, it has the sam Issues as all of its Brothers. It seems that its G-Sync Module is near death and i have Issues turning the Monitor on. I fear, that in the coming Days the Monitor will die entirely.

Which is why im in search for a new one. But to my frustration i had to find out that my Monitors Successor and similar ones from the other Corporations never got built.

Now im stuck with Monitors that are barely better or sometimes even worse than my current one. But i need to decide, but i cant.

To me, Colors and overall Picture fidelity is most important. Then comes everything else.
This is why i choose back in the day my 4K IPS Panel with HDR1000 and Quantum Dot.
The Picture Quality is really nice.

Which is why im trying to get a similar one or even the same if thats possible.

But the first Problem i have is that most Monitors with good Pictures are often OLEDs.
Not that i dislike OLEDs, they have brilliant Colors. But i fear that when i use one for my Desktop PC that i will get burn ins and also they often come with only HDR400 and i dont know if thats really a noticeable difference to an IPS Panel with HDR1000, as the OLEDs themself can adjust their brightness thus bringing up the question if they even need HDR or not.
But yeah, Burn Ins. HDR Questionable, i really dont know if i should get one or stay with IPS Panels.

Then the next thing that bothers me is that when i find a Monitor of high Quality that they often come with FreeSync, FreeSync Premium or FeeSync Premium Pro.
Currently i have GSync which works only when HDR is disabled, but when it works it does help at lot as in i have zero Screen Tearing. So ofcourse, as the Human that i am, i would like to stay with what i know.
But there i will probably face the same Issues that i face currently, the G-Sync Module being the Source of all the Problems i have currently with my Monitor.
So the Question: FreeSync in all of its forms, is it compareable to G-Sync or is it even better? I read that FeeSync isnt bound to Hardware like G-Sync. G-Sync needs an NVidia GPU and ofcourse a Monitor with the Module. Meanwhile FreeSync seemingly doesnt.
But hows the Quality then? Worse, equal or better?

TLDR: im looking for a Monitor with the best possible Picture Quality, that does everything to eliminate Screen Tearing and is HDR capable. And in the best Case it wont get Burn Ins like OLEDs did (still do?). And in best case as 120Hz. I dont need more Hz, often i limit my display to 60FPS anyway, but for some Games 120FPS/120Hz is really nice.
4K
HDR
120Hz
IPS / OLED(?)
G-Sync / FreeSync(?)
Quantum Dot?(only Salesman speak?)

Currently im looking at these Monitors and am stuck. I cant decide. :(

MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-MPG-321URX-QD-OLED-Monitor/dp/B0CS6QFWTB/ref=sr_1_3?a=b&sr=8-3


LG Ultragear™ 32GS95UE-B
https://www.amazon.de/LG-UltragearTM-32GS95UE-B-Gaming-PC-Monitor-Zoll/dp/B0CZ3NH8P3/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&sr=8-1


ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQXR
https://www.amazon.de/ASUS-ROG-Swift-PG32UQXR-DisplayHDR/dp/B0CB8QFLLF/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&sr=8-3


ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP
https://www.amazon.de/PG248QP-Gaming-Monitor-Aura-Sync-Esports-TN/dp/B0D9VR8RPH/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=computers&sr=1-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY


Money doesnt play a role, if there is enough reason for a high Price.
But who knows, maybe there are even more out there that i just didnt found so far.
Can someone help me please?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Maybe look into mini-LED IPS, they don`t have burn in and picture is way better then regular IPS:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#P=11&r=384002160&sort=price

[Mr. Hubble]

Well if money is no object I'd go with the SAMSUNG 55" Odyssey Ark 2nd Gen 4K UHD 1000R Curved Gaming Monitor, 165Hz, 1ms, 4 Input Multi View, Quantum Mini-LED, AMD FreeSync Premium Pro, HDR 10+, Height Adjustable Screen, at Best Buy or Amazon. If you buy at Best Buy a Geek squad member will come out to your house and set it up for you. Sweet.

[matt]

OLED is the best panel type, but, yes, it has an increased risk of burn-in. If you find that scary and likely to keep you awake at night, you could go with IPS instead.

If you want the best experience, you should look at something that supports HDR 1000 (or better), not entry level HDR. The high end HDR certifications require features not found in lower certifications, such as local dimming.

You should look for a very low response time, like 1ms or less. Make sure the specs are quoting the "gray to gray" or "gtg". 4ms is actually fine, but if you want a high end monitor, there's no point in settling for good enough.

There's really no reason to settle for a low refresh rate if you're unburdened by budget issues. 240 Hz monitors are becoming fairly common now. I think Samsung might even have a few 4k monitors faster than that now.

Gsync is hardware-based and only works on Nvidia cards. Freesync is not hardware-based, and it works on anything. Gsync is more expensive. If you don't care about cost or using Radeon cards, you might as well go with Gsync. There's nothing wrong with Freesync, though.

You already know about Asus monitors, and my experiences have been good, too. However, some people have sworn them off because of their customer support. So, I guess take that into consideration?

I have a reasonably high end MSI monitor. And motherboard, and other random stuff, too. It was never by design. MSI just has good prices and a solid reputation. MSI products are good but can have minor little quirks. Like my motherboard and monitor both have a long warmup.

I have a reasonably high end Acer monitor, too. And one or two in my closet. Acer is pretty good. Acer's quirks tend to be a bit more in-your-face than MSI, such as my Acer monitor having a terrible OSD. But I only care about the OSD once a month.

I have no experience with LG monitors, but they've got a reputation on par with Samsung. And I guess that's the problem -- I never really saw a reason to buy LG when I could buy Samsung.

[VisciousFishes]

LG Display (a separate company from LG Electronics) make the panels for Samsung, Sony, Phillips, Panasonic and of course, LG Electronics.

Like TSMC make chips for multiple brands, LG Display does the same thing.

[Soldner42]

Publicado originalmente por Rumpelcrutchskin:

Maybe look into mini-LED IPS, they don`t have burn in and picture is way better then regular IPS:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#P=11&r=384002160&sort=price

Thank you very much for the Link. Never heard of the site before, but actually its a kinda neat Site.
Sad thing is, now i have more Monitors to think about and me being unable to finally settle for one. xD

[Soldner42]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Hubble:

Well if money is no object I'd go with the SAMSUNG 55" Odyssey Ark 2nd Gen 4K UHD 1000R Curved Gaming Monitor, 165Hz, 1ms, 4 Input Multi View, Quantum Mini-LED, AMD FreeSync Premium Pro, HDR 10+, Height Adjustable Screen, at Best Buy or Amazon. If you buy at Best Buy a Geek squad member will come out to your house and set it up for you. Sweet.

okay, i have to add one more limitation. :D
Actually, i dont have the space for a 55" Monitor, even when its curved. Currently i have a 27" Monitor, and that fits quite easiely on my Desk. I think a 32" Monitor would also fit, alltho being a little troublesome if i had to access the back of my PC.
But a 55" is overkill for my Desk. But thank you nonetheless. I googled the Monitor and saw that the Lineup of Samsung also has smaller ones.

[Soldner42]

Publicado originalmente por matt:

OLED is the best panel type, but, yes, it has an increased risk of burn-in. If you find that scary and likely to keep you awake at night, you could go with IPS instead.

If you want the best experience, you should look at something that supports HDR 1000 (or better), not entry level HDR. The high end HDR certifications require features not found in lower certifications, such as local dimming.

You should look for a very low response time, like 1ms or less. Make sure the specs are quoting the "gray to gray" or "gtg". 4ms is actually fine, but if you want a high end monitor, there's no point in settling for good enough.

There's really no reason to settle for a low refresh rate if you're unburdened by budget issues. 240 Hz monitors are becoming fairly common now. I think Samsung might even have a few 4k monitors faster than that now.

Gsync is hardware-based and only works on Nvidia cards. Freesync is not hardware-based, and it works on anything. Gsync is more expensive. If you don't care about cost or using Radeon cards, you might as well go with Gsync. There's nothing wrong with Freesync, though.

You already know about Asus monitors, and my experiences have been good, too. However, some people have sworn them off because of their customer support. So, I guess take that into consideration?

I have a reasonably high end MSI monitor. And motherboard, and other random stuff, too. It was never by design. MSI just has good prices and a solid reputation. MSI products are good but can have minor little quirks. Like my motherboard and monitor both have a long warmup.

I have a reasonably high end Acer monitor, too. And one or two in my closet. Acer is pretty good. Acer's quirks tend to be a bit more in-your-face than MSI, such as my Acer monitor having a terrible OSD. But I only care about the OSD once a month.

I have no experience with LG monitors, but they've got a reputation on par with Samsung. And I guess that's the problem -- I never really saw a reason to buy LG when I could buy Samsung.

Well, Burn ins might be a Problem to me indeed as i tend to play pretty much the same Games for quite some time. And most of them being Strategy Games, meaning i have a HUD or atleast a Mini Map displayed all the time, which i fear will burn in/burn out the OLEDs sooner or later, as in in a few Years. :(
Other than that i really dont know whats more gorgeous.
Like, Mini-LED HDR Monitors are able to reach 1000 Nits and can also shut off their LEDs in Zones. Not as precise as OLEDs, but able to.
Also, as far as i know OLEDs shouldnt get hot, meaning they most of the time are limited to 400Nits of HDR and not for a long time until they get dimmed to reduce the Heat.
In other Words. I dont know whats better looking, OLED or Mini-LED with proper HDR.
But i think i will go with a Mini-LED, as the Burn-In thing does bother me quite a bit. And the tradeoff for a little bit worse Blacks and maybe some blooming and clouding dont seem soo bad to me. I mean, it didnt bother me with my current LCD IPS HDR Panel, so it should only get better for me. :D

Thing with G-Sync is, that i fear the same thing that currently happens will happen again, as in, that the Module is the Root of the Problem. It seems that all Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ suffer from the same Issue, the G-Sync Module overheating and resulting in the Monitor not being able to turn on some day.
Which really makes me struggle to go with a G-Sync once more. On the other Hand, if it works, it works very well. When i enable HDR, i cant enable G-Sync and in some Games it shows. In some Games i get terrible Screen Tearing, which led me to cap Games to certain Framrates, like 119 or 59 to avoid that when HDR is enabled, alltho sometimes it still climbs too far and gives me Screen Tearing.
Would be ofcourse another thing if NVidia fixed the overheating Issues the G-Sync Module had so that it would be reliable over a long time. Then i wouldnt even think about it and just go with it.

Tbh. i dont mind terrible OSDs or Software shenanigans aslong they dont bother me all the time. If the Monitor works, it works. Thats all that matters to me. I barely use any Features of my current ASUS, except for the Virtual Crosshair in some Games where the OGs one are just too tiny or badly visible. But other than that i dont care much for the "side Stuff". So that should only be a Minor Problem.
I value Picture Quality and Reliability. :D

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I like mini-LED if it is at a good price and has at least HDR 1000.

[matt]

I have an Acer XV275K P3, reviewed here[www.rtings.com], and it's pretty great. It's an IPS mini-LED 4k monitor with HDR1000. The local dimming isn't high end, and the review criticizes its input lag. I can't really say that I've noticed it, though.

It can do 4k, HDR, and 160 Hz simultaneously over DP. HDMI is limited to 144 Hz. The latest DP and HDMI standards can handle almost anything. DP is usually the better choice for PCs. You'll want a high end HDMI port (and cable) if you plan on using it with a console or watching Netflix, though. Netflix requires HDCP support, which is only on HDMI.

I have an OLED tablet and smartphone. I don't take any precautions to prevent burn-in, but I've never had any problems. I mostly take lots of pics. My phone is a flagship Pixel 8 Pro, so the HDR looks great. Looks good on my 27" IPS monitor, too, but the Pixel has a crazy high PPI and even better tech.

Beside the XV275K, I've got an MSI 343CQR. It's a 3440x1440 ultrawide VA panel with HDR400. That's entry level, but the contrast helps and makes RPGs look great. I have a bunch of Skyrim mods designed to heighten immersion, and it looks beautiful.

A lot of IPS monitors have terrible contrast, which is one reason why you see people fawning over OLED in gaming forums. Unlike IPS, the blacks actually look black. Good contrast looks amazing when you're exploring a dark dungeon, shining a flashlight in a haunted house, etc. Probably not a life-changer if you're playing Counter-Strike or Civ 7, though.

A high end mini-LED IPS panel can get you pretty far. I'm happy with mine. I can't really imagine it competes against OLED monitors on anything except price, though.

As far as Gsync, that's out of the picture for me. I switched to all AMD builds, so my PCs are no longer compatible with proprietary Nvidia tech.

I had specific requirements for my new monitor: it had to be 27" to fit on my desk, IPS so I could afford it, use FreeSync to work with my AMD PC, and support 4k HDR1000 so I could watch Netflix on PC.

Maybe this will help you:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/gaming-monitors-4k
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/oled

[Rod]

4k 240hz oled is great and flexible. 120hz works a dream and if you have to run at 60fps use framegen built into the nvidia app on 5000 series or lossless scaling and set the framegen to x2 so 60 > 120. All 16.9 res is covered really they do it all but 32 inch thats a tv not a monitor.


I think the 27 inch 166ppi oleds that do 240hz with dp 2.1 like the PG27UCDM are the best.

[Soldner42]

after a lot of reading, and a lot of help from all you Guys, i think i found the one Monitor i might get comfortable with.
But i first wanted to hear what you all have to say.

Its an LG Ultragear
LG Electronics 27GR95UM-B.AEU Ultragear
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0D1KGH9QV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
Its the 27Inch 4K (Nano?)Mini-LED IPS with 160 Hz.

[Rod]

Publicado originalmente por Soldner42:

after a lot of reading, and a lot of help from all you Guys, i think i found the one Monitor i might get comfortable with.
But i first wanted to hear what you all have to say.

Its an LG Ultragear
LG Electronics 27GR95UM-B.AEU Ultragear
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0D1KGH9QV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
Its the 27Inch 4K (Nano?)Mini-LED IPS with 160 Hz.

Its trash for 978 euros!!!! One of the worst picks ive seen literally its all bad. You can get a cheaper OLED the AW3423DWF has been on sale for €794!


Bad refreshrate
Bad panel
Bad price


Try

https://www.amazon.de/Alienware-Curved-Monitor-AW3423DWF-34-Inch/dp/B0BHTDDMDN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=16JM77HN44NI6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HIHlNKrZ6WkDe-POgIrX8kd8oN5smOb8JIo42dnW1aIB7shng6Ml4GIowbgrzwCHC8F0NajHD4M-Hw9uHy1xlz2ThlGy4wufpNvSt1c2iv8LC7dZAkRrUmaZD_nBpZ2I0PfNK6yqZ1KSnTJD9nQ_pjto-FKTTDivhB8gaB7dB2pfhrzIPEgQPhBeicKMqQG6z04J7Mfp6iK55g-lWTACDQ.V7VoXtmIG5UBxnKJkwuOlMY8OBp5Cejxbckn28-jIws&dib_tag=se&keywords=aw3423dw&qid=1741876475&sprefix=aw3423%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-3


Or

https://www.amazon.de/Philips-Evnia-49M2C8900

[SHREDDER]

How many years you have it? The problem could be also graphics card. I have mine DELLP2416D for 8 years and 9 months and still works perfectly.

[SHREDDER]

Publicado originalmente por Soldner42:

after a lot of reading, and a lot of help from all you Guys, i think i found the one Monitor i might get comfortable with.
But i first wanted to hear what you all have to say.

Its an LG Ultragear
LG Electronics 27GR95UM-B.AEU Ultragear
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0D1KGH9QV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
Its the 27Inch 4K (Nano?)Mini-LED IPS with 160 Hz.

Could this monitor be a good choice when the DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS that i have now burns?

[Soldner42]

Publicado originalmente por Rod:

Publicado originalmente por Soldner42:

after a lot of reading, and a lot of help from all you Guys, i think i found the one Monitor i might get comfortable with.
But i first wanted to hear what you all have to say.

Its an LG Ultragear
LG Electronics 27GR95UM-B.AEU Ultragear
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0D1KGH9QV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
Its the 27Inch 4K (Nano?)Mini-LED IPS with 160 Hz.

Its trash for 978 euros!!!! One of the worst picks ive seen literally its all bad. You can get a cheaper OLED the AW3423DWF has been on sale for €794!


Bad refreshrate
Bad panel
Bad price


Try

https://www.amazon.de/Alienware-Curved-Monitor-AW3423DWF-34-Inch/dp/B0BHTDDMDN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=16JM77HN44NI6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HIHlNKrZ6WkDe-POgIrX8kd8oN5smOb8JIo42dnW1aIB7shng6Ml4GIowbgrzwCHC8F0NajHD4M-Hw9uHy1xlz2ThlGy4wufpNvSt1c2iv8LC7dZAkRrUmaZD_nBpZ2I0PfNK6yqZ1KSnTJD9nQ_pjto-FKTTDivhB8gaB7dB2pfhrzIPEgQPhBeicKMqQG6z04J7Mfp6iK55g-lWTACDQ.V7VoXtmIG5UBxnKJkwuOlMY8OBp5Cejxbckn28-jIws&dib_tag=se&keywords=aw3423dw&qid=1741876475&sprefix=aw3423%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-3


Or

https://www.amazon.de/Philips-Evnia-49M2C8900

Im not a big Fan of 21:9,
But i found the Phillips Evnia with 32Inch, which looks nice. But i shouldnt have read the Comments below it. Because now im thinking about the Phillips Evnia or an Samsung Odyssey G80SD OLED
What do you think about the Samsung Odyssey G80SD OLED?
Is it compareable? Worse? Better?