that moment when you ordered new RX 9070 XT just to get hit with a

[AllergicToBrainRot]

Insufficient stock to process your order(s) email -.-

Update: I was ordering what I could and managed to pre-ordered an:

XFX Swift AMD Radeon RX 9070 OC White Triple Fan Gaming Edition with 16GB GDDR6 HDMI 3xDP. (I realize It's the non XT version. It's too late as XT version is SOLD OUTeverywhere).

Which releases on the 8th. I never pre ordered a gpu before and I don't know when it will charge me. I assume on the release date? I hope this one was a good pick.

Update: I canceled my order on the non xt version. I really want that XT version for 1440p gaming. Wish me luck on getting the XT version! Thank you everyone!

UPDATE!: Newegg stocked two 700+ RX 7090 XT at 12pm central time and i managed to order the gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC for 790$ ! It charged me so that mean's it didn't auto cancel it! Coming to me match 3rd. Only thing left is to buy an extra gpu cable since it's 3 8-pins.

Update 3/14/25: My GIGABYTE RX 9070 XT OC came in the mail about last night. I found out the extra PCI-E was the wrong brand and almost fried my PSU and GPU!. I had to google to find the right one for my PSU. It's gonna take a week to arrive. All well. ♥♥♥♥ happens!

[Bad 💀 Motha]

A used 4080 or 4080 Super under $2000; good luck

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

decizion の投稿を引用：

°§hªwÑéë· の投稿を引用：

Just go and look at the reviews on youtube and make a your own decision, there have enough reviews about these cards.

https://www.youtube.com/@GamersNexus/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@Hardwareunboxed/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/videos

All of them are shilling hard for Radeon but the performances are not there. If you can find 4080 used or 4070super at a good price it totally destroy the 9070 XT.
If you can also get 5070 at MSRP or a 5070ti at MSRP for just $150 more then this is a more interesting and future proof investment.
They are already scalping the prices for the 9070 XT and they will increase the MSRP soon from what I've heard making it an even worse purchase.

Some bad info in there. 4070 Super will not beat 9070 XT, it`s about 9070 performance.
Also 5070 will not beat 9070 XT, 5070 has same performance as 4070 Super.
Only things that would outperform 9070 XT would be 4070 Ti Super or higher or 5070 Ti or higher.

[decizion]

Rumpelcrutchskin の投稿を引用：

decizion の投稿を引用：

All of them are shilling hard for Radeon but the performances are not there. If you can find 4080 used or 4070super at a good price it totally destroy the 9070 XT.
If you can also get 5070 at MSRP or a 5070ti at MSRP for just $150 more then this is a more interesting and future proof investment.
They are already scalping the prices for the 9070 XT and they will increase the MSRP soon from what I've heard making it an even worse purchase.

Some bad info in there. 4070 Super will not beat 9070 XT, it`s about 9070 performance.
Also 5070 will not beat 9070 XT, 5070 has same performance as 4070 Super.
Only things that would outperform 9070 XT would be 4070 Ti Super or higher or 5070 Ti or higher.

4070super is better than 9070 XT in 1440p/2160p in games with Ray tracing.

Many modern games are already using Ray tracing by default without any possibilities to opt out. To be future proof it’s better to have a gpu capable to deliver decent performances in Ray tracing.

5070 beats the 9070XT in Ray tracing again. Let’s also not forget about Nvidia multi frame generation and the far SUPERIOR DLSS which massively improve both graphical fidelity and frame rate.

[°§hªwÑéë·]

decizion の投稿を引用：

°§hªwÑéë· の投稿を引用：

Just go and look at the reviews on youtube and make a your own decision, there have enough reviews about these cards.

https://www.youtube.com/@GamersNexus/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@Hardwareunboxed/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/videos

All of them are shilling hard for Radeon but the performances are not there. If you can find 4080 used or 4070super at a good price it totally destroy the 9070 XT.
If you can also get 5070 at MSRP or a 5070ti at MSRP for just $150 more then this is a more interesting and future proof investment.
They are already scalping the prices for the 9070 XT and they will increase the MSRP soon from what I've heard making it an even worse purchase.

decizion の投稿を引用：

°§hªwÑéë· の投稿を引用：

Just go and look at the reviews on youtube and make a your own decision, there have enough reviews about these cards.

https://www.youtube.com/@GamersNexus/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@Hardwareunboxed/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/videos

All of them are shilling hard for Radeon but the performances are not there. If you can find 4080 used or 4070super at a good price it totally destroy the 9070 XT.
If you can also get 5070 at MSRP or a 5070ti at MSRP for just $150 more then this is a more interesting and future proof investment.
They are already scalping the prices for the 9070 XT and they will increase the MSRP soon from what I've heard making it an even worse purchase.

I know in my country there is a price difference of $600 between a 9070 XT and the 5070ti
for some that will have an effect on the decision, especially if you just started getting into gaming on PC's.

And with nvidia dropping support for some physx titled games on the 50 series how long before they do it with RT, also there's the quality control with the cards with missing ROP's and melting cables.

[Monk]

Yeah you are looking at a 4070 ti to match / beat the 9070xt, so AMD is only 1generation behind now!
But, if you can get them at base MSRP, a very good price, though you are using notably more power, doesn't bother me, but some do care.

I am waiting to see what both cards can go overclocked and possibly power modded, the 50 series seems to all o er lock really well, thry are just really held back by power and not seen anyone even look at overclocking a 9070/xt yet so no idea how much extra they have to give.

For a few months though, you are going to be out of luck getting a card at msrp I suspect.

The real 'best' option will be de used once supply and prices are normalised, if a 9070xt is notably cheaper than the 5070ti, that's probably the best option, if it gets within 100 bucks though, I'd say the 5070ti has it.

Of note is once prices and supplies are normalised, the second hand prices on everything but the 4090 should drop considerably (4090 excluded as its notably ahead of the 5080 still).

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

decizion の投稿を引用：

Rumpelcrutchskin の投稿を引用：

Some bad info in there. 4070 Super will not beat 9070 XT, it`s about 9070 performance.
Also 5070 will not beat 9070 XT, 5070 has same performance as 4070 Super.
Only things that would outperform 9070 XT would be 4070 Ti Super or higher or 5070 Ti or higher.

4070super is better than 9070 in 1440p/2160 in games with Ray tracing.

5070 beats the 9070XT in Ray tracing again. Let’s also not forget about Nvidia multi frame generation and the far SUPERIOR DLSS which massively improve both graphical fidelity and frame rate.

Benchmarks that I saw had 9070 doing ray tracing in Cyberpunk at exact same fps then 5070.
9070 and 9070 XT are way better at ray tracing then AMD`s previous generations.
In many tests 5070 couldn`t even properly use its "superior DLSS" because it was running out of VRAM, 12 GB is not enough.

[Monk]

°§hªwÑéë· の投稿を引用：

decizion の投稿を引用：

All of them are shilling hard for Radeon but the performances are not there. If you can find 4080 used or 4070super at a good price it totally destroy the 9070 XT.
If you can also get 5070 at MSRP or a 5070ti at MSRP for just $150 more then this is a more interesting and future proof investment.
They are already scalping the prices for the 9070 XT and they will increase the MSRP soon from what I've heard making it an even worse purchase.

decizion の投稿を引用：

All of them are shilling hard for Radeon but the performances are not there. If you can find 4080 used or 4070super at a good price it totally destroy the 9070 XT.
If you can also get 5070 at MSRP or a 5070ti at MSRP for just $150 more then this is a more interesting and future proof investment.
They are already scalping the prices for the 9070 XT and they will increase the MSRP soon from what I've heard making it an even worse purchase.

I know in my country there is a price difference of $600 between a 9070 XT and the 5070ti
for some that will have an effect on the decision, especially if you just started getting into gaming on PC's. And all

And with nvidia dropping support for some physx titled games on the 50 series how long before they do it with RT, also there's the quality control with the cards with missing ROP's and melting cables.

Roos is 0.5%, seems some shipments got messed up, cables us most likely user error same as with the 30 and 40 series dye to the accused 12vhpwr connector.

As for prices, you sort of cannot judge it right now, but need to look at nsrp and look forwards 3 to 6 months.

[AmaiAmai]

decizion の投稿を引用：

Rumpelcrutchskin の投稿を引用：

Some bad info in there. 4070 Super will not beat 9070 XT, it`s about 9070 performance.
Also 5070 will not beat 9070 XT, 5070 has same performance as 4070 Super.
Only things that would outperform 9070 XT would be 4070 Ti Super or higher or 5070 Ti or higher.

4070super is better than 9070 XT in 1440p/2160p in games with Ray tracing.

Many modern games are already using Ray tracing by default without any possibilities to opt out. To be future proof it’s better to have a gpu capable to deliver decent performances in Ray tracing.

5070 beats the 9070XT in Ray tracing again. Let’s also not forget about Nvidia multi frame generation and the far SUPERIOR DLSS which massively improve both graphical fidelity and frame rate.

How do you know the future and what will be future proofed?

When Nvidia's proprietary technology cannot be decompiled and runs worse on older, less expensive hardware even in their own stack for little to no visual fidelity, how can you know the same won't happen to your future older gen Nvidia hardware?

Also, you're making a lot of assumptions about the future beyond just that. You're assuming:

1. Raytracing will be baked into engines

2. Engine developers will choose to bake in NVIDIA's implementation

3. The current cards will be able to run NVIDIA's future implementations which gobble up more resources and exist solely to push you into buying newer, ever more expensive cards

4. Most games will implement this

Every step of such assumptions that fail lower the value of the card. When you have to make a recommendation on so many assumptions, it's no longer sound advice IMO.

[Zef]

Rod の投稿を引用：

You are better off with a 5070ti and a full fat Displayport 2.1 80GB port only Nvidia offer future proofed and full fat 80GB ports.

Not in europe and the rest of the world, the cheapeast 5070TI's are around 1.25K, mostly at around 1.4-1.5K.

At that point a 800-1000 EUR 9070XT still makes a whole lot more sense.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

WTF then what is a 4080 or 5080 going for?
I mean dam for $1000 I can get a 4080 Super. I just don't really need it right now.
9070 XT in one PC and the 3 others have 3080, and 3080 Ti

[C1REX]

I don’t think the 9070xt should be compared to a 5070Ti that is a better card but at a different price range.
9070xt is in 5070 base price range. Theoretically.
9070xt offers more raster performance and more VRAM for just $50 more. (based on msrp what may not have any connection with reality). 5070 offers superior DLSS4 upscaling.

[Lithurge]

Bad 💀 Motha の投稿を引用：

WTF then what is a 4080 or 5080 going for?
I mean dam for $1000 I can get a 4080 Super. I just don't really need it right now.
9070 XT in one PC and the 3 others have 3080, and 3080 Ti

The 5080 is just under £1400 compared to £700 for the 9070xt.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Ah OK, well then I guess £700 for the 9070 not too bad. Is that 9070 or 9070 XT ?

[Lithurge]

Bad 💀 Motha の投稿を引用：

Ah OK, well then I guess £700 for the 9070 not too bad. Is that 9070 or 9070 XT ?

XT

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-pure-16gb-gddr6-graphics-card-rdna4-4096-streams-3010mhz-boost

[Skyblue]

Lithurge の投稿を引用：

Bad 💀 Motha の投稿を引用：

WTF then what is a 4080 or 5080 going for?
I mean dam for $1000 I can get a 4080 Super. I just don't really need it right now.
9070 XT in one PC and the 3 others have 3080, and 3080 Ti

The 5080 is just under £1400 compared to £700 for the 9070xt.

Scan has a 5080 Zotac OC for £1100

ETA end of march

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/zotac-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-solid-oc-gddr7-ray-tracing-graphics-card-dlss-4-10752-cores-2640-mhz-b