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And what are the shipping costs, import fees, taxes, etc in Sweden? Are they identical to the U.S. costs? The differences may matter.
The population of Sweden is also a fraction of the U.S. so the costs per unit might shake out differently too. IE the costs to ship a hundred of something versus a thousand of something might not be that much different. But it means a thousand of something is more economical. But if the market is only big enough for a hundred, then the cost per unit to get it into your market may shake out to be higher than you assume.
For example prices in Alaska and Hawaii are often higher for lots of things compared to the continental 48 U.S. states, because they're out of the way and relatively small populations. Those details matter and effect prices.
Supply and demand, economies of scale. These are going to impact prices too. I'm not saying I think it's a great system, but it's the reality.
Like I wouldn't cheer for higher prices or anything, but is it really criminal, or are there economic explanations that you're ignoring?
Maybe some Swedish retailers can tell you why the hardware costs so much more. It's not as if the manufacturers put the pricing stickers on products on Swedish shelves. But there are costs and the retailers need to make money too.
Many forget to factor that in. The VAT alone (25% in Sweden) adds $137 to the AMD recommended price.
That's always the same in Europe, we never pay MSRP for GPU's, and it's well known tech products are cheaper in US( without taxes).
I expect the 9070XT to be around 850-900 EUR, any higher then that and you could just get yourself a 7900XTX which costs around 1000EUR brand new.
I paid 1500 EUR for my 7900XTX back in 2022, and that was considered a good price considered to Nvidia's + 2000 EUR for a 4090 back then.
EDIT: looks like i'm right, i just checked one of our major local pc part retailers and the majority of 9070XT listings are hovering at around the 900EUR mark, 950EUR and higher for the OC models.
One thing that seems to be great though is that all the cards are in stock!
Ah yes, thanks for reminding me.
And U.S. prices don't include taxes. Most states have sales taxes, they're calculated at checkout, and Europeans are often flabberghasted by this backwardness. For example that $549 GPU would actually cost me $581.94 because of 6% sales tax.
I mean I know $581.94 is still a lot less than $723.75 but still a few bucks here and there to account for all the differences between markets starts to add up to real money too.
Heh can already imagine what kind of rubbish this will be when even 5070 is complete fail.
I would not get anything below 5070 Ti from Nvidia`s 5000 series and even that has rather large question mark because of the price. At least it will not be immediate fail like 5070 and hopefully not catch fire like 5090 and 5080.
So, is there something you recommened? As of right now, I have a intel arc A580 (Not B) that I got from a friend.
Chances are it will be the sane chip as the 5070, which, really should be called the 5060 and just accept the price joke, only with a couple less cu's.
They really should of renamed their stack, dropping the ti's, 5070 becomes 5069, 5070ti becomes 5070 5089 and 90 remain as is, no one complain about the 5070 perfirmance if it was baned the 5060, only the price lol, they 60 then becomes the 5050 and 50 they reintroduce the 40 level, woukd be easier to understand gir the average user and woukd make more sense not to have 2 sku's with similar names on the same chip.
Whatever fits your budget that comes with sixteen gigabytes worth of memory. That being said as paying too much is a real concern for you. Ask among your friends and acquaintances. Whenever a new card generation rolls around those willing to pay. Have old used cards that are looking for a new home.
Peer to peer doesn't require shipping, doesn't require you to pay taxes, and usually it comes at a hefty discount. As it saves the seller time, money, and angst. Not having to run an auction. Ship a package who knows where, or meet a complete stranger. Is usually well worth lowing the prices. Just tell your friends you need a sixteen gigabyte card. Someone will show up wanting to sell.
Blame the government for their import taxes(VAT)/tariffs.
Blame yourself for ignoring your local exchange rates, cost of living, minimum wages. Etc.
All of these things play a role in how much you pay for things vs how much someone in the USA pays for the same things.
Your lack of understanding doesn't mean you're being ripped off.
Or just buy older generation stuff where the profit margin is probably much lower than at launch.
I am not blaming myself for ignoring some geeky shii-ats when all I want to do is just play some stupid games.
Why are there so many negative people like you anyway? Just say "it's probably because of your local exchange, cost of- and all of that". You do that and people will probably like you more.